Your real problem is trying to play 5p/10p when, to be brutally honest, you're not ready for it. You need a spell at 2p/4p to better learn the strengths and weaknesses within your game before trying it at the higher level.
Sorry to have to say this, but as far as I can see from this diary it is true.
Your real problem is trying to play 5p/10p when, to be brutally honest, you're not ready for it. You need a spell at 2p/4p to better learn the strengths and weaknesses within your game before trying it at the higher level. Sorry to have to say this, but as far as I can see from this diary it is true. Posted by FCHD
Wow really? Thanks for honesty bit surprised but okay if that's what u see. There's no way I could get excited for 4nl rather not play tbh lol
no need to play 4nl it ain`t much different to 10nl,just the regs at 10nl are a little better and play a solid abc tag style.
also you are still learning to get better at cash and while you have been learning a lot over the last couple months which I know you have you are still showing profit on both sites,yeah may not be to your expectations but still profit in a game you enjoy playing m8.
no need to play 4nl it ain`t much different to 10nl,just the regs at 10nl are a little better and play a solid abc tag style. also you are still learning to get better at cash and while you have been learning a lot over the last couple months which I know you have you are still showing profit on both sites,yeah may not be to your expectations but still profit in a game you enjoy playing m8. also you still got deucescracked? Posted by liamboi11
Yeah profit on both sites so could be worse, that's why I don't think I'm so bad I need to drop down, I'm not a losing player I'm just not winning as much as I would like.
Things havnt improved read a thread by ivanovic ? I think his name was, and it reminded me of the excitement of poker, playing and moving up levels and earning good money and it being exciting.....reminded me that's what I want to do.
Played well generally, only 4 tables. Thought more about decisions, played a tighter more disciplined game and went back to writing my thought on paper when I feel like im tilting.
Unforunatly I lost all my profits in the last 10mins and ended up a few £ down so basically break even....disappointing. Need to keep trying to fit long grinds in somewhere in my week and try and turn things around. Got 5 ddays to think about what im going to do after this month pokerwise, still feeling too take all money out and have a break.
Might start posting in the poker clinic, but don't like the thought of players who don't know what there doing giving me wrong advice, could confuse me. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
1 )
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
Jashko
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£9.95
ethan2002
Big blind
£0.10
£0.15
£12.64
Your hole cards
A
Q
gmoney21
Call
£0.10
£0.25
£14.71
ray01
Fold
robbie1992
Raise
£0.40
£0.65
£19.54
Jashko
Fold
ethan2002
Fold
gmoney21
Call
£0.30
£0.95
£14.41
Flop
2
Q
10
gmoney21
Check
robbie1992
Bet
£0.50
£1.45
£19.04
gmoney21
Call
£0.50
£1.95
£13.91
Turn
10
gmoney21
Check
robbie1992
Bet
£1.20
£3.15
£17.84
gmoney21
Raise
£5.55
£8.70
£8.36
robbie1992
Call
£4.35
£13.05
£13.49
River
J
gmoney21
Check
robbie1992
All-in
£13.49
£26.54
£0.00
gmoney21
All-in
£8.36
£34.90
£0.00
robbie1992
Unmatched bet
£5.13
£29.77
£5.13
gmoney21
Show
8
10
robbie1992
Show
A
Q
gmoney21
Win
Three 10s
£28.37
£28.37
I thought he looked weak pre, and the raise on the turn on a dry board is going to be air a lot. The shove for value on the river is soooooooo bad, argh! so annoying, I was only really getting value for KQ......and if I thought he was bluffing on the turn then why am I shoving for value on the river? he wont call with a bluff
2)
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
c4nny
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£42.05
robbie1992
Big blind
£0.10
£0.15
£26.03
Your hole cards
A
Q
ACEGOONER
Raise
£0.30
£0.45
£36.89
craigcu12
Call
£0.30
£0.75
£19.55
DoyleBrun
Fold
c4nny
Call
£0.25
£1.00
£41.80
robbie1992
Raise
£1.20
£2.20
£24.83
ACEGOONER
Fold
craigcu12
Call
£1.00
£3.20
£18.55
c4nny
Fold
Flop
2
5
K
robbie1992
Bet
£1.70
£4.90
£23.13
craigcu12
Call
£1.70
£6.60
£16.85
Turn
5
robbie1992
Bet
£4.20
£10.80
£18.93
craigcu12
Call
£4.20
£15.00
£12.65
River
10
robbie1992
Check
craigcu12
Bet
£5.00
£20.00
£7.65
robbie1992
Fold
craigcu12
Muck
craigcu12
Win
£13.87
£21.52
craigcu12
Return
£5.00
£1.13
£26.52
Craig a lot of people im sure have played against. imo he Is a tight solid player who will be mostly straightforward,
My thinking for the hand is, his call is odd pre and I expect a pocket pair or AQ/ KQ/ AJ s sorta hand.
