The short amount of time given for decisions is the only thing that stops me playing at Sky every day and keeps me playing and raking at the market leading provider. I'm super serious. I find it veryhard to play my A-game when under this pressure.
I have also just realised different tables have different timers. £4NL has about 12 seconds and £200NL has about 20 seconds. Can Sky please confirm I have measured this correctly and also tell us why they decide to give beginners less time?
The market leading poker provider spends lots of money researching it's market and believes time banks are needed.
Rest assured we have not forgotten about this thread, we are just leaving it open to suggestions for a little while longer so that everyone gets their say....
Having played much of my poker on other sites recently it can be really frustrating when 60 second time banks are running down especially in the late stages of tourneys. However as a 1 or 2 table player a time bank of 15/20 seconds would be acceptable indeed needed if sky are to attract the multi table players.
Are people really defending a 10sec max on all decisions? For real? 'Oh you want a timebank for complex decisions? Just cut down your tables!'
How can anyone have that position itt. You do realise that we're not arguing for an increased timer, but a sizable reserve for difficult spots. How often do you see people complain of timebanking on other sites? 'Argh I find it so tilting when people take up to an additional 15secs for tough decisions. It's bad for the game I tells ya!' -.-
You cut down your tables WHEN you're timing out in spots by pure accident. atm, I am (and I suppose many others) are forced to act poorly/time-out because of a difficult situation, not because of too many. The two are completely different.
Timing out b/c of a sheer No. of decisions DOES NOT EQUAL timing out b/c of the complexity of difficult decisions. One involves pure speed of action. The other involves thinking critically incredibly fast.
Timing out pre/flop/turn/river = Cut-down tables Timing out in big pots = Use timebank (learn to think critically, quicker) [And idc how good you are, the complexity of some spots exceeds 10secs. Even Nanonoko will tell you that.]
Beaneh pretty much nailed the thread already anyway. Just mental how incredulous some claims are itt though. Mental.
Polls and opinions are rubbish. People actually using their own money to vote is far better.
Seriously, one day of development for a time bank on one table limit (eg £1/2) as a trial and see who uses it and test whether it gets abused and adjustments can then be made.
As an uber low stakes player of 10p/20p I do not expect a time bank but then I seldom have a difficult decision when playing optimally is a, b, c. 25p/50p and higher it seems reasonable to have the option if used after trials.
I quite like the idea of playing 300 hands an hour playing 4 tables as that fits on my laptop and I do believe this may cause concern to people complaining about the slow hands, since I have to make extra effort to plug into additional monitors to maintain the hands per hour.
My vote is a definite YES to introducing timebanks... I only play recreationally at low stakes but you do still find the occasional point where you just want a few extra seconds to call up player notes, replay the hand in your head and then make at least some attempt at a well-thought out response.
Can't see how 15-30 extra seconds every hour or so at a table can have a significantly negative impact on play? Anyone that 'abuses' the time bank by letting it run down needlessly will just be shooting themselves in the foot when they get a tougher decision later on and have no time to think.
As an aside - if people want faster decisions, can't Sky just introduce turbo cash tables where everyone has a reduced amount of thinking time? Can't say I'd want less time myself, but I'm old and slow, I'm sure lots of younger players (and gamblers) would be happy to play at a table where everyone gets no more than, say, 5 seconds to act.
i am in favour of a time bank because it is sometimes hard to play 8 tables and check facebook at the same time Posted by tamas
Good call! The time-bank would allow plenty of time to try to decipher the meaning behind our pretend friends latest deliberately vague attention seeking status.
The short amount of time given for decisions is the only thing that stops me playing at Sky every day and keeps me playing and raking at the market leading provider. I'm super serious. I find it veryhard to play my A-game when under this pressure. I have also just realised different tables have different timers . £4NL has about 12 seconds and £200NL has about 20 seconds. Can Sky please confirm I have measured this correctly and also tell us why they decide to give beginners less time? The market leading poker provider spends lots of money researching it's market and believes time banks are needed. In conclusion; PLEASE GIVE ME MORE TIME Posted by StringerB
Absolutely. A time-bank is a must, which is why it's seen on almost all other poker sites.
But I agree with the gists of some of the other posts; don't go to the deeply-annoying, Pokerstars-style 90 second time bank, just have one that is twenty seconds, refreshed every half hour on cash or every hour in tournaments.
Inspired by this thread (which seems to divide people).... Posted by Sky_Poker
I think yes as sometimes you can have a slight delay in the hand rounds which when your calling late in your time clock does not allow your call with out time bank sometimes I have been folded out too soon
Is there any need to disable them nearing the bubble of a tourney? Surely the bubble/coming up to final table is when we might have the toughest decisions to make and are going to be MOST likely to need a timebank? If you think that people on SS are going to use it like how some players time down every hand, then that's up to them to waste their time bank on that. It ain't going to replenish once it's gone for a while so it's tough luck to them if they find later on they have a hand where they do have a tough decision.
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Rest assured we have not forgotten about this thread, we are just leaving it open to suggestions for a little while longer so that everyone gets their say....
Some great feedback and thanks for your patience.
Joe
'Oh you want a timebank for complex decisions? Just cut down your tables!'
How can anyone have that position itt. You do realise that we're not arguing for an increased timer, but a sizable reserve for difficult spots. How often do you see people complain of timebanking on other sites?
'Argh I find it so tilting when people take up to an additional 15secs for tough decisions. It's bad for the game I tells ya!'
-.-
You cut down your tables WHEN you're timing out in spots by pure accident.
atm, I am (and I suppose many others) are forced to act poorly/time-out because of a difficult situation, not because of too many. The two are completely different.
Timing out b/c of a sheer No. of decisions DOES NOT EQUAL timing out b/c of the complexity of difficult decisions.
One involves pure speed of action. The other involves thinking critically incredibly fast.
Timing out pre/flop/turn/river = Cut-down tables
Timing out in big pots = Use timebank (learn to think critically, quicker)
[And idc how good you are, the complexity of some spots exceeds 10secs. Even Nanonoko will tell you that.]
Beaneh pretty much nailed the thread already anyway. Just mental how incredulous some claims are itt though. Mental.
My vote is a definite YES to introducing timebanks... I only play recreationally at low stakes but you do still find the occasional point where you just want a few extra seconds to call up player notes, replay the hand in your head and then make at least some attempt at a well-thought out response.
Can't see how 15-30 extra seconds every hour or so at a table can have a significantly negative impact on play? Anyone that 'abuses' the time bank by letting it run down needlessly will just be shooting themselves in the foot when they get a tougher decision later on and have no time to think.
As an aside - if people want faster decisions, can't Sky just introduce turbo cash tables where everyone has a reduced amount of thinking time? Can't say I'd want less time myself, but I'm old and slow, I'm sure lots of younger players (and gamblers) would be happy to play at a table where everyone gets no more than, say, 5 seconds to act.