In Response to Re: Moyes. Man U and 2013/4 : Bet the PC regs can't guess who you support fwiw I agree Liverpool will be top 4 next season. Mainly because Arsenal r regressing, Spurs will lose Bale and Everton will obv decline too. Process of elimination means Lpool get 4th! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I am enjoying this regression, long may it continue.......
Given time I think Moyes will make the step up and be successful at Man Utd.
Will he be given it though? I think Man Utd could tolerate a trophyless season (community shield doesn't count) but will not a finish outside the top 4 and if that looks a distinct possibility come the end of Dec I fear for Moyesie.
Every time he has stepped up he has adjusted and done well - he works hard, studies the game and had been on Fergies radar for years (was asked to be no2 at Man U while still at PNE but turned it down). Fergies farewell speech at OT said it all really - he knew there would be an adjustment period and has faith in Moyes so wanted fans to be patient.
It's not just because he did well for PNE that I want him to do well (and I really don't like Man U) it is refreshing that a british manager has been given a chance at an established top 4 club.
Personally have to have Chelsea or Man City ftw - bigger and better squads, will spend in Jan if they need to, and following changes to management will improve over the season.
As a neutral I like what Arsenal are doing atm but fear their squad will not see them through. They can cope with injuries in creative midfield but nowhere else.
Honestly even though I started this thread and I am even more certain now that they will finish out of top four , I would not have any kind of bet for Moyes to go. He is a long term replacement and like Ferguson when he first went there, he will be given time.
Hope they have a bad day at the office tomorrow with Rooney out and Van Persie as well hopefully maybe we will finally win there for the first time since the early 70s.
In Response to Re: Moyes. Man U and 2013/4 : i have £20 on them to win it at 20/1, my hearts now ruling my head but i cant refuse this price. haha Posted by THEROCK573
definitely, you should have saved it and had them to win the league in the next couple of seasons. This year was always going to be transitionary.
By the way I am now going to make an even wilder prediction.
Wayne Rooney will leave United in the transfer window. He has been playing well and i think that is to put himself in the shop window rather than his love of United.
In Response to Re: Moyes. Man U and 2013/4 : definitely, you should have saved it and had them to win the league in the next couple of seasons. This year was always going to be transitionary. By the way I am now going to make an even wilder prediction. Wayne Rooney will leave United in the transfer window. He has been playing well and i think that is to put himself in the shop window rather than his love of United. Remember you heard it here first. Posted by vaigret
nah cant see that mate, if he was going ot be sold it would have been done in the summer, it would be suicide to sell him now when van persie is picking up injuries all the time. hes also cup tied for the champions league and you have to pay over the odds for a player in january. save your money bud
Ya left **** looking dodgy the rock THEROCK573 Posts: 1487 First: 15/10/2009 Last: 6/12/2013 TITLE STAYS IN MANCHESTER, ID BET MY LEFT **** ON IT. Posted by IDONKCALLU
In Response to Re: Moyes. Man U and 2013/4 : nah cant see that mate, if he was going ot be sold it would have been done in the summer, it would be suicide to sell him now when van persie is picking up injuries all the time. hes also cup tied for the champions league and you have to pay over the odds for a player in january. save your money bud Posted by THEROCK573
I dont think they will be able to stop it. Reason he didnt go in summer was no one would offer his true worth. That miffed him and he is now playing out of his skin.
Chelsea will offer close to 80000 in January and he will go.
In Response to Re: Moyes. Man U and 2013/4 : I dont think they will be able to stop it. Reason he didnt go in summer was no one would offer his true worth. That miffed him and he is now playing out of his skin. Chelsea will offer close to 80000 in January and he will go. Posted by vaigret
so you think man utd are just going to offload one of there best players to one of there rivals halfway threw a season when van persies getting injured all the time and they have no replacement for him, never going to happen in a million years unless they come up with a stupid bid like they did for torres but if they were going to do that they would have done it in the summer.
Hope they have a bad day at the office tomorrow with Rooney out and Van Persie as well hopefully maybe we will finally win there for the first time since the early 70s. Posted by 55013
In Response to Re: Moyes. Man U and 2013/4 : Flippin brilliant, feel a little bit sorry for Moyes due to the dreadful stick he is getting but really chuffed with the result. Posted by 55013
he always had a horrible job following fergie , especially with what he was left with bar the front two.
feel sorry for moyes myself cos i feel alot of the players just arnt playing for him like they would fergie but i hold him soley responsible for not sorting our midield out in the summer and that is whats costing us. the lack of creativity in midifled is awful and it comes to something when you are playing a centre half in phil jones over a man you have just paid stupidly over the odds for in fellaini.
In Response to Re: Moyes. Man U and 2013/4 : Sorry mate I would agree with you if it was to be Mourinho(sorry bazzer) but it isnt , he will go to Chelsea and you will see Chelsea and Man City fighting for top spot with Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool and Man U up their backsides. Moyes is a done deal. Players - De Gea still dodgy, Rafael-dodgy, Evra coming to end of career, Ferdinand crocked , Evans, Smalling not good enough if pressure on them , give you Vidic is good. Scholes and Giggs on way out, Carrick and Jones good but cleverley, Kagawa bit ligtweight. Rooney in a sulk, will Van Persie avoid injuries. The other thing you have got to ask yourself is how many of the Man U players will teams come for , only the outstanding ones I suggest. In other words the other clubs would have lots of clubs knocking on the door for a lot of their players. I might be way off mark but I just have this feeling that United will struggle 2013/4 and I will take your 500-1. £2 on please , thank you father V Posted by vaigret
that £1002.00 Im getting off you is getting nearer and sweeter Rock. LOL
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I'm sure after the first game of the season you would have +1'd my post. You were saying a lot worse than "we're regressing" at that point.
If fact I remember talking to you after that game and ME having to convince YOU that Arsenal would be alright.
City /> Chelsea straight forecast for me atm.
3,4,5? who knows!
Hopefully Arsenal and Liverpool from a neutral POV.
Spurs r dire to watch, and it'd be nice to see United struggle for once
Given time I think Moyes will make the step up and be successful at Man Utd.
Will he be given it though? I think Man Utd could tolerate a trophyless season (community shield doesn't count) but will not a finish outside the top 4 and if that looks a distinct possibility come the end of Dec I fear for Moyesie.
Every time he has stepped up he has adjusted and done well - he works hard, studies the game and had been on Fergies radar for years (was asked to be no2 at Man U while still at PNE but turned it down). Fergies farewell speech at OT said it all really - he knew there would be an adjustment period and has faith in Moyes so wanted fans to be patient.
It's not just because he did well for PNE that I want him to do well (and I really don't like Man U) it is refreshing that a british manager has been given a chance at an established top 4 club.
Personally have to have Chelsea or Man City ftw - bigger and better squads, will spend in Jan if they need to, and following changes to management will improve over the season.
As a neutral I like what Arsenal are doing atm but fear their squad will not see them through. They can cope with injuries in creative midfield but nowhere else.
And now out to 20-1 to win league.
Oh I do so love being right!!
Hopefully
By the way I am now going to make an even wilder prediction.
Wayne Rooney will leave United in the transfer window. He has been playing well and i think that is to put himself in the shop window rather than his love of United.
Remember you heard it here first.
Chelsea will offer close to 80000 in January and he will go.
The greatest of all time Denis Law made more than that 50 years ago
you got your wish
that £1002.00 Im getting off you is getting nearer and sweeter Rock. LOL