The present position, as referenced in the official statement at the top of this board, is that Sky Poker are still trying to at least do something Community & Site-based for this year’s WSOP. Whether it will happen or not, remains to be seen.
I know the rough outline of the plans, but not the fine detail, & I’d rather leave it at that for the moment, until the position becomes clearer. We very much hope it happens, & it has already been cleared by the Legal advisors. Now the nuts & bolts need finalising. We hope this can be announced very shortly.
Completely separate to that, there are some plans which have been finalised, these were agreed a few weeks ago, in early May.Sky Poker will be sending a cameraman, & myself, to Las Vegas for the duration of the Main Event.
We’ll be specifically following the Main Event, & concentrating on the “big names”, as well as Brits, and of course on any Sky Poker players who are in Vegas to play the Main Event. I know of at least 6 Sky Poker regular players who will be doing so.
We’ll get numerous filmed interviews, available in almost real time here in the UK, these will be every day, & hopefully plenty of them. Dan the Producer arrives a few days before the Main Event commences, & we’ll shoot some footage in & around Vegas, then base ourselves at The Rio for the Main Event, from Day 1a, until just after the Cash Bubble bursts.
Personal footnote - I shall be heading out there in mid-June to play some poker for a few weeks before Dan arrives & “work” starts, I’ve barely played Live in the last 12 months, so I’m going to play a mixture of Events around Town.
This is not a business trip, but I’ll try & do Daily Blogs from the day I arrive, as I do every year, & I’ll do phone-ins to the Show.
Completely unrelated to Sky Poker, but it is possible I may play the Main Event, too, as a bunch of friends elsewhere have voluntarily offered to stake me. I never asked them, it just sort of got suggested by someone, & that set the ball rolling. That is currently in the balance, I have my fingers crossed, it is a 50/50 shot really, depending on various details. Nothing to do with the matter in hand really, but I wanted to mention it for the sake of completeness.
Next up, I’ll reply to the specific questions on this thread.
I think to just put a closed post up saying no package without any reasons behind it is not a way to deal with this. First off they say logistics what paying entry fee and flights???????? So that will then lead to usual rumors from, are the site in trouble to or the site that incompetant that they cant book a package that every other site on the net will be offering. Alternatively have sky had trouble with regulators so they cant book a package- because if you just say no package without reasons you are letting people think there must be major issues, if not be upfront with your customers so we know our money is safe on sky and why so soon after a reduction in the cash 4 Points payout now no Vegas! This is not the way to respect your customers by just saying logistics as that excuse sound like my dog ate my homework! Posted by MRBURNS4
I hope my replies have helped explain the position.
I was not around this morning, if I had have been, I like to think I would have explained it immediately, & as openly as I'm able.
I am at a total loss as to why there are logistical issues.Its been done in previous years and you've had a whole year to organise this one.Please just be honest with your customers ,you had us hanging on all year then NO were not doing It this year. What message is this sending. Posted by REDARROW61
Looking forward to a good reply Tikay. Also can you explain why the origional thread was snap closed, thus no genuine discussion could be created on that? Posted by The_Don90
Hi Don.
No, not really.
I have my own, personal views on how best to communicate with Clients, & how a Community best works, but they sometimes conflict with how the Business thinks & works. I'm certainly not suggesting they are wrong, but we just see things from different angles.
There are always good reasons though. In truth, I don't know what they are, & I've no reason to ask.
When I got Online & saw both threads, I contacted the Office in Leeds & asked permission to reply to it, which was readily granted. So I did.
Think this was expected by most as the satelites and the advertising for them normaly start months ago and peeps who are going can get start making their plans. I was just wondering why there was such a hold up/delay with this announcement ? Posted by MP33
We were always hoping we could resolve the issue, but we eventually ran out of time.
There have been numerous commuunity threads about VLV, & I think I replied, or commented, on the majority of them.
gotta say, sad news - think it was a bit special going with Tikay and the TV coverage and all that. Not many others can do the whole package like Sky can, think Sky has missed out on this one. Posted by rancid
I think the way Sky Poker ran VLV, especially as to how we looked after everyone, met them at the Airport, had a welcome dinner, & generally were there for them throughout, was better than any other site that I have seen. Last year Thewy was with them all the time, what could be better than that? So yes, a shame.
Fingers crossed, if we can resolve the problems, VLV will resume next year, & there may yet be something this year, too.
No honesty aloud but this thread will be closed watch this space Posted by CHILLIE
I raise.
As long as it remains compliant, the Thread will remain open. If it gets out of hand as to abuse & flaming, it will be up to the Mods to deal with it as they see fit.
Hopefully, we can all keep it civil, & if so, it will remain open.
I assume it just doesnt make good business sense as theres external costs sky have to put up outiwth the prizepools and also the chance of tourneys not hitting guarantees. Posted by offshoot
No, there were no concerns on those issues.
