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Hi-Lo Low cost fun tonight.......
Tikay10
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A lot of Community regulars asked if we could have some Omaha Hi-Lo fun.
I'm starting PTP ("high only") Omaha cash tomorrow night, so tonight, I thought I'd do a sort of unofficial PTP just for Hi-Lo Omaha.
As I'm "not very good" (= rubbish) at playing several Tables at once AND replying to questions in the Chat Box, TommyD has agreed to help out tonight. What a top bloke he is.
So, I'll be onsite this evening, just playing Hi-Lo DYM's, &, possibly, some Hi-Lo Cash. It will ALL be at low levels, the minimum buy-ins possible, as the whole idea is for PLO8 newbies to get a feel for the game at low cost. For the DYM's, SNG's & cash, if we play any, TommyD & I will avoid each other, & try not to be in the same ones.
I also sent a note up to the Suits & asked them if they could schedule a few LOW COST Hi-Lo Tourneys for tonight, & they have agreed. As soon as they appear in the Lobby, I'll let you know.
Should be fun, & I hope a few of you join in, & we have a bit of cheap fun.
Comments
If you have ANY questions about PLO8 ("Omaha Hi-Lo") please post them on this thread.
You'll get plenty of good advice from those that are skilled at the game, failing which, Tommy or myself will reply.
Was great fun, I really enjoyed it. I played one Tourney & 4 or 5 DYM's yesterday, & have not had so much fun for ages.
See you tonight. Please keep off my table, you are too good.
A few quick tips, as & when I think of them. I hope others will Post their advice, too.
I noticed some players yesterday played almost EVERY hand.
In the short-term, this sometimes pays off, when the cards run kindly, but in the long term, you will eventually lose all your money if you play too many hands. BE SELECTIVE with your starting hand criteria.
Despite the rather odd current fashion of dissing nits, playing bad hands will always get you in trouble eventually, & there is no shame at all at sitting there quietly & waiting for the corrrect spots.
All imo, of course.
"Low only" hands.
This is quite hard to explain, but.......
We gets a LOT of nice "low" starting hands, but except when we bink really hard, we can ONLY ever win half (or third, or quarter, even one sixth) of the pot with Low hands.
There ARE good spots to call down with nut lows, if it is 4 way & the other three are on on High hands, for example, we make a nice profit when these coups come off, but this is very rare.
Try to imagine playing heads up Hi-Lo. If we went in with "low only" hands (A-2 etc) every hand, we would get HALF back quite a lot of the time - but eventually, we'd lose the lot. This is pure, 100%, logic - we cannot win at PLO8 by playing only Low hands, because we almost never get more than half of the pot.
"Scoops".
a "scoop" is when we win BOTH the Pots, the High, AND the Low.
Really, for the most part (not quite all though) we should ONLY play hands where we have a chance to scoop. These type of hands are VERY rare, so yes, we can mix it up a bit, but the Holy Grail of PLO8 is "scooping".
If you play a DYM & get ONE scoop, you'll be 99% sure to coast to the cash.
In a Tourney, if you got one or two scoops you'd almost certainly final.
In two DYM's yesterday, I had the good fortune/luck to get a scoop early on, & because "scoops" almost invariably mean both players are all-in, I doubled up each time. I pretty much "sat out until the money" after that.
For Don.
a "scoop" is when we do not "split" the Pot.
They occur most frequently when one player is going for the high, & the opponent is either DRAWING to the Low & misses, or his low gets counterfeited & so he misses.
Players almost always over-rate their Low possibilities.
Say, for example.......
Low man has A-2-High-High, with 4-7-High-High on the board already & High Man pots it, to drive him out, but he calls for the Low because he has so many cards to hit. And the turn or river comes.........an Ace or deuce. His Low is now as dead as Zed. (You need TWO qualifying low cards to work with THREE Community Cards).
And he was only calling to split the pot at best!
The Hi-Lo Tourneys tonight have been added to the Lobby.
Unfortunately, they are rather more expensive than I had anticipated, being......
1 @ £3.30 (10.25pm)
3 @ £5.50 (19.25, 20.25 & 21.25, with the middle one having a £100 Guarantee)
2 @ £11 (19.55 & 21.55).
There are also three nice small ones this afternoon, being.....
2 @ £1.10 (14.55 & 16.55)
1 @ £3.30, (16.25)
So, slight change of plan.
I will definitely play the three this afternoon, & hopefully some of you will be able to join in.
I will also play the £3.30 & £5.50 ones this evening.
I will try & fit in £2.25 Omaha Hilo's throughout the time I am on Site, when I don't have too many other Tables open.
I'm not sure I'll be able to play the two x £11 Hi Lo Tourneys this evening, but we'll see.
Roll up, roll up, loads-a-value in the 2.55 which is only £1.10
...and in the £3.30 @ 16.25?
...and the £1.10 jobbie @ 16.55?
During the afternoon, I'll also play as many £2.25 Omaha High Low DYM's as possible.
IF you can get it Heads-Up, you'd be pretty unlucky if the villain turned up with BOTH the nut hands!
So in that case, yes, I'd play that pretty strongly.