I'd rather be around fun people having fun, even if the odd one crosses the line once in a while, than a room full of miserable people with headphones and Ipads who won't say 3 words all night.
I'd rather be around fun people having fun, even if the odd one crosses the line once in a while, than a room full of miserable people with headphones and Ipads who won't say 3 words all night. Posted by Giant811
I wasn,t there at the weekend so can,t say to much but have shared a table with 1 of the ppl in question at 2 previous SPT,s and couldn,t agree more
I'd rather be around fun people having fun, even if the odd one crosses the line once in a while, than a room full of miserable people with headphones and Ipads who won't say 3 words all night. Posted by Giant811
This is where social awareness is meant to comes into play, hence my comment about the people who only come out at christmas going over the top and using the "I was only having fun" excuse.
It's always fun at poker event's be they sky events or others promoters. But being acting like a 10 year old down the play barn is not fun. I do genuinely think some SPT players only get out when going to a SPT. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but respect all others who have also come along for a good night.
Feeling like you've stumbled accross a council estate BBQ with people who cannot handle their drink IS NOT FUN! An if your idea of someone enjoying themselves is seeing them get blind drunk and make an idiot of themselves then you really need to change your friends and get out more.
I do agree though MOST Sky players have a fantastic fun time, have a great laugh, meet some new friends and DO NOT make idiots of themselves.
You can always go to a club after the tourament to let of steam, that's me and my mates do.
In Response to Re: SPT Notts - Sky Players banned! : Around 95% of the times I have been to a casino or card room on a weekend night (Fri to Sunday) I have seen at least one person escorted to the door. SPTs represent less than 5% of my combined weekend live casino experiences and at SPTs I have also seen local non Sky players asked to retire earlier than they had planned. People get drunk, drunk people can be a pain in the backside, establishments dislike very drunk people to remain on their premises. This is not new or news. From my SPT visits 99.9% of people have been impeccably behaved and I find your post to be both misleading and unrepresentative of my and many others' SPT experiences. Posted by TommyD
This 110%.
Those who received bans know who they are and didn't really need gossip on Sky's community pages, that is my opinion to the purpose of this thread and it wasn't a thread that needed posting.
In Response to Re: SPT Notts - Sky Players banned! : This is where social awareness is meant to comes into play, hence my comment about the people who only come out at christmas going over the top and using the "I was only having fun" excuse. It's always fun at poker event's be they sky events or others promoters. But being acting like a 10 year old down the play barn is not fun. I do genuinely think some SPT players only get out when going to a SPT. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but respect all others who have also come along for a good night. Feeling like you've stumbled accross a council estate BBQwith people who cannot handle their drink IS NOT FUN! An if your idea of someone enjoying themselves is seeing them get blind drunk and make an idiot of themselves then you really need to change your friends and get out more. I do agree though MOST Sky players have a fantastic fun time, have a great laugh, meet some new friends and DO NOT make idiots of themselves. You can always go to a club after the tourament to let of steam, that's me and my mates do. Posted by OHIMGOOD
Thats a bit stereotypical and assumptious isn,t it ?
I know off a lot of ppl who live or have grown up on council estates who would find that remark pretty offensive
In Response to Re: SPT Notts - Sky Players banned! : This 110%. Those who received bans know who they are and didn't really need gossip on Sky's community pages, that is my opinion to the purpose of this thread and it wasn't a thread that needed posting. Posted by Sammydrid
with all due respect that was nothing to do with it
i've no interest in the gossip - hence i didn't name names or incidents. I was truly worried about the impact this might have on future SPT events.
I now know that my worries were very naive and I have nothing to worry about, for which i am very pleased.
i also find out that this type of incident seems to be very frequent in the UK, based on TommyD's post, and not at all exclusive to SkyPoker or binge drinking kids. This makes me very sad. And it is clear that others are also unhappy with this type of thing happening, which cheers me up a little.
So I have learnt a lot from this thread. There is plenty of gossip in the chat boxes on this, it's not as if I've exposed an ugly secret.
In Response to Re: SPT Notts - Sky Players banned! : with all due respect that was nothing to do with it i've no interest in the gossip - hence i didn't name names or incidents. I was truly worried about the impact this might have on future SPT events. I now know that my worries were very naive and I have nothing to worry about, for which i am very pleased. i also find out that this type of incident seems to be very frequent in the UK, based on TommyD's post, and not at all exclusive to SkyPoker or binge drinking kids. This makes me very sad. And it is clear that others are also unhappy with this type of thing happening, which cheers me up a little. So I have learnt a lot from this thread. There is plenty of gossip in the chat boxes on this, it's not as if I've exposed an ugly secret. Posted by GELDY
I've respected your play and forum posts for a long time.
I'm certain that most regulars, know there was no malice, just concern when you posted the thread!
Big congratulations on cashing at the SPT!
I hope next July I'll be congratulating you in cashing at the WSOP. Cos, if there is a Viva Las Vegas I'm sure you'll take it down!
