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Can an old dog learn new tricks?

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  • patwalshhpatwalshh Member Posts: 772
    edited October 2014
    Just stopping by to give my best Tikay! See you at the tables perhaps :)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,463
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Just stopping by to give my best Tikay! See you at the tables perhaps :)
    Posted by patwalshh

    Pat!

    Yeah, if you fancy a little PLO8, I'm the mark at the moment, I'm in the middle (well I hope near the end, lol) of my biggest downswong ever.

    Fill 'yer boots!
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,756
    edited October 2014
    Hi Mr Tikay sir,just wanted to post my best wishes and a huge thanks for you know what. You are a true gent. good luck on your quest for pl08 domination,  I may join you sometime on the virtual felt.its a fab game :)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,463
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Hi Mr Tikay sir,just wanted to post my best wishes and a huge thanks for you know what. You are a true gent. good luck on your quest for pl08 domination,  I may join you sometime on the virtual felt.its a fab game :)
    Posted by tomgoodun


    Thanks Tom.

    I cannot begin to imagine the mental turmoil you must be going through right now.
     
    For those who have not followed Tom's Diary, over in "The Rail", this is the bottom line......

    "...I have an appointment next Friday when they will be explaining the radiotherapy treatment,that is a rather daunting prospect...."

    We can but imagine.
     
    Tom's Diary is HERE
  • gerardirlgerardirl Member Posts: 1,299
    edited October 2014
    Hi Tikay if it makes you feel any better Im also in my biggest downswing ever! Waited and waited yesterday against team aggro. Got aa22 and shoved ... was called as expected flop comes 366 .....aggressor goes all in , I call . They have 36 in their hand....no low came ....same old story at the moment!

    Hope it turns for us both. On the plus side im crushing on another site which makes it all the stranger why things are going so bad here!

    Ger
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,463
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Hi Tikay if it makes you feel any better Im also in my biggest downswing ever! Waited and waited yesterday against team aggro. Got aa22 and shoved ... was called as expected flop comes 366 .....aggressor goes all in , I call . They have 36 in their hand....no low came ....same old story at the moment! Hope it turns for us both. On the plus side im crushing on another site which makes it all the stranger why things are going so bad here! Ger
    Posted by gerardirl
    It happens Ger, but I hope it soon turns for you.

    Funny how it messes with our heads. I'm not sure if I'm currently on a Downswong, or the first 12 months were an Upswong.......!

    Anyway, I'm keeping the volume low at the mo, until the storm passes.

    It would help if I stopped raising into Macac when she has the Aces, lol. Did it twice last night, & once the night before. That's bad timing rather than bad luck or bad play, & I always had a genuine hand, just that hers was genuiner.......

    I was very short in one last night, 4 of us left, I'm Button to Miss Twiglet's BB. She had around 5,000 chips or something ridic, & I had 2 Bigs I think but I found Aces, really good aces, so I shoved into her monster stack.

    And what did she do?

    Took another swig of wine from the bottle & SPITE FOLDED.

    That woman is a menace.

     
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited October 2014
    Not really sure why you're struggling with these. 
    Played one of your funny games last. I got it in with 2 others and I don't really know what i actually had but all the chips came my way.
    Played 1 Won 1 Booked the win.  Easy game

    #inspiration
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,463
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Not really sure why you're struggling with these.  Played one of your funny games last. I got it in with 2 others and I don't really know what i actually had but all the chips came my way. Played 1 Won 1 Booked the win.  Easy game #inspiration
    Posted by Jac35
    Love that, full of quality rubs.

    Even a hashtag.

    # sick, so so sick........
     
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited October 2014
    That game with Jac was weird, 'twas over in about 15 minutes!

    Anyway, to shame TK into trying harder and not simply giving up when he plays me, the current challenge figures are as follows.

    After 49 DYMs.
    Team Concrete 19
    Team Twiglet 37

    ps. I don't swig wine from the bottle, only rum.
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,597
    edited October 2014
    This sort of thing is probably what Tikay is struggling with:-

    £11 PLO8 DYM, I have 13 BB left (1370 chips blinds 50/100).

    Early position raiser makes it 350 and I have AA2Q with 2 hearts, this used to be known as a 'premium hand'. Anyway I pot it to 1100 and the other guy calls.

    Flop comes Jc 6c 6h, I go in for my remaining 270 chips and the other guy calls and turns over.......4c 6c 8 9.

    Turn is the Qc so he improves to the flush and the river is a 10h and I am out in 5th position.

    Lesson to be learned? Well obviously AA2Q is no longer a premium hand but 4,6,8,9 is the pre flop nuts and can't be folded to a reraise.

    This sort of thing is what Tikay seems to be running into, PLO8 is a strange, strange game!

