In Response to Re: ** Cash Champ Leaderboard ** : There is no advantage because you don't know how many points they have, so you don't know how much more you need to play Posted by HiJoker
of course there is a huge advantage?? say its the final day if you are 20th you know you need to play at least the same as people 21st, 22nd, 23rd 24th etc to guarantee a top 20 finish, if you do that then 8 people enter at the last minute who have been grinding all week then all of a sudden you have no chance and its all a waste
In Response to Re: ** Cash Champ Leaderboard ** : There is no advantage because you don't know how many points they have, so you don't know how much more you need to play Posted by HiJoker
Some regs are at the SPT? But just as important, as Jordz said it knocks people lower down the pecking order out of contention for a cash bonus, allbeit small.
In Response to Re: ** Cash Champ Leaderboard ** : Some regs are at the SPT? But just as important, as Jordz said it knocks people lower down the pecking order out of contention for a cash bonus, allbeit small. Posted by ACEGOONER
Don't know what your point is
That's because they haven't played enough, not because people haven't appeared on the list until the last second.
If you're entering this promo presumably you will be playing the most you possibly can, after factoring in life balance, bankroll, ability etc etc so why would you just be aiming to just stay in the top 20 when for all you know the difference in points from 15-19 is marginal, you should just be playing as much as you feel comfortable with to give you the best chance of winning the most prize money
In Response to Re: ** Cash Champ Leaderboard ** : Don't know what your point is That's because they haven't played enough, not because people haven't appeared on the list until the last second. If you're entering this promo presumably you will be playing the most you possibly can, after factoring in life balance, bankroll, ability etc etc so why would you just be aiming to just stay in the top 20 when for all you know the difference in points from 15-19 is marginal, you should just be playing as much as you feel comfortable with to give you the best chance of winning the most prize money Posted by HiJoker
Unless a reg has a laptop multitabling at the SPT he cannot accrue points, no? Plus all the travelling time etc.I thought that was obvious.
Your kinda sidetracking the original point which is that if you want to be in a promo you should make yourself visible, not enter a code on the last day and shoot to the top of the leaderboard, otherwise this thread is pointless.
In Response to Re: ** Cash Champ Leaderboard ** : Unless a reg has a laptop multitabling at the SPT he cannot accrue points, no? Plus all the travelling time etc.I thought that was obvious. Your kinda sidetracking the original point which is that if you want to be in a promo you should make yourself visible, not enter a code on the last day and shoot to the top of the leaderboard, otherwise this thread is pointless. Posted by ACEGOONER
That's got nothing to do with people registering at the last minute, more to do with Sky's poor planning.
But that doesn't mean they have an advantage over anyone else by doing so, as you stated.
Got to agree with Hijoker in so far that not regging until the last second has no advantage whatsoever, and as such those that have are at no disadvantage.
There's not a direct advantage from doing it, but there is an indirect disadvantage for some by this being done. If there's no difference in payout between 15th and 20th, someone sat in 15th might think they are safe to not play the last day, then get a rude awakening.
To be honest, I don't think it's a big deal either way, but promos imo shuold generally be aimed at recreational players (there are quite a few in the top 20s) and a lot of these won't even be aware of the sicko grinders that haven't entered the code so they'll be sat in 16th thinking 'this is alright, bit of free money', then a group of people they've never heard of enter the code and they're 21st.
I completely agree with the 'they've earned more points so they've beat you and should be there', I just think it's a bit under-handed. In the grand scheme of things it makes no difference, and if Sky never posted a league table it would make zero difference, but surely Sky post it so people can track their progress, and you can't do this when you don't know the full list of players involved.
FWIW, I never bother chasing these things and it doesn't really concern me but there is my 2 cents.
then why have a leaderboard at all?? the way is see it if i want to check the football league tables i dont want to see how 3/4 of the teams are doing and have to roughly guess how the others are doing but then have to wait until the final day of the season to see exactly where my team is?? (being a west ham fan sometimes its best not to look at all). i just think it either need to have a full table of everyone taking part, or just have no table at all and wait until its finished to see. otherwise people can get false hope and may put in less hours than they could thinking they would make the money, surely if they had a full leaderboard updated daily it would lead to a lot more people having an interest and there fore playing more poker, which i assume is good all round?
Got to agree with Hijoker in so far that not regging until the last second has no advantage whatsoever, and as such those that have are at no disadvantage. Posted by TommyD
but is it not true that chasing someone in a (physical) race is likely to lead you to a faster time than racing alone (assuming you do not burn out). and unless you are one of a very small minority who can perform at 100% regardless, then having someone to chase will be beneficial.
