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Timebank - yes or no?

Sky_PokerSky_Poker Member Posts: 2,715
edited January 2014 in Feedback & Suggestions

Inspired by this thread (which seems to divide people)....
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited August 2013
    A time bank would be good but not a long one. More than fifteen extra seconds would be too much.... and it would not be good in tournaments such as turbos, satellites or timed tournies.

    It would be of some use in cash games and freezeout tournies with reasonably long structures.

    So it's a qualified yes.
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  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited August 2013
    Anyone who needs more time then play less tables. Dont slow it down for everyone else.
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  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,410
    edited August 2013
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    Anyone who needs more time then play less tables. Dont slow it down for everyone else.
    Posted by ajs4385
    How many tables do you play? I thought you played a fair few but maybe I'm wrong! I play 3-4 tables almost always which imo is not too many tables but given that I play fairly loose there can be times when I'm playing a hand on all 4 tables and sometimes it would be nice to have a couple seconds longer so I can make better decisions. Most of the time I'm fine though, so I don't think I should drop down the tables I play.

    Obviously if someone is choosing to play 8-10 tables and can't manage, I don't have much sympathy for them! But a timebank would be good for times where you have an important decision to make and need a little more time to think. I think someone's suggestion of timebank being a reward for when you play quick is a good idea. That way, it won't slow down the games at all since people will want to make decisions quicker in general to give them time when they have a harder decision.
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  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited August 2013
    sometimes you are put in a really tough spot, and need more than 15 seconds to think about it. I like the way stars do their timebanks - you get a one off timebank, a few seconds at added at scheduled intervals, such that when its gone it slowly regenerates over time.

    because the timebank isnt regenerated each hand you find it is only used when it is actually needed. if it was activated automatically it would give a few extra seconds for those that get disconnected too...
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited August 2013
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    Anyone who needs more time then play less tables. Dont slow it down for everyone else.
    Posted by ajs4385
    what a dumb comment. 
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited August 2013
    id love a timebank, i usally never need to use a timebank but sometimes your put in a really awkward spot in an mtt and you just need a little bit longer before deciding what to do.
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  • TINTINTINTIN Member Posts: 1,612
    edited August 2013
    kinda undecided on this.

    yes you get the few times where a little extra would be handy for the really tough decisions but I cant help thinking it would become abused, more so in tourneys around the bubble. I know h4h is there but that still doesn't stop people running the timer down every hand and if a timebank was there to be used it could become quite infuriating.
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  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited August 2013
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no? : what a dumb comment. 
    Posted by THEROCK573
    Hows it dumb my concern the games will be slowed down.
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  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited August 2013
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no? : How many tables do you play? I thought you played a fair few but maybe I'm wrong! I play 3-4 tables almost always which imo is not too many tables but given that I play fairly loose there can be times when I'm playing a hand on all 4 tables and sometimes it would be nice to have a couple seconds longer so I can make better decisions. Most of the time I'm fine though, so I don't think I should drop down the tables I play. Obviously if someone is choosing to play 8-10 tables and can't manage, I don't have much sympathy for them! But a timebank would be good for times where you have an important decision to make and need a little more time to think. I think someone's suggestion of timebank being a reward for when you play quick is a good idea. That way, it won't slow down the games at all since people will want to make decisions quicker in general to give them time when they have a harder decision.
    Posted by F_Ivanovic
    On average I am on 6 tables, playing highest 6 max cash games going most days for last 4 years. Never needed a timebank.

    Whatever happened to you ivan. If i remember rightly you where a 1/2 reg back in 2009
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited August 2013
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no? : Hows it dumb my concern the games will be slowed down.
    Posted by ajs4385
    thats like me now telling you to play more tables if you think its too slow with a timebank.
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  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited August 2013
    It doesnt affect me in the slightest if the games are slowed as I dont notice it as I multi table.

    The ones who are affected are the 1 tabling recreational players who fund this site.

    I highly doubt these players will be voting in this poll.

    Any changes in software should primarily be made with people who spend money on poker in mind.
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited August 2013
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    It doesnt affect me in the slightest if the games are slowed as I dont notice it as I multi table. The ones who are affected are the 1 tabling recreational players who fund this site. I highly doubt these players will be voting in this poll. Any changes in software should primarily be made with people who spend money on poker in mind.
    Posted by ajs4385
    so you're issue is that the one tabling recreational player who pays you're wages may get bored with a timebank and bog off to anther site.

    i wouldnt worry about that because all other sites have timebanks so there not going stop playing on here because of it.

