I logged on this afternoon intending to play some 50nl as usual. There are two tables going, both full with someone on the waiting list. I tried to start one but noone came to play me. It seems everyone has migrated to the capped tables... or elsewhere. I dunno. All i know is that there were two tables of 50nl and four of capped.
I just wanted to play some poker
So I look at 100nl.
Not one normal table running. 3 capped tables running and two mastercash... but not one normal. Beggers belief. Where has everyone gone??
Either way I talked myself into one tabling the 100nl MC table and making sure I didnt do anything silly.
Things didnt start well. I levelled myself into calling here. It just looked so much like a flush draw after the turn bet i felt I was ahead enough here to call. It was a draw... but just top pair to go with it.
gazza127
Small blind
£0.50
£0.50
£200.40
butt55y
Big blind
£1.00
£1.50
£197.43
Your hole cards
A
Q
launder
Fold
dogsonacid
Fold
badger94
Fold
AB0151
Raise
£2.00
£3.50
£337.08
gazza127
Raise
£6.50
£10.00
£193.90
butt55y
Call
£6.00
£16.00
£191.43
AB0151
Call
£5.00
£21.00
£332.08
Flop
2
6
K
gazza127
Bet
£11.00
£32.00
£182.90
butt55y
Call
£11.00
£43.00
£180.43
AB0151
Call
£11.00
£54.00
£321.08
Turn
3
gazza127
Check
butt55y
Bet
£14.00
£68.00
£166.43
AB0151
Fold
gazza127
Call
£14.00
£82.00
£168.90
River
6
gazza127
Check
butt55y
Bet
£41.00
£123.00
£125.43
gazza127
Call
£41.00
£164.00
£127.90
butt55y
Show
Q
K
gazza127
Muck
A
Q
butt55y
Win
Two Pairs, Kings and 6s
£162.20
£287.63
Probably lolbad... thoughts would be nice though.
Either way I managed to get my money back (and a bit more) very soon after.
butt55y
Small blind
£0.50
£0.50
£287.13
launder
Big blind
£1.00
£1.50
£138.01
Your hole cards
7
7
dogsonacid
Fold
badger94
Fold
AB0151
Raise
£4.00
£5.50
£317.08
gazza127
Call
£4.00
£9.50
£123.90
butt55y
Fold
launder
Fold
Flop
7
2
J
AB0151
Bet
£4.75
£14.25
£312.33
gazza127
Call
£4.75
£19.00
£119.15
Turn
K
AB0151
Bet
£9.50
£28.50
£302.83
gazza127
Raise
£31.00
£59.50
£88.15
AB0151
Call
£21.50
£81.00
£281.33
River
A
AB0151
All-in
£281.33
£362.33
£0.00
gazza127
All-in
£88.15
£450.48
£0.00
AB0151
Unmatched bet
£193.18
£257.30
£193.18
AB0151
Show
K
A
gazza127
Show
7
7
gazza127
Win
Three 7s
£255.50
£255.50
Then however... after my A10 (top top) gets runner runnered by a flush... and then my AA (top set) gets runner runnered by a Q6 flush I was not feeling too happy.
So why do I feel bad? Well... you see, when things arent going your way you get more speculative. You dont want to show weakness. You want to prove to those on your table that a few hits to your stack isnt going to deter you from floating and making moves in the right spots. I will not suddenly try and nut peddle. Its not in my nature. I simply cant do it.
So when this hand rocks around I feel like I can happily call in position with my 66. A lot of the time I think I am good against openers range... and a good % of the time I can take it off him down the streets depending on what the action is.
Then 3rd guy min raises and the other guy calls. OK... im crushed. Its unlikely they both have draws and its hugely unlikely I can rep something strong enough to take BOTH of them out the hand. But (and this is why i feel bad) I didnt want to fold for such a small amount basically telling Sikas I was floating with rubbish... so I called just so I could fold the turn with dignity and kablamo!
still plent of play left and i usually wouldnt get it in this light even heads up but i was pretty sure i had the best hand when you 4 bet shoved, in no u have game and i new you were capable of shoving worse so take it as a complement that you got called.