PS - Well done on Sunday, &, to a lesser degree, last night!
Think I've answered most questions, as best as I am able.
I don't want to go round & round, but if there are further genuine questions which have not been addressed so far, I'll deal with them tomorrow, as I'm hoping for a quiet night at home this evening.
The present position, as referenced in the official statement at the top of this board, is that Sky Poker are still trying to at least do something Community & Site-based for this year’s WSOP. Whether it will happen or not, remains to be seen. I know the rough outline of the plans, but not the fine detail, & I’d rather leave it at that for the moment, until the position becomes clearer. We very much hope it happens, & it has already been cleared by the Legal advisors. Now the nuts & bolts need finalising. We hope this can be announced very shortly. Completely separate to that , there are some plans which have been finalised, these were agreed a few weeks ago, in early May. Sky Poker will be sending a cameraman, & myself, to Las Vegas for the duration of the Main Event. We’ll be specifically following the Main Event, & concentrating on the “big names”, as well as Brits, and of course on any Sky Poker players who are in Vegas to play the Main Event. I know of at least 6 Sky Poker regular players who will be doing so. We’ll get numerous filmed interviews, available in almost real time here in the UK, these will be every day, & hopefully plenty of them. Dan the Producer arrives a few days before the Main Event commences, & we’ll shoot some footage in & around Vegas, then base ourselves at The Rio for the Main Event, from Day 1a, until just after the Cash Bubble bursts. Personal footnote - I shall be heading out there in mid-June to play some poker for a few weeks before Dan arrives & “work” starts, I’ve barely played Live in the last 12 months, so I’m going to play a mixture of Events around Town. This is not a business trip, but I’ll try & do Daily Blogs from the day I arrive, as I do every year, & I’ll do phone-ins to the Show. Completely unrelated to Sky Poker, but it is possible I may play the Main Event, too, as a bunch of friends elsewhere have voluntarily offered to stake me. I never asked them, it just sort of got suggested by someone, & that set the ball rolling. That is currently in the balance, I have my fingers crossed, it is a 50/50 shot really, depending on various details. Nothing to do with the matter in hand really, but I wanted to mention it for the sake of completeness. Next up, I’ll reply to the specific questions on this thread. Posted by Tikay10
Without a doubt the VLV was the cup final of Sky Poker whether taking part in the Sats or railing the final.
I stayed up late last year to rail Geldy who almost made it!
Thank you for your efforts Tikay.
I know you've tried your best for us!
Do you think the barriers could be resolved by next year? or has the VLV hit the dust forever?
In Response to Re: VLV update : Without a doubt the VLV was the cup final of Sky Poker whether taking part in the Sats or railing the final. I stayed up late last year to rail Geldy who almost made it! Thank you for your efforts Tikay. I know you've tried your best for us! Do you think the barriers could be resolved by next year? or has the VLV hit the dust forever? Posted by DUNMIDOSH
I am VERY confident indeed that VLV will return in 2014, but nothing in life is certain. Not sure I'll still be here at Sky Poker, given my age & all that, but you never know. Time will tell, which, read literally, is a tad worrying.....;)
Could sky have not just advertised a ' Trip To Las Vegas' package (not mentioning WSOP) and just transferred the money to a bank account in the USA and bought people in when the team were over there themselves?
In Response to Re: VLV update : I raise. As long as it remains compliant, the Thread will remain open.If it gets out of hand as to abuse & flaming, it will be up to the Mods to deal with it as they see fit. Hopefully, we can all keep it civil, & if so, it will remain open. Posted by Tikay10
I have come out of my forum hibernation to keep an eye on this thread. I will be doing everything I can to make sure this thread says open. If this means deleting abusive posts and blocking members who produce such posts, so be it.
This is a very important subject for many of the members of this forum who justifiably have questions. I also think Tikay deserves a lot of credit for addressing any and all such questions head on.
If this thread stays in the direction it is going, hopefully everyone will come to a satisfying conclusion.
It's a shame this is not happening but would probably have been out of my roll anyway. On a completely separate note Tikay, do you know how long you will be in Vegas? I am going out at the end of the Summer and it would be cool to bump into some Sky faces.
A couple of Vegas related questions from me.......
1) a) Is the Sky sponsored Pro, Julian Thew, being bought into the main Event either partly or in full by Sky Poker?
b) Will Sky Poker be investing in yourself when you do finally decide to play the big one?
If either, or both, of these can not be answered, I fully understand.
2) With the opportunity now gone for players to go to Vegas via Sky Poker, can/will they now look into doing some online sats for UK based live bigger tournaments?