I cb as he will fold a lot of the pocket pairs, the turn bet is im almost certain that he now has to have a premium hand on the turn otherwise he will be good enough to fold.
My reads tell me if he hasn't folded by now he has the goods, did I miss a good triple barrel spot on the river or should I have not even of bet the turn. I feel like I now allow him to bluff with his missed FD....but that's all tbh he cant bluff with much else cause I don't think he would get to the river with much else, his a player I think is solid and he doesn't make many mistakes.
He told me in chat he had 22, but I find it hard to believe he set mines with 22, in that spot?
I see hand 1 a bit differently to you Robbie. When he c/r that 10 on the turn, he has a 10 or 22. Is he really raising you over £4, leaving just over £8 behind, on the turn, with air? Easy check on the river, we don't need to bluff, and it's nigh on impossible to get worse to call, especially after that action.
From my experience at that level, people generally have what their betting suggests. There could be a table dynamic, or maybe he has been getting very aggro/stacking off light, in which case the hand would make more sense. In a vacuum though, it's a fold on the turn however nitty this may feel.
Felt really good about poker this morning after wanting to stop playing at the end of the month. I went on 2+2 forum and it just showed me how many people love the game and can be good and win money at it . I also watched some videos and its wanted me to get back to playing properly.
The same problems occur, I have boredom and tilt problems that will restrict how good I will be, until I can control them its always going to be hard so that the first step, I need to solve them.
If I can just get help from other players and keep looking at things to improve my game I can beat 10nl, its only 10 nl so it should be one of the easier levels to beat. Even considering buying a beating micro stakes book.
Played today played good aggressive poker and even had a bad beat and come out winning 2.3 buy ins. My nut straight was beat when the money went in on the turn and the river paired the board.
Havnt played on 888, the rakeback is rubbish and I wanna earn enough to pay for my duecescracked on its own.
Felt really good about poker this morning after wanting to stop playing at the end of the month. I went on 2+2 forum and it just showed me how many people love the game and can be good and win money at it . I also watched some videos and its wanted me to get back to playing properly.
The same problems occur, I have boredom and tilt problems that will restrict how good I will be, until I can control them its always going to be hard so that the first step, I need to solve them.
If I can just get help from other players and keep looking at things to improve my game I can beat 10nl, its only 10 nl so it should be one of the easier levels to beat. Even considering buying a beating micro stakes book.
Played today played good aggressive poker and even had a bad beat and come out winning 2.3 buy ins. My nut straight was beat when the money went in on the turn and the river paired the board.
Havnt played on 888, the rakeback is rubbish and I wanna earn enough to pay for my duecescracked on its own.
Sky: £339,60
888: $526
Also on the football front im really disappointed to lose bale, Im a massive fan of his, even have a big signed picture of him in my living room. Think his been really disrespectful towards us and I think he was abit unfair with the stuff he was apparently saying at the end. I still wish him all the best at real but not sure if he will be a successs or not.
Signed lamella who looks good and £30m break our transfer record for the 3rd time this summer, so im happy with our business and overall we have a stronger team. I honestly fully believe we have one of the best squads in the prem. Surely were going to finish above the sc um this year, a win on sunday will also be lovely !!!
Another circle. make down to where I was yesterday. mental game and skill game was rubbish today, trying to do more of what I see and no is tough to play against but I just felt so lost in hands today, felt uncomfortable with the aggression I was giving. Maybe it would of made more sense if I hit stuff as my session was dead today, maybe it would of made more sense as I might of got paided off more. Struggled for focus again. Its really dull sometimes if your not active on your tables and your just sitting there, even music didn't help, only played about 90 mins.