Not going to lie Rock... I was mega suprised you called it off with A7o. So many hands I do this with crush your range. Meh... I suppose you cant win them all. WP anyway. I'll just have to win it next week
Yes I am dissapointed about last nights near miss... but it has to be looked at from all perspectives.
Last nights main started well. Infact I was chip leader from about 40mins in... and stayed there or there abouts until right around the bubble.
Then my 100k stack to a tumble as I ran JJ into KK.... had to call off a flip with A10 v a shorty and ran into quad 2s with toppair + flush draw.
Before I knew it... with about 20 odd left (in the money) I had 4bb and looked destined to go out very quickly. But a quick spin which involved picking up a few uncontested pots and a won flip or two, I was back into the centre of pack with about 10 left.
Having Mattbates on my table for the last couple of tables was fun as ever. Boy doesnt that kid run good? ;P
Either way I managed to FT alongside a number of decent players and worked myself back into first place. After a bit of too-ing and fro-ing I had knocked Matt out in 3rd and was HU against Rock. He had the chip lead by about 25k i believe.
Then the KJ hand happened and all was over! Pretty meh finish. There was so much play left and I think I didnt do myself justice just by taking the huge gamble I did.
Side note... deep run in mini, but it wasnt to be when I ran KQ into A10 in the last 35ish players. I had a hand earlier on where I opened AKs UTG and got 3 bet on the button. Then what? Oh... the download crashes! Oh what could have been eh?
If you don't expect some light calls I don't get why you shoved. Its really deep so we can just peel IP with a very tasty hand HU. If he's never calling light then we're just turning a reallllly strong hand HU into a pure bluff.
Wp though. Ivan was almost right about you losing then going and winning a ME lol. Pokerz innit
Thanks JD. Not going to lie Rock... I was mega suprised you called it off with A7o. So many hands I do this with crush your range. Meh... I suppose you cant win them all. WP anyway. I'll just have to win it next week Posted by gazza127
the shove just didnt look strong to me, i 3 -bet a fair bit heads up as did you so i just felt if i was in ur spot and i was strong i would be looking to induce by clicking it back or making it 2.5x or something cos we were still fairly deep. ( maybe i watch to many decues cracked videos :-) ) wp anyway.
It is possible that there are lots of hands in therocks perceived 3b/fold range that have lots of equity against us, or that are a slight favourite.
So the shove is designed to fold out these hands, which is good for us.
If we can fold out small pairs, Ax, it's good, even TJs, 89s etc, it isn't a bad thing to fold out 40% equity. We're winning all the time we're doing that.
KJs isn't strong enough to 4b/call for value with, and it's too strong to waste by 4b/folding small.
Options are to flat (I like this option, and it's standard in most cases with or without reads/dynamic), or to shove, and get folds tonnes, and have decent equity if called.
We got it in first with 45% and made our opponent make a good read/call to realise his equity, it's not the end of the World. Just run better nxt time.
Ok we were 'fortunate' he had A7 and we were in decent shape, but stove a call off range, then add in all the times we get folds, and it'll all add up to an ok play imo, wth the reads we apparently have.....
Got onto my laptop at half 7. I proceed to register for main and mini getting ready for some BH action.
Then I fall asleep.
I wake near enough 9 o clock to see half my stack gone in main. Confused where I am and whats going on I go bust the very first hand I play.
Mini wasnt a whole lot better either. WP Gazza.
So I grab a coffee and a bowl of cereal and register for one all in sat to the 9pm (just before 9). I come second to collect £30... decide to put the rest forward and play it.
Came 6th in the end for a profit of roughly £120 or something of the sort.
Exit hand was a bit messy. Might post it on clinic tomorrow if i remember/can be bothered.
Two winning nights in a row? If only UKPC could be every week...
Well last couple of days have been pretty brutal on cash (including today).
However one positive today, despite running AK into AA in a mega pot in main (and not getting there), was binking the £22 deepstack for £375.
Usually I don't like only having 3 paid and urge the field to hit 30 runners so I have a better chance to cash, but its nice to go on and win it and pick up 50% of the prizepool which almost never happens in tournaments.