Well my point made rather badly I will agree is...
There is a time and a place for everything. At a SPT it is possible to come away thousand and thousands of pounds better off than when you arrived. Just because someone doesn't get blind drunk and make plonker of themselves does not make them boring.
The guy sitting at the table with headphones on being quiet during a poker game may well be the loudest drunkest craziest guy you'll ever meet when he is in Ibiza with mates. A little courtesy and consideration for those around you and an understanding of the enviroment you're in is all that is needed.
Why should the main talking point of an SPT be someone getting banned?
In Response to Re: SPT Notts - Sky Players banned! : with all due respect that was nothing to do with it i've no interest in the gossip - hence i didn't name names or incidents. I was truly worried about the impact this might have on future SPT events. I now know that my worries were very naive and I have nothing to worry about, for which i am very pleased. i also find out that this type of incident seems to be very frequent in the UK, based on TommyD's post, and not at all exclusive to SkyPoker or binge drinking kids. This makes me very sad. And it is clear that others are also unhappy with this type of thing happening, which cheers me up a little. So I have learnt a lot from this thread. There is plenty of gossip in the chat boxes on this, it's not as if I've exposed an ugly secret. Posted by GELDY
It is not frequent, unless I just don't notice it....Bare in mind I'm in one or other of the various casinos around Wolverhampton, Birmingham, Walsall most weekends and some weekdays.
SPT's have an atmosphere unlike any other poker tournaments I have ever played. This is largely due to the community aspect of the site and friendships / rivalries that have been formed over a number of events and years. This is what makes the SPT's unique and why so many people come back time and time again. Yes it's unfortunate that a couple of people got over exuberant this time and took things too far and have been rightfully banned from the venue as I understand it. But let's not let one blip detract from what makes the SPT's such great fun events for the majority of us.
Yes OHIMGOOD, I agree that the guy with his headphones on has every right to sit quietly in his own little world, likewise you have the right to take the poker tournament seriously and remove yourself from any of the high spirits and I certainly wouldn't try to stop either of you doing your own thing. But please don't try to sanitise what for most of us are great fun events with a bunch of great people. There are loads of boring poker tournaments you can go and play every day of the week, I would certainly not like the SPT's to become another one of them.
It's hard to comment on the spcifics as I wasn't at Nottingham this weekend. However, in Birmingham there was a lot of drunkenness, and that seems to have carried over to Nottingham. Loud drunk people on a rail are never an addition to an event. Someone stewing quietly in a corner can be ignored. The venues must take a degree of responsibility. If you serve someone 20 shots of Sambuca, you can't be too shocked if they get drunk. I think expelling the people who were drunk earlier would have been far more sensible than a lifetime ban. We do things in our youth that we aren't proud of in our older years. A lifetime's ban for one night's disgression seems an excessive response - however, they make their rules, and are allowed to act as they please. I'm sure the whole incident will have been forgotten by DTD (other than their computer ban list), and that they probably ban people every week. It won't reflect on Sky, but that doesn't mean we don't have a collective responsibility to act better at SPTs. A few drinks and a laugh are fine - it IS a social event, but sense must prevail.
There is a reluctance from venues to expel anyone at a third party event. They don't want to spoil anyone's weekend, and I know that if it were a normal Saturday at their club then people behaving like that would have been removed from the club earlier. They tried very hard not to reach the stage where a ban was necessary, out of a sensibility to Sky poker and its Tour who had in effect hired the club's facilities/staff/dealers etc for the weekend, but were left with no choice
I reiterate that a couple of bans from DTD at one event has no implication going forward for SPTs at DTD
Thanks fr the response, SPT. I understand that the behavior in question went beyond the pale. However, an expulsion (however unpalatable that may be when soneone has hired the venue) must be preferable to a ban. At the end of the day, we are all responsible for our own actions. I think closing this thread would serve no purpose. Perhaps a tagline to the next even could remind players that their behavior should not fall below the standard expected, but then again, we're all adults, and should know when to stop. Persoanally, I am saddened for the people involved who (certainly in one case) are profoundly embarassed by their actions. As I say, a night's indiscretion for a lifetime ban. We live and learn.
In Response to Re: SPT Notts - Sky Players banned! : This is where social awareness is meant to comes into play, hence my comment about the people who only come out at christmas going over the top and using the "I was only having fun" excuse. It's always fun at poker event's be they sky events or others promoters. But being acting like a 10 year old down the play barn is not fun. I do genuinely think some SPT players only get out when going to a SPT. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but respect all others who have also come along for a good night. Feeling like you've stumbled accross a council estate BBQ with people who cannot handle their drink IS NOT FUN! An if your idea of someone enjoying themselves is seeing them get blind drunk and make an idiot of themselves then you really need to change your friends and get out more. I do agree though MOST Sky players have a fantastic fun time, have a great laugh, meet some new friends and DO NOT make idiots of themselves. You can always go to a club after the tourament to let of steam, that's me and my mates do. Posted by OHIMGOOD
And just what do you mean by this comment??? I know some sky players like to think there better then everyone but this comment has really P****D me off. Who do you think you are to judge people who live on council estates??? You ignorant judgemental person!!!!!!!!