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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited August 2013
    It was my naivety in not knowing how timebanks work on other sites that probably bumbled my way into thinking that they should be 'earnt' by being quick normally.

    For what its worth i only play small stakes but am pretty loose and i only play 4-6 tables depending on how the tables are playing at the time. I very very rarely need the timebank but a small delay sometimes when you're trying to work the hand out in a weird spot could make a big difference. Normally i am very quick with my decision making but i sometimes fold the winning hand due to not having enough time to work the hand back and figure out the villains range, stack etc. 

    Dunno how it would be calculated but something like.....
    (decisions made in under 'x' seconds) x ('y' number of decisions made in under 'x' seconds) = 'z' seconds added to time bank up to a maximum of say 10 seconds.

    As for it affecting bubble's then surely going hand to hand across the tables would be the way forward?

    I understand ajs point of view also but if its worked out properly then it should'nt really slow it down that much. On the old software some players have worked out how to slow it down anyway. When the timebar turns red and creeps down. Happens alot in micro stakes stuff. Can be infuriating when the same player does it over and over again.


    I think its well worth a trial if nothing else.
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  • skicowboysskicowboys Member Posts: 162
    edited August 2013
    I know this is only for cash players at the moment but looking forward to tournies, imo, one 15 second timebank over a tourney that may last 3-4 hours seems like a good move to me. It is hard sometimes when it's for your tournament life, if you can you always want to make the correct decision and this would help.
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  • FCHDFCHD Member Posts: 3,178
    edited August 2013
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    It doesnt affect me in the slightest if the games are slowed as I dont notice it as I multi table. The ones who are affected are the 1 tabling recreational players who fund this site. I highly doubt these players will be voting in this poll. Any changes in software should primarily be made with people who spend money on poker in mind.
    Posted by ajs4385
    I'm a one-table recreational player and I have voted in this poll.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2013
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    Anyone who needs more time then play less tables. Dont slow it down for everyone else.
    Posted by ajs4385

    Hi mr selfish welcome back. It's good of you to be so focused on getting the best for sky as usual.



    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no? : what a dumb comment. 
    Posted by THEROCK573
     

    watch out he's a favourite and you'll get banned for pointing out obvious truths.



    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no? : Hows it dumb my concern the games will be slowed down.
    Posted by ajs4385


    then why do you timebank down a tonne just 6 tabling? remembering ofcourse that you're yet to put any money in the pot on any kind of regular basis.

    if anyone hasn't played with ajs imagine if you will howard lederer, and then hearing him complain about how nitty the games are....



    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no? : On average I am on 6 tables, playing highest 6 max cash games going most days for last 4 years. Never needed a timebank. Whatever happened to you ivan. If i remember rightly you where a 1/2 reg back in 2009
    Posted by ajs4385



    you still haven't played a hand, nor have you gone past the flop with a set hence you've never thought about anything in your life. 8 ish seconds to make a move when you're potentially playing £1k pots is a joke.


    In Response to Re: Timebank - yes or no?:
    It doesnt affect me in the slightest if the games are slowed as I dont notice it as I multi table. The ones who are affected are the 1 tabling recreational players who fund this site. I highly doubt these players will be voting in this poll. Any changes in software should primarily be made with people who spend money on poker in mind.
    Posted by ajs4385



    are these the same people who pay your mortgage and you berate?





    this ofc was a really good suggestion from someone desperate to help the site as usual


    "dont like idea of timebank, if anything reduce time on decisions"


    it's hard to decide how big to make it pre with aces and fold the rest that slowly isn't it.


    It's lucky for the site there are such kind and generous intelligent regs piping up with their opinions, let us know when you stop sitting out at 6 max tables* saying 'you dont play hu when super multitabling because you know you don't like to mix your two vast skill sets'


    *where the disclaimer is unless there's a non shoe tying opponent obviously


    let us know when these 'biggest games on sky' run and how you sit there till the end and are always the last man standing rather than the one to leave within 1 second of a recreational player sorry mortgage payers chips being lost.
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  • calcalfoldcalcalfold Member Posts: 978
    edited August 2013
    Yes here.

    15 seconds would be fine, perhaps one per hour in a tourney

    Cash could be, once used it takes 500 hands for it to be restored.
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  • foldUfairyfoldUfairy Member Posts: 148
    edited August 2013
    I defo think a small time bank is a good addition to the the new software, nobody is asking for ages just a little extra will benefit the majority of players.
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  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited August 2013
    Beaneh - dont know what your on about but I dont have a mortgage.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited August 2013
    ok one good post out of 346. touche
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