I think thats the first time ive won the deepstack. One to cross off the list. I usually build up a nice stack in it and then make some bizarre move and throw it away. So extra nice to get the win.
Loses from cash cancelled out today. Less than 1k points to hit priority too. Cant be bothered to play anymore tonight though. A few episodes of House of Cards are what I need now .
Late at nights, before I go to bed, I frequently rail the biggest cash games going on the site. Not to make notes or anything, but just to see some crazy pots go down. I often see pots of over £2k and wonder how much money these guys must have in their roll to be playing these silly stakes.
Have they worked their way up to this level, or are they just 'life-rolled'? I'd imagine its a bit of both in most instances. The players at those levels are no slouches. I mean how often do you see someone limp/call at 1000nl? These players know what they are doing.
Sometimes whilst watching these pots I have the urge to sit down. After all, I get dealt two cards same as them right? I have dreams sometimes about me sitting at such stakes and going on a heater... But dreams are dreams. I know these players know their stuff. I'd like to think I know my stuff too, and would hope that if I did sit down I wouldn't instantly be labelled 'table fish'. Issues would however start to arise due to the quantity of money involved. I wouldnt make moves in the right places, value bet as thin or barrel that river with air as the money at that level matters too much to me. I couldnt help but feel that if I sat and lost £1k in a single pot on poker, I'd need to take a good hard look at myself in the mirror and ask what im doing to myself.
Nope... I wont be sitting at 1000nl anytime soon. Despite my poor BRM, even I cant stretch to those levels without feeling sick in my stomach. I'd like to think one day I would be up at those levels, but it seems unlikely. I'd have to bink a big tournament (like a UKPC) to even think about joining those levels. And even then... despite me thinking I could handle myself at those levels, in reality I'd probably lose my entire roll. Maybe its that old cliche about meeting your childhood hero. Once you meet them, the magic can be ruined. Perhaps 1000nl is that hero that should be admired from afar... cause up close and personal heros rarely are as good as you've imagined them to be.
That being said, I did find myself railing the biggest cash game last night... which was suprisingly only at 200nl. After watching for about 20 minutes I had noticed that the standard was pretty poor for 200nl. There was limp/calling and the players were generally being quite passive.
I look at my roll. Am I rolled for this? No. Not by nearly anyones standards. Hmmmm. I cant sleep. Theres no other games running. I may aswell sit down right? Worse case scenario I lose 1BI... stand up and am £200 worse off. If '2 year-ago' me knew that I was sitting down at 200nl tables, he'd slap me. I hadnt played any poker online at all two years ago... and I definitely didnt have £200 lying around then available for gambling.
But, heres the thing about me... I like taking risks. No risk, no reward.
After about half an hour I had worked myself up to circa £400 having barely seen a showdown. I had decided to treat the 1 BI for this level as dead money and play exactly how I would do at 50nl. It was working. Suprisingly there were people on my table who looked like they were playing with scared money.
Some of you will now be thinking that this is a classic case of bum-hunting. I can see that view point, but sitting on a table you think you wont get annihilated at, is slightly different to sitting at one you are confident you can crush. And to those who think that might like know I played on the same table as Launder, Style and Zing for most of the evening... and did have my clashes even when the maybe lesser players left.
My head was telling me to stand when I hit £400. But one of my main irritants is people who hit and run. Now I hadnt done that of course as it wasn't a big cooler that got me that money, but I would have felt dirty standing. I always give people the opportunity to get their money back - something I usually regret. Something I did regret.
My Aces get busted by the guy running golden and i'm back to square one. Meh. At least my session didnt start like that... things could have been worse. Stand im thinking. Just stand. You are about £15 down, but have poker points galore. It was fun, but its 4am and its time to go to bed.
I'm stubborn.
Nope. I can beat this table if given time and my hands decide to hold. I'd atleast like to end the table in a little profit.
