In Response to Re: tilt demons? : Maybe, but I DO take your points. I just don't really agree that it is "incurable". I know countless poker players who have recovered from "tilt" problems by reading The Mental Game of Poker, for instance. To be honest, I don't believe "tilt" & poker are a good blend, & those who suffer need to work at it. It can't be fun getting angry all the time during a recreational game, can it? I was playing on here last night, & one poor chap was going absolutely loopy, because he took a beat. In OMAHA! And I so wanted to engage with him, help him grasp how poker works, so he could enjoy it more. But its not easy to chat with someone who is on raging tilt, it is like trying to have a rational convo with someone who is bladdered, it just don't work. He'll be back today, & be in fine fettle. Until he takes a beat, then it will all kick off again. How can that be fun for him? Anyway, yes, let us agree to disagree. Good debate, imo. PS - Incidentally, I am not saying I never tilt. I do, but at real life stuff, not a game. Posted by Tikay10
I fully agree tilt and poker are an AWFUL blend. I have admitted to tilting during poker, but this is only rarely. If I'm playing one mtt and I suffer a bad beat then I'm fine with it (ish), I can brush it off. However if I'm in the middle of a downswing and I'm suffering from repeated bad beats then this in when I start to tilt and I do stop enjoying the game............this is something I would like to change so I do intend to read The Mental Game of Poker in the near future as I have had nothing but good reports about it.
I think jac makes a good point about people who are playing tournaments/cash that they can't really afford being very likely to tilt.
In Response to Re: tilt demons? : I fully agree tilt and poker are an AWFUL blend. I have admitted to tilting during poker, but this is only rarely. If I'm playing one mtt and I suffer a bad beat then I'm fine with it (ish), I can brush it off. However if I'm in the middle of a downswing and I'm suffering from repeated bad beats then this in when I start to tilt and I do stop enjoying the game............this is something I would like to change so I do intend to read The Mental Game of Poker in the near future as I have had nothing but good reports about it. I think jac makes a good point about people who are playing tournaments/cash that they can't really afford being very likely to tilt. Posted by waller02
Top Wallering Waller.
I promise it will help. It just will.
Let us know how you get on, please.
Just imagine how many bad beats & downswings you will suffer in the next 10 years if you play, say, three tables or Tourneys per day, 7 days per week. Thousands of them. It is inevitable. Nothing - NOTHING - can change that. So it's best to try to find a way to come to terms with them, shrug your shoulders & move on to the next game.
It's all about enjoying it at our level. Solve the tilt problem, & you will.
this might sound odd bt I actually have poker chips and shuffle then when playing oline silly I no but help e to think a bit more about what i'm doing better hen.
try it I may help but u don't half look like a mug to people in ur house.
this might sound odd bt I actually have poker chips and shuffle then when playing oline silly I no but help e to think a bit more about what i'm doing better hen. try it I may help but u don't half look like a mug to people in ur house. Posted by D_Legend
You da man!
Glad I was not the only one.
When I began playing Online I played thousands of 9 & 10 players SNG's, in blocks of 3 or 4.
3 or 4 at a time would have the kids lolling these days, but back then, with computers & software much less developed, it was quite something to 4 table.
Playing SNG's for 12 hours at a stretch did weird things to the mind, so to aid my concentration, for each (say) 9 man SNG I had open, I would have a seperate stack of 9 chips. The 9 man SNG's played three places.
In each stack of 9 chips, 6 were red, one was blue, one was green, one was yellow.
Every time a player busted out, I'd remove one chip from "that" stack, & that way, I had an easy visual reference to how my 4 Games were going, & when they were all down to the red blue & yellows, I was really pumped up, as I was in the money in all of them. A really peculiar thing is the human mind, but ignore it's little tricks at your peril.
Did it work? You bet it did. Playing $50 & $100 SNG's on PS, I ran $200 up to $27,000 in around three months.
Impressive, huh? $27,000 in 3 months!
The kids on 2+2 call me a "lolpro", but I doubt many of them have managed that. Eat yer hearts out lads.
For the sake of balance, I should add that I then lost the whole $27,000 in less time than it took me to win it. Yup, lost the lot. Feel free to mock. Qualified lolpro.
And so that was my introduction to the Goddess we now call Variance.
Amazingly, I still see players who have not sussed Variance, or how brutal, or heavenly, it can be. When on the right side, they are the greatest players ever born, on the wrong side, well, it's rigged, 'innit?
The 1 thing I have learned about tilt is that it calms down with age. Many years ago I used to go off the deep end with minor irritants now its only the major ones lol.
I have just downloaded The Mental Game of Poker for the Kindle as again, I've heard nothing but good stuff about it. Have experienced a downswing recently, partly down to bad beats, but also because of tilting due to these. I feel its really having an affect on the decisions I make and also annoys the wife (who also plays on the site and copes with it a lot better!).
Although it doesn't help when I get AA cracked on the bubble of an SnG and the player puts 'cya' in the chat box.....
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I think jac makes a good point about people who are playing tournaments/cash that they can't really afford being very likely to tilt.
I promise it will help. It just will.
Let us know how you get on, please.
Just imagine how many bad beats & downswings you will suffer in the next 10 years if you play, say, three tables or Tourneys per day, 7 days per week. Thousands of them. It is inevitable. Nothing - NOTHING - can change that. So it's best to try to find a way to come to terms with them, shrug your shoulders & move on to the next game.
It's all about enjoying it at our level. Solve the tilt problem, & you will.
Good luck!
try it I may help but u don't half look like a mug to people in ur house.
Glad I was not the only one.
When I began playing Online I played thousands of 9 & 10 players SNG's, in blocks of 3 or 4.
3 or 4 at a time would have the kids lolling these days, but back then, with computers & software much less developed, it was quite something to 4 table.
Playing SNG's for 12 hours at a stretch did weird things to the mind, so to aid my concentration, for each (say) 9 man SNG I had open, I would have a seperate stack of 9 chips. The 9 man SNG's played three places.
In each stack of 9 chips, 6 were red, one was blue, one was green, one was yellow.
Every time a player busted out, I'd remove one chip from "that" stack, & that way, I had an easy visual reference to how my 4 Games were going, & when they were all down to the red blue & yellows, I was really pumped up, as I was in the money in all of them. A really peculiar thing is the human mind, but ignore it's little tricks at your peril.
Did it work? You bet it did. Playing $50 & $100 SNG's on PS, I ran $200 up to $27,000 in around three months.
Impressive, huh? $27,000 in 3 months!
The kids on 2+2 call me a "lolpro", but I doubt many of them have managed that. Eat yer hearts out lads.
For the sake of balance, I should add that I then lost the whole $27,000 in less time than it took me to win it. Yup, lost the lot. Feel free to mock. Qualified lolpro.
And so that was my introduction to the Goddess we now call Variance.
Amazingly, I still see players who have not sussed Variance, or how brutal, or heavenly, it can be. When on the right side, they are the greatest players ever born, on the wrong side, well, it's rigged, 'innit?
Although it doesn't help when I get AA cracked on the bubble of an SnG and the player puts 'cya' in the chat box.....