. The problem this year arose specifically around the fully-compliant transmission of the cash to the cage at The Rio. The two parties - SB&G (Sky Betting & Gaming), & CE (Caesars Entertainment, who own The WSOP brand & The Rio), had conflicting arrangements as to payment for services, & it was not possible to resolve these in time. It was most certainly not for want of trying. These days due to Online Gaming matters in the USA, of which you will be aware, it is really quite complex for European facing businesses to arrange transfers of large sums of cash to Corporations based in Las Vegas in a legally compliant manner. All this was around the turn of the year, & early 2013. Posted by Tikay10
Was a bit gutted as my brother happened to be passing through while i was there but decided not to go a cpl of months back when i realised it wasn,t unlikely to be on - wil save some money tho
Ruddy politics - What you gonna do? as Tony soprano would say. Nothing you can do about it now for this year
For some added interest and looking on a positive note i think you shoud definately play the ME . You say 50/50. You might not get another chance. And you could fold your way to day 4
EDIT - An idea for a new tournie - Win a peice of TK for ME
Could sky have not just advertised a ' Trip To Las Vegas' package (not mentioning WSOP) and just transferred the money to a bank account in the USA and bought people in when the team were over there themselves? Posted by BrownnDog
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The present position, as referenced in the official statement at the top of this board, is that Sky Poker are still trying to at least do something Community & Site-based for this year’s WSOP. Whether it will happen or not, remains to be seen.
I know the rough outline of the plans, but not the fine detail, & I’d rather leave it at that for the moment, until the position becomes clearer. We very much hope it happens, & it has already been cleared by the Legal advisors. Now the nuts & bolts need finalising. We hope this can be announced very shortly.
Completely separate to that, there are some plans which have been finalised, these were agreed a few weeks ago, in early May. Sky Poker will be sending a cameraman, & myself, to Las Vegas for the duration of the Main Event.
We’ll be specifically following the Main Event, & concentrating on the “big names”, as well as Brits, and of course on any Sky Poker players who are in Vegas to play the Main Event. I know of at least 6 Sky Poker regular players who will be doing so.
We’ll get numerous filmed interviews, available in almost real time here in the UK, these will be every day, & hopefully plenty of them. Dan the Producer arrives a few days before the Main Event commences, & we’ll shoot some footage in & around Vegas, then base ourselves at The Rio for the Main Event, from Day 1a, until just after the Cash Bubble bursts.
Personal footnote - I shall be heading out there in mid-June to play some poker for a few weeks before Dan arrives & “work” starts, I’ve barely played Live in the last 12 months, so I’m going to play a mixture of Events around Town.
This is not a business trip, but I’ll try & do Daily Blogs from the day I arrive, as I do every year, & I’ll do phone-ins to the Show.
Completely unrelated to Sky Poker, but it is possible I may play the Main Event, too, as a bunch of friends elsewhere have voluntarily offered to stake me. I never asked them, it just sort of got suggested by someone, & that set the ball rolling. That is currently in the balance, I have my fingers crossed, it is a 50/50 shot really, depending on various details. Nothing to do with the matter in hand really, but I wanted to mention it for the sake of completeness.
Next up, I’ll reply to the specific questions on this thread.
I was not around this morning, if I had have been, I like to think I would have explained it immediately, & as openly as I'm able.
No, not really.
I have my own, personal views on how best to communicate with Clients, & how a Community best works, but they sometimes conflict with how the Business thinks & works. I'm certainly not suggesting they are wrong, but we just see things from different angles.
There are always good reasons though. In truth, I don't know what they are, & I've no reason to ask.
When I got Online & saw both threads, I contacted the Office in Leeds & asked permission to reply to it, which was readily granted. So I did.
There have been numerous commuunity threads about VLV, & I think I replied, or commented, on the majority of them.
Fingers crossed, if we can resolve the problems, VLV will resume next year, & there may yet be something this year, too.
The position is exactly as I have explained it, & there are no plans for any form of "Team Sky Poker" to be present.
Plans for the next Team Sky Poker adventure are currently well advanced, it will be similar, with variations, to the one we ran recently.
As long as it remains compliant, the Thread will remain open. If it gets out of hand as to abuse & flaming, it will be up to the Mods to deal with it as they see fit.
Hopefully, we can all keep it civil, & if so, it will remain open.
PS - Well done on Sunday, &, to a lesser degree, last night!
Think I've answered most questions, as best as I am able.
I don't want to go round & round, but if there are further genuine questions which have not been addressed so far, I'll deal with them tomorrow, as I'm hoping for a quiet night at home this evening.
Thanks.
This is a very important subject for many of the members of this forum who justifiably have questions. I also think Tikay deserves a lot of credit for addressing any and all such questions head on.
If this thread stays in the direction it is going, hopefully everyone will come to a satisfying conclusion.
Ruddy politics - What you gonna do? as Tony soprano would say. Nothing you can do about it now for this year
For some added interest and looking on a positive note i think you shoud definately play the ME . You say 50/50. You might not get another chance. And you could fold your way to day 4
EDIT - An idea for a new tournie - Win a peice of TK for ME