Then I hit the perfect spot, against the right player too. This player was on my right and was getting a little sick of me as I rarely gave a cheap flop/spare card. They were never folding Aces here:
XX
Small blind
£1.00
£1.00
£288.35
gazza127
Big blind
£2.00
£3.00
£227.20
Your hole cards
6
6
launder
Fold
style2737
Fold
subsnw
Fold
XX
Raise
£5.00
£8.00
£283.35
gazza127
Call
£4.00
£12.00
£223.20
Flop
6
2
8
XX
Bet
£9.00
£21.00
£274.35
gazza127
Raise
£30.00
£51.00
£193.20
XX
Raise
£93.00
£144.00
£181.35
gazza127
All-in
£193.20
£337.20
£0.00
XX
All-in
£181.35
£518.55
£0.00
XX
Unmatched bet
£60.15
£458.40
£60.15
XX
Show
A
A
gazza127
Show
6
6
Turn
4
River
K
gazza127
Win
Three 6s
£456.60
£456.60
Soon after I won the rest of his stack AQ />KJ on a AJx board and I was up circa £270 for the night. He left and I was left 4 handed with Style, Launder and a guy I'd never heard of or played against in subsnw.
I stayed for another 20 minutes or so, but by that time it was 4:30am and I had to be up at 7:30am for work. I left after about an hour and a half £260ish up. Yes, down to a very nice spot busting Aces. But I think back at the hand where my Aces were cracked and like to think things evened themselves out by the end of the session.
So yeah, not sure why the long post to be honest. Could have just said that I took a shot at 200nl last night and came through smiling.
Although by the fluttering in my stomach when all my money went into the middle with the set and that spade came on the turn, I doubt I'll be returning any time soon.
I watched you play from around the time you raise/folded the turn in a big pot. Assume that was the hand you had aces?
Was hoping you weren't in a hole at that stage so pleased to read that you were doing fine to that point.
Grimaced when the spade came on the turn in the hand with the set. Glad you held.
Good decision to leave the table I think. No point carrying on when 4 handed and tired against that line up.
It's funny how we feel about big losses. I'm just the same. By now we should both probably be a bit more level headed about it.
When we have good winning days it's a nice feeling, no more. When we have a big losing day the feeling is horrible.
I've had some big nights in the casino where I've won a £1000+ and been like "yeah, that was a decent night" I've also had some awful nights where I've lost big,never more than a £1000 though and felt sick to the stomach and done the "that's it, I'm never playing again, pokers shxt" stuff.
I admire/don't believe the guys who just say that it doesn't affect them in the slightest. All one long game sort of thing. I guess they would argue that it only hurts because I'm playing above my bankroll. I'd be surprised if many are sitting at 1/2 in my casino who are properly rolled for it. Personally, I think if the games good, then there's nothing wrong with it.
Yeah the pot I had AA was when I squeezed from BB. Flop came K high. Q turn and had to fold to shove as I couldnt see him doing it with anything worse.
Im glad I held too! You know you are playing slightly outside your roll when you get the jitters when all the money goes in. Certainly provided quite the sweat, but as you say I wasnt in a hole so it wouldnt have been the end of the world if he runner runnered... although it would have sucked.
I very rarely play these levels. Something possessed me last night to play. The table just looked passive and I thought if I picked my spots I could maybe make some money. I don't think thats bumhunting... maybe it is? I dunno. I was playing with some of the best cash players on the site for a good while so I dont see it that way personally.
I left as I was completely shattered. Not that it got down to 4 handed... although I do much prefer playing 6 max - you can play less hands and pick your spots better. Im certainly feeling the effects today of that late night!
Its funny the reactions we have to winning/losing. I know personally I probably take the beats a bit too hard, and gloss over the ones I bestow on others. Poker after all is a long game and emotion is probably best left on the sidelines.
After all, tilt and positive tilt are both bad things with potential horrible consequences.
There was an interesting conversation about being positive in Tuesday nights show. I cant remember which professional they were talking about, but one had unequivocally stated that having a positive mental attitude throughout downswings or bad beats was one of the reasons he was the player he was, and why he was so profitable long term.
I did notice that you played less hands than normal. In the 30 mins or so I watched, you did pass preflop at least twice Posted by Jac35
It did kinda hit me after I lost that big pot with Aces what kind of money I was playing with... so i might have tightened up ever so slightly after that.