My play deserved to lose, but the hands I lost with didn't deserved to lose lol
Cant believe how confussed I am with poker, im only playing 10nl!?! could understand if I just play poker an hour a week but I mostly play/revise/ watch poker everyday. Did everyone playing 20/30/50/100nl feel like this when they played 10nl ? and how do u get the "winning " thought and plays in your head? I cant watch anymore videos, maybe I should just post hands, but even then you don't get a definite answer, just a discussion, so next time that situation comes up I still wont no what to do.
My 3 main losing hands from today, if I would of done the play most the people have done, im sure id be getting told on here why it is not +ev long term. Yet I now have to make up for all there mistakes? so the money lost here I now have to earn back even though I didn't do a lot wrong, think that's whats tilting .
Update Another circle. make down to where I was yesterday. mental game and skill game was rubbish today, trying to do more of what I see and no is tough to play against but I just felt so lost in hands today, felt uncomfortable with the aggression I was giving. Maybe it would of made more sense if I hit stuff as my session was dead today, maybe it would of made more sense as I might of got paided off more. Struggled for focus again. Its really dull sometimes if your not active on your tables and your just sitting there, even music didn't help, only played about 90 mins. My play deserved to lose, but the hands I lost with didn't deserved to lose lol Cant believe how confussed I am with poker, im only playing 10nl!?! could understand if I just play poker an hour a week but I mostly play/revise/ watch poker everyday. Did everyone playing 20/30/50/100nl feel like this when they played 10nl ? and how do u get the "winning " thought and plays in your head? I cant watch anymore videos, maybe I should just post hands, but even then you don't get a definite answer, just a discussion, so next time that situation comes up I still wont no what to do. sky: £318 888:$526 Posted by robbie1992
I'm not surprised poker does your nut in if this is the case........poker overkill!!!. There is such a thing as trying too hard, chill out, take up another hobby that takes up some of your time. If all you have is poker,poker,poker whirling around your head all day then it can't be good for you!!
In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary. : I'm not surprised poker does your nut in if this is the case........poker overkill!!!. There is such a thing as trying too hard, chill out, take up another hobby that takes up some of your time. If all you have is poker,poker,poker whirling around your head all day then it can't be good for you!! Posted by waller02
No iv got other stuff, but because I couldn't do anything for along time poker was mainly what I done. I was more determined then anything to be good at poker, but its not happening and I cant make it happen unless I understand where I need to fix it
I won 4.4 buy ins on 888, played while watching sky sports news, it kept me more interested which helped. Was 3 more buy ins up but got 2 bad beats usual stuff nothing too bad but ill take a winning session seeing as my poker has fallen apart in recent weeks.
I then played sky and had tv on again, crushed one table was up to £45 and a few other tables I was up, even one stacks heads up with quads which was good.
Lost my 2 biggest pots in bluffs, can I have some advice from readers with bluffs and barrels and board textures etc, as I think its been good for my game as it gets me paid more and im harder to play against, but did I do anything wrong in the hands I lost which I will post below, thanks.
Update Just pick any day and read it , its just the same for today. still s * *t at poker still tilting still slightly losing still not improving BR still moaning Sky: £311 Posted by robbie1992
Robbie,
99% of losing players blame either the site, or variance or the other players calling any 2 cards.
Your comment above is very good in a way. You know its your game that needs work - this is most of the battle won!
In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary. : Robbie, 99% of losing players blame either the site, or variance or the other players calling any 2 cards. Your comment above is very good in a way. You know its your game that needs work - this is most of the battle won! Posted by calcalfold
Yeah it's none of the above I'm usually honest with myself, it's mostly tilt. I havnt run any worse or better then the next person so it's not variance and enough people moan about sky on the forum so I won't so that either lol
Well imo, the first hand would take a bit longer to discuss. Im on a session right now so will just look at hand 2.
First thing to note is that I am TAG/NIT, so my advice might not really be optimal for you as I see you more LAG. Not that saying that is bad or good, but purely as an observation and that must be kept in mind when reading my thoughts.
Hand 2. imho.
Raise pre fine obv.
For me, I just fold the flop.
Flop for Robbie. If you want to be getting involved when you totally miss I would say to raise the flop. You arent really going to get a good card on the turn to bluff at very often as there are no flush draws and only the ace as an over card. If they are donking with air or not much (reads?) you can get them to fold, if they dont you can give up on the turn most of the time.