In Response to Re: SPT Notts - Sky Players banned! : Thats a bit stereotypical and assumptious isn,t it ? I know off a lot of ppl who live or have grown up on council estates who would find that remark pretty offensive Posted by MP33
GELDY Posts: 1634 First: 15/8/2010 Last: 30/7/2013 word of mouth but as I have no independent confirmation, and was not a witness to it myself, it's not for me to repeat But yet you feel the need to start a thread about it.....hmmmmm go figure Posted by LENGALENG
my op was about possible implications of that activity on future SPTs because I was really worried. So I obv had to refer to it o/w no-one would have a clue what i was talking about.
So brand me naive sure, stupid, maybe, but duplicitous no way.
In Response to Re: SPT Notts - some Sky Players banned! : my op was about possible implications of that activity on future SPTs because I was really worried. So I obv had to refer to it o/w no-one would have a clue what i was talking about. So brand me naive sure, stupid, maybe, but duplicitous no way. Posted by GELDY
I think this debate has got out of hand in places.
I feel both players regret there actions, in fact i have spoken to both and that is pretty clear.
However as far as im aware ample warning was given and DTD acted in what they thought was best, which they have every right too do.
As for comparing an SPT to a council house estate BBQ, i can assure you to go to 99% of SPTs this isnt the case. yes you have many like myself who do live on a housing estate, and like BBQs and many other who are different from higher class backgrounds. I also struggle to see how, weather someone lives on a housing estate or a mansion in the middle of some rich estate effects someones ability to drink.
I also suggest you find out the background of the players before suggesting such jibbersish
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It's always fun at poker event's be they sky events or others promoters. But being acting like a 10 year old down the play barn is not fun. I do genuinely think some SPT players only get out when going to a SPT. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but respect all others who have also come along for a good night.
Feeling like you've stumbled accross a council estate BBQ with people who cannot handle their drink IS NOT FUN! An if your idea of someone enjoying themselves is seeing them get blind drunk and make an idiot of themselves then you really need to change your friends and get out more.
I do agree though MOST Sky players have a fantastic fun time, have a great laugh, meet some new friends and DO NOT make idiots of themselves.
You can always go to a club after the tourament to let of steam, that's me and my mates do.
There is a time and a place for everything. At a SPT it is possible to come away thousand and thousands of pounds better off than when you arrived. Just because someone doesn't get blind drunk and make plonker of themselves does not make them boring.
The guy sitting at the table with headphones on being quiet during a poker game may well be the loudest drunkest craziest guy you'll ever meet when he is in Ibiza with mates. A little courtesy and consideration for those around you and an understanding of the enviroment you're in is all that is needed.
Why should the main talking point of an SPT be someone getting banned?
Yes OHIMGOOD, I agree that the guy with his headphones on has every right to sit quietly in his own little world, likewise you have the right to take the poker tournament seriously and remove yourself from any of the high spirits and I certainly wouldn't try to stop either of you doing your own thing. But please don't try to sanitise what for most of us are great fun events with a bunch of great people. There are loads of boring poker tournaments you can go and play every day of the week, I would certainly not like the SPT's to become another one of them.
The venues must take a degree of responsibility. If you serve someone 20 shots of Sambuca, you can't be too shocked if they get drunk.
I think expelling the people who were drunk earlier would have been far more sensible than a lifetime ban. We do things in our youth that we aren't proud of in our older years. A lifetime's ban for one night's disgression seems an excessive response - however, they make their rules, and are allowed to act as they please.
I'm sure the whole incident will have been forgotten by DTD (other than their computer ban list), and that they probably ban people every week. It won't reflect on Sky, but that doesn't mean we don't have a collective responsibility to act better at SPTs. A few drinks and a laugh are fine - it IS a social event, but sense must prevail.
There is a reluctance from venues to expel anyone at a third party event. They don't want to spoil anyone's weekend, and I know that if it were a normal Saturday at their club then people behaving like that would have been removed from the club earlier. They tried very hard not to reach the stage where a ban was necessary, out of a sensibility to Sky poker and its Tour who had in effect hired the club's facilities/staff/dealers etc for the weekend, but were left with no choice
I reiterate that a couple of bans from DTD at one event has no implication going forward for SPTs at DTD
I understand that the behavior in question went beyond the pale. However, an expulsion (however unpalatable that may be when soneone has hired the venue) must be preferable to a ban.
At the end of the day, we are all responsible for our own actions. I think closing this thread would serve no purpose. Perhaps a tagline to the next even could remind players that their behavior should not fall below the standard expected, but then again, we're all adults, and should know when to stop.
Persoanally, I am saddened for the people involved who (certainly in one case) are profoundly embarassed by their actions. As I say, a night's indiscretion for a lifetime ban. We live and learn.
First: 15/8/2010
Last: 30/7/2013