Comments
Everyones entilted to an opinion.
No offence taken intended or not
(straight flushes are really nice)
I logged on this afternoon intending to play some 50nl as usual. There are two tables going, both full with someone on the waiting list. I tried to start one but noone came to play me. It seems everyone has migrated to the capped tables... or elsewhere. I dunno. All i know is that there were two tables of 50nl and four of capped.
I just wanted to play some poker
So I look at 100nl.
Not one normal table running. 3 capped tables running and two mastercash... but not one normal. Beggers belief. Where has everyone gone??
Either way I talked myself into one tabling the 100nl MC table and making sure I didnt do anything silly.
Things didnt start well. I levelled myself into calling here. It just looked so much like a flush draw after the turn bet i felt I was ahead enough here to call. It was a draw... but just top pair to go with it.
Either way I managed to get my money back (and a bit more) very soon after.
So why do I feel bad? Well... you see, when things arent going your way you get more speculative. You dont want to show weakness. You want to prove to those on your table that a few hits to your stack isnt going to deter you from floating and making moves in the right spots. I will not suddenly try and nut peddle. Its not in my nature. I simply cant do it.
So when this hand rocks around I feel like I can happily call in position with my 66. A lot of the time I think I am good against openers range... and a good % of the time I can take it off him down the streets depending on what the action is.
Then 3rd guy min raises and the other guy calls. OK... im crushed. Its unlikely they both have draws and its hugely unlikely I can rep something strong enough to take BOTH of them out the hand. But (and this is why i feel bad) I didnt want to fold for such a small amount basically telling Sikas I was floating with rubbish... so I called just so I could fold the turn with dignity and kablamo!
Car crash.
Apologies sir. I am indeed a massive fish.
Just came 2nd in main. Should be happy... and im sure I will be tomorrow, but cant help but feel a bit gutted at the minute.
Final hand was this:
Might do a proper update tomorrow but just left a bit mift after that.
So the shove is designed to fold out these hands, which is good for us.
If we can fold out small pairs, Ax, it's good, even TJs, 89s etc, it isn't a bad thing to fold out 40% equity. We're winning all the time we're doing that.
KJs isn't strong enough to 4b/call for value with, and it's too strong to waste by 4b/folding small.
Options are to flat (I like this option, and it's standard in most cases with or without reads/dynamic), or to shove, and get folds tonnes, and have decent equity if called.
We got it in first with 45% and made our opponent make a good read/call to realise his equity, it's not the end of the World. Just run better nxt time.
Ok we were 'fortunate' he had A7 and we were in decent shape, but stove a call off range, then add in all the times we get folds, and it'll all add up to an ok play imo, wth the reads we apparently have.....
Got onto my laptop at half 7. I proceed to register for main and mini getting ready for some BH action.
Then I fall asleep.
I wake near enough 9 o clock to see half my stack gone in main. Confused where I am and whats going on I go bust the very first hand I play.
Mini wasnt a whole lot better either. WP Gazza.
So I grab a coffee and a bowl of cereal and register for one all in sat to the 9pm (just before 9). I come second to collect £30... decide to put the rest forward and play it.
Came 6th in the end for a profit of roughly £120 or something of the sort.
Exit hand was a bit messy. Might post it on clinic tomorrow if i remember/can be bothered.
Two winning nights in a row? If only UKPC could be every week...
Eurgh.
However one positive today, despite running AK into AA in a mega pot in main (and not getting there), was binking the £22 deepstack for £375.
Usually I don't like only having 3 paid and urge the field to hit 30 runners so I have a better chance to cash, but its nice to go on and win it and pick up 50% of the prizepool which almost never happens in tournaments.
I think thats the first time ive won the deepstack. One to cross off the list. I usually build up a nice stack in it and then make some bizarre move and throw it away. So extra nice to get the win.
Loses from cash cancelled out today. Less than 1k points to hit priority too. Cant be bothered to play anymore tonight though. A few episodes of House of Cards are what I need now
Blew main.
Was going really well in mini.
Really blew mini.
Salvaged money on cash.
Blew cash.