As played you just have to fold the turn, simple fact is they have something and we have nothing so we just let this one go.
Villain made a decent check call on the river as they probably realise the card was a blank unless you had 78.
I've lost touch a bit with this thread but from the recent posts it sounds like things aint going too well. I used to have massive tilt problems and it really is a killer cos you can be a really good player when you're playing well but if you tilt badly/often it can just completely destroy any progress you make when playing well.
I replied to your PM btw.
Hand 1 - Sometimes I might just fold pre but I don't mind isolating them either, if so just stick to the 3x + 1 per limper so you should only make it 50p pre imo. Just fold the flop, obviously villian is passive because they've limp/called and now they wanna donkbet. It's unlikely you're gonna make this type of player fold now and if they even have K2 you're drawing to runner runner to win. Just let it go.
Hand 2 - Good iso, but again I probably just fold the flop. Generally we iso people who are loose/passive so they limp loads, then decide to call a raise with junk 'cos they've already put some money in the pot', then just check/fold a stupidly high % of the time. When he decides to donkbet, again it's almost certain he has at least 1pr, we're unlikely to make him fold and can't just be calling to try to hit a bigger pair
Comments
Sorry to have to say this, but as far as I can see from this diary it is true.
Things havnt improved
Played well generally, only 4 tables. Thought more about decisions, played a tighter more disciplined game and went back to writing my thought on paper when I feel like im tilting.
Unforunatly I lost all my profits in the last 10mins and ended up a few £ down so basically break even....disappointing. Need to keep trying to fit long grinds in somewhere in my week and try and turn things around. Got 5 ddays to think about what im going to do after this month pokerwise, still feeling too take all money out and have a break.
Might start posting in the poker clinic, but don't like the thought of players who don't know what there doing giving me wrong advice, could confuse me. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
1 )
2)
My thinking for the hand is, his call is odd pre and I expect a pocket pair or AQ/ KQ/ AJ s sorta hand.
I cb as he will fold a lot of the pocket pairs, the turn bet is im almost certain that he now has to have a premium hand on the turn otherwise he will be good enough to fold.
My reads tell me if he hasn't folded by now he has the goods, did I miss a good triple barrel spot on the river or should I have not even of bet the turn. I feel like I now allow him to bluff with his missed FD....but that's all tbh he cant bluff with much else cause I don't think he would get to the river with much else, his a player I think is solid and he doesn't make many mistakes.
He told me in chat he had 22, but I find it hard to believe he set mines with 22, in that spot?
From my experience at that level, people generally have what their betting suggests. There could be a table dynamic, or maybe he has been getting very aggro/stacking off light, in which case the hand would make more sense. In a vacuum though, it's a fold on the turn however nitty this may feel.
H2 dont barrel that turn v craig
Felt really good about poker this morning after wanting to stop playing at the end of the month. I went on 2+2 forum and it just showed me how many people love the game and can be good and win money at it . I also watched some videos and its wanted me to get back to playing properly.
The same problems occur, I have boredom and tilt problems that will restrict how good I will be, until I can control them its always going to be hard so that the first step, I need to solve them.
If I can just get help from other players and keep looking at things to improve my game I can beat 10nl, its only 10 nl so it should be one of the easier levels to beat. Even considering buying a beating micro stakes book.
Played today played good aggressive poker and even had a bad beat and come out winning 2.3 buy ins. My nut straight was beat when the money went in on the turn and the river paired the board.
Havnt played on 888, the rakeback is rubbish and I wanna earn enough to pay for my duecescracked on its own.
Sky: £339,60
888: $526
Felt really good about poker this morning after wanting to stop playing at the end of the month. I went on 2+2 forum and it just showed me how many people love the game and can be good and win money at it . I also watched some videos and its wanted me to get back to playing properly.
The same problems occur, I have boredom and tilt problems that will restrict how good I will be, until I can control them its always going to be hard so that the first step, I need to solve them.
If I can just get help from other players and keep looking at things to improve my game I can beat 10nl, its only 10 nl so it should be one of the easier levels to beat. Even considering buying a beating micro stakes book.
Played today played good aggressive poker and even had a bad beat and come out winning 2.3 buy ins. My nut straight was beat when the money went in on the turn and the river paired the board.
Havnt played on 888, the rakeback is rubbish and I wanna earn enough to pay for my duecescracked on its own.