I do not see why that should not apply here as well. of course it means that only that small minority can benefit from late regging..... (DTM etc)
then why have a leaderboard at all?? the way is see it if i want to check the football league tables i dont want to see how 3/4 of the teams are doing and have to roughly guess how the others are doing but then have to wait until the final day of the season to see exactly where my team is?? (being a west ham fan sometimes its best not to look at all). i just think it either need to have a full table of everyone taking part, or just have no table at all and wait until its finished to see. otherwise people can get false hope and may put in less hours than they could thinking they would make the money, surely if they had a full leaderboard updated daily it would lead to a lot more people having an interest and there fore playing more poker, which i assume is good all round? Posted by jordz16
Very good point, exclude man utd from the prem league, and bring them in for the last week, we know they are going to win !
But the difference between that and the cash champ promo is we dont know who is going to win, and we should see from the start who is in contention. Its quite simple really, if you want to enter the promo do it before it starts, otherwise only be credited with points from registration.
Dont allow players to play the system as happens every time sky do something like this.
It's fine, if you think there's an advantage in not opting in, then don't opt in.
DTM & co will say "well it's unfair that you've opted in and can see where you are. I have no idea where I am so don't know if it's worth me grinding or not"
simple answer - no one register untill the last day then there will be silly leaderboard - infact it would disencourage people to grind more and so sky get less rake surely the whole point to post the leaderboard is to encourage people to play more = more rake cmon sky just close reg for promo after the 1st day - better for everyone concerned Posted by rancid
why dont you leave it untill the last moment then GONNER if its such a big advantage? Posted by Donttelmum
it is no advantage for those at the top who know where they are, all it does is disadvantage those 15-25 area. all you are doing by late regging is annoying those who will now bubble the competition even though its no advantage to yourself? it's just poor form imo nothing wrong in doing it just dont see what you are trying to acheive
I am new to the site and this is my first attempt at the Cash Champ promotion. I think the easiest solution would be to have a deadline to enter the promo code before it actually starts. The league table would then be accurate and people participating would now exactly where they stood.
In Lower level I can only think of 2 players Donttelmum and Supecrazy who aren't currently on list who will defo be in top 10, anybody else? As they are using not regging as a tactic we can surely out them?
I don't normally bother with these things but am encouraged by sitting in 13th, so it might affect how much I play at weekend if people come up with a load more who haven't entered code so far
In Response to Re: ** Cash Champ Leaderboard ** : it is no advantage for those at the top who know where they are, all it does is disadvantage those 15-25 area. all you are doing by late regging is annoying those who will now bubble the competition even though its no advantage to yourself? it's just poor form imo nothing wrong in doing it just dont see what you are trying to acheive Posted by jordz16
There will be people in the 15-25 area who haven't entered the code.
DTM getting the heat here coz everyone knows who he is and that he's won, thousands of cash players on the site wont have entered the code.
fwiw I think sky shud post the top 50 in each category each morning, in alphabetical order.
If I were competing I'd want a leaderboard. But if people are going to moan about the rules I don't see any point. You'd prob moan a lot more if there wasn't a daily update.
Post the top 50, and let ppl grind their ar ses off until the last minute of the last day, has to be the way forward for sky.
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To be honest, I don't think it's a big deal either way, but promos imo shuold generally be aimed at recreational players (there are quite a few in the top 20s) and a lot of these won't even be aware of the sicko grinders that haven't entered the code so they'll be sat in 16th thinking 'this is alright, bit of free money', then a group of people they've never heard of enter the code and they're 21st.
I completely agree with the 'they've earned more points so they've beat you and should be there', I just think it's a bit under-handed. In the grand scheme of things it makes no difference, and if Sky never posted a league table it would make zero difference, but surely Sky post it so people can track their progress, and you can't do this when you don't know the full list of players involved.
FWIW, I never bother chasing these things and it doesn't really concern me but there is my 2 cents.
I do not see why that should not apply here as well. of course it means that only that small minority can benefit from late regging..... (DTM etc)
It's fine, if you think there's an advantage in not opting in, then don't opt in.
DTM & co will say "well it's unfair that you've opted in and can see where you are. I have no idea where I am so don't know if it's worth me grinding or not"
He knows he's gonna win, coz he grinds hardest.
There is no advantage either way, get on with it.
infact it would disencourage people to grind more and so sky get less rake
surely the whole point to post the leaderboard is to encourage people to play more = more rake
cmon sky just close reg for promo after the 1st day - better for everyone concerned
+1
DTM getting the heat here coz everyone knows who he is and that he's won, thousands of cash players on the site wont have entered the code.
fwiw I think sky shud post the top 50 in each category each morning, in alphabetical order.
If I were competing I'd want a leaderboard. But if people are going to moan about the rules I don't see any point. You'd prob moan a lot more if there wasn't a daily update.
Post the top 50, and let ppl grind their ar ses off until the last minute of the last day, has to be the way forward for sky.