Somehow still end the night in profit.
Tomorrows task - Make priority. 140 points to go.
Have they worked their way up to this level, or are they just 'life-rolled'? I'd imagine its a bit of both in most instances. The players at those levels are no slouches. I mean how often do you see someone limp/call at 1000nl? These players know what they are doing.
Sometimes whilst watching these pots I have the urge to sit down. After all, I get dealt two cards same as them right? I have dreams sometimes about me sitting at such stakes and going on a heater... But dreams are dreams. I know these players know their stuff. I'd like to think I know my stuff too, and would hope that if I did sit down I wouldn't instantly be labelled 'table fish'. Issues would however start to arise due to the quantity of money involved. I wouldnt make moves in the right places, value bet as thin or barrel that river with air as the money at that level matters too much to me. I couldnt help but feel that if I sat and lost £1k in a single pot on poker, I'd need to take a good hard look at myself in the mirror and ask what im doing to myself.
Nope... I wont be sitting at 1000nl anytime soon. Despite my poor BRM, even I cant stretch to those levels without feeling sick in my stomach. I'd like to think one day I would be up at those levels, but it seems unlikely. I'd have to bink a big tournament (like a UKPC) to even think about joining those levels. And even then... despite me thinking I could handle myself at those levels, in reality I'd probably lose my entire roll. Maybe its that old cliche about meeting your childhood hero. Once you meet them, the magic can be ruined. Perhaps 1000nl is that hero that should be admired from afar... cause up close and personal heros rarely are as good as you've imagined them to be.
That being said, I did find myself railing the biggest cash game last night... which was suprisingly only at 200nl. After watching for about 20 minutes I had noticed that the standard was pretty poor for 200nl. There was limp/calling and the players were generally being quite passive.
I look at my roll. Am I rolled for this? No. Not by nearly anyones standards. Hmmmm. I cant sleep. Theres no other games running. I may aswell sit down right? Worse case scenario I lose 1BI... stand up and am £200 worse off. If '2 year-ago' me knew that I was sitting down at 200nl tables, he'd slap me. I hadnt played any poker online at all two years ago... and I definitely didnt have £200 lying around then available for gambling.
But, heres the thing about me... I like taking risks. No risk, no reward.
After about half an hour I had worked myself up to circa £400 having barely seen a showdown. I had decided to treat the 1 BI for this level as dead money and play exactly how I would do at 50nl. It was working. Suprisingly there were people on my table who looked like they were playing with scared money.
Some of you will now be thinking that this is a classic case of bum-hunting. I can see that view point, but sitting on a table you think you wont get annihilated at, is slightly different to sitting at one you are confident you can crush. And to those who think that might like know I played on the same table as Launder, Style and Zing for most of the evening... and did have my clashes even when the maybe lesser players left.
My head was telling me to stand when I hit £400. But one of my main irritants is people who hit and run. Now I hadnt done that of course as it wasn't a big cooler that got me that money, but I would have felt dirty standing. I always give people the opportunity to get their money back - something I usually regret. Something I did regret.
My Aces get busted by the guy running golden and i'm back to square one. Meh. At least my session didnt start like that... things could have been worse. Stand im thinking. Just stand. You are about £15 down, but have poker points galore. It was fun, but its 4am and its time to go to bed.
I'm stubborn.
Nope. I can beat this table if given time and my hands decide to hold. I'd atleast like to end the table in a little profit.
Then I hit the perfect spot, against the right player too. This player was on my right and was getting a little sick of me as I rarely gave a cheap flop/spare card. They were never folding Aces here:
I stayed for another 20 minutes or so, but by that time it was 4:30am and I had to be up at 7:30am for work. I left after about an hour and a half £260ish up. Yes, down to a very nice spot busting Aces. But I think back at the hand where my Aces were cracked and like to think things evened themselves out by the end of the session.
So yeah, not sure why the long post to be honest. Could have just said that I took a shot at 200nl last night and came through smiling.
Although by the fluttering in my stomach when all my money went into the middle with the set and that spade came on the turn, I doubt I'll be returning any time soon.
1000nl is a long way off.