Sky: £339,60
888: $526
Also on the football front im really disappointed to lose bale, Im a massive fan of his, even have a big signed picture of him in my living room. Think his been really disrespectful towards us and I think he was abit unfair with the stuff he was apparently saying at the end. I still wish him all the best at real but not sure if he will be a successs or not.
Signed lamella who looks good and £30m break our transfer record for the 3rd time this summer, so im happy with our business and overall we have a stronger team. I honestly fully believe we have one of the best squads in the prem. Surely were going to finish above the sc um this year, a win on sunday will also be lovely !!!
Update
Another circle. make down to where I was yesterday. mental game and skill game was rubbish today, trying to do more of what I see and no is tough to play against but I just felt so lost in hands today, felt uncomfortable with the aggression I was giving. Maybe it would of made more sense if I hit stuff as my session was dead today, maybe it would of made more sense as I might of got paided off more. Struggled for focus again. Its really dull sometimes if your not active on your tables and your just sitting there, even music didn't help, only played about 90 mins.
My play deserved to lose, but the hands I lost with didn't deserved to lose lol
Cant believe how confussed I am with poker, im only playing 10nl!?! could understand if I just play poker an hour a week but I mostly play/revise/ watch poker everyday. Did everyone playing 20/30/50/100nl feel like this when they played 10nl ? and how do u get the "winning " thought and plays in your head? I cant watch anymore videos, maybe I should just post hands, but even then you don't get a definite answer, just a discussion, so next time that situation comes up I still wont no what to do.
sky: £318
888:$526
Update
Just pick any day and read it , its just the same for today.
still s * *t at poker
still tilting
still slightly losing
still not improving BR
still moaning
Sky: £311
update
I won 4.4 buy ins on 888, played while watching sky sports news, it kept me more interested which helped. Was 3 more buy ins up but got 2 bad beats usual stuff nothing too bad but ill take a winning session seeing as my poker has fallen apart in recent weeks.
I then played sky and had tv on again, crushed one table was up to £45 and a few other tables I was up, even one stacks heads up with quads which was good.
Lost my 2 biggest pots in bluffs, can I have some advice from readers with bluffs and barrels and board textures etc, as I think its been good for my game as it gets me paid more and im harder to play against, but did I do anything wrong in the hands I lost which I will post below, thanks.
Sky: £321.45 (+1 buy ins )
888: $568.34 ( +4.4 buy ins)
99% of losing players blame either the site, or variance or the other players calling any 2 cards.
Your comment above is very good in a way. You know its your game that needs work - this is most of the battle won!
First thing to note is that I am TAG/NIT, so my advice might not really be optimal for you as I see you more LAG. Not that saying that is bad or good, but purely as an observation and that must be kept in mind when reading my thoughts.
Hand 2. imho.
Raise pre fine obv.
For me, I just fold the flop.
Flop for Robbie. If you want to be getting involved when you totally miss I would say to raise the flop. You arent really going to get a good card on the turn to bluff at very often as there are no flush draws and only the ace as an over card. If they are donking with air or not much (reads?) you can get them to fold, if they dont you can give up on the turn most of the time.
As played you just have to fold the turn, simple fact is they have something and we have nothing so we just let this one go.
Villain made a decent check call on the river as they probably realise the card was a blank unless you had 78.
But of course I am far from a cash expert.
I've lost touch a bit with this thread but from the recent posts it sounds like things aint going too well. I used to have massive tilt problems and it really is a killer cos you can be a really good player when you're playing well but if you tilt badly/often it can just completely destroy any progress you make when playing well.
I replied to your PM btw.
Hand 1 - Sometimes I might just fold pre but I don't mind isolating them either, if so just stick to the 3x + 1 per limper so you should only make it 50p pre imo. Just fold the flop, obviously villian is passive because they've limp/called and now they wanna donkbet. It's unlikely you're gonna make this type of player fold now and if they even have K2 you're drawing to runner runner to win. Just let it go.
Hand 2 - Good iso, but again I probably just fold the flop. Generally we iso people who are loose/passive so they limp loads, then decide to call a raise with junk 'cos they've already put some money in the pot', then just check/fold a stupidly high % of the time. When he decides to donkbet, again it's almost certain he has at least 1pr, we're unlikely to make him fold and can't just be calling to try to hit a bigger pair