    Run well!

    ps it wasn't Twiglet either!
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited October 2014
    That is quite the norm enut.
    A raise is no longer respected, but seen as an opportunity to gamble.
  • ajmiltonajmilton Member Posts: 1,458
    edited October 2014
    Omaha, Omaha, Omaha, Did someone say Omaha?
    hmmm, oh, it must have been me. that's right guy's, I mention it because I've just won my first ever tourney in Omaha. How pleased am I? I'll tell you. Very, very pleased in deed.
       Only my second or third tourney in this format, albeit a small stakes tourney but, we all have to learn somewhere.
       I do like this format, but have recently discovered another game with four cards
    PLO8. Now, this is a different ball game altogether high cards and low cards.
    what's that all about? Either way, they both make you think about the game in a different way. I think the Omaha type game can improve your NLHE GAME imo.
      
    ajmilton260001£6.50Insomniac102£3.901234dave03£2.60
    Gl GUY'S  CYA SOON

    Regards Alan
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,232
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    That is quite the norm enut. A raise is no longer respected, but seen as an opportunity to gamble.
    Posted by Macacgirl1

    Its actually getting ridiculous, I played a PLO8 tournament tonight and some of the cards I saw being played made me nervous to open a pot, trying to put people on a range is impossible. 
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,478
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Its actually getting ridiculous, I played a PLO8 tournament tonight and some of the cards I saw being played made me nervous to open a pot, trying to put people on a range is impossible. 
    Posted by HENDRIK62

    I think i was at your table for a while and i agree some of the hands were optimistic at best!
    I just sat there patiently, saw cheap flops and stacked them when i had the nuts as they were calling with anything:-)

    Came 2nd in the end :-)
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,232
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : I think i was at your table for a while and i agree some of the hands were optimistic at best! I just sat there patiently, saw cheap flops and stacked them when i had the nuts as they were calling with anything:-) Came 2nd in the end :-)
    Posted by VespaPX

    Yes we did Vespa, very well played waiting them out, unfortunately I lost patience lol.

    I guess in many ways we just need to adjust the thinking somewhat, expect the unexpected, and in my case not leading out into a supposedly dry board have had a pot raise called pre flop......obviously the 'dry' board smashed his range completely.......bye bye me ;-)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,463
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    That game with Jac was weird, 'twas over in about 15 minutes! Anyway, to shame TK into trying harder and not simply giving up when he plays me, the current challenge figures are as follows. After 49 DYMs. Team Concrete 19 Team Twiglet 37 ps. I don't swig wine from the bottle, only rum.
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    OBJECTION!
  • FCHDFCHD Member Posts: 3,178
    edited October 2014
    Overruled!
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,463
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Omaha, Omaha , Omaha , Did someone say Omaha? hmmm, oh, it must have been me. that's right guy's, I mention it because I've just won my first ever tourney in Omaha. How pleased am I? I'll tell you. Very, very pleased in deed.    Only my second or third tourney in this format, albeit a small stakes tourney but, we all have to learn somewhere.    I do like this format, but have recently discovered another game with four cards PLO8. Now, this is a different ball game altogether high cards and low cards. what's that all about? Either way, they both make you think about the game in a different way. I think the Omaha type game can improve your NLHE GAME imo.    ajmilton 26000 1 £6.50 Insomniac1 0 2 £3.90 1234dave 0 3 £2.60 Gl GUY'S  CYA SOON Regards Alan
    Posted by ajmilton
    Just a bit!

    Good stuff Alan, & I hope you stay with the game.
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited October 2014
    Thinking about optimistic hands...
    I was playing a £3 DYM yesterday.  Level 3, all players remaining. I'm on the BB and am dealt AAA9. It's a snap fold hand.  Anyways, first to act pot raises it, so, there's the other ace I think... what followed left me laughing actually... everyone called around to me, I fold.
    So it's five handed and the flop comes A4J!
    What then happened, amazed me, it became an all-in between four players.
    Someone will have a set of jacks I think, someone will have a set of fours I think, that was a big fat NOPE! One player had Queens and no lo draw and the other three players have four random low cards.
    Turn and river come Q9.
    Everything about the game was crazy.
    How could mr QQ think he was winning, why were three players all-in on a lo draw, why were they playing those hands to start with. Puzzling stuff!
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,463
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    That is quite the norm enut. A raise is no longer respected, but seen as an opportunity to gamble.
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    (In reply to Tuney, also).

    Yup, & a perfectly legit tactic to just go bananas with "any four".
     
    As more & more people are now playing the game here, it is quite natural to expect more of this.

    Personally, I LOVE to play against these guys, they really add spice to the game, & make you think tactically.

    There were 2 games last night where a player just raised EVERY HAND pre-flop, then potted every street. It's scary, but huge fun, & if you play technically correct, & keep getting it in with the correct hands, you'll always beat them long term, but you'll take a few flesh wounds along the way.
     
    In one of the 2 games last night, I knew what the guy was doing, & decided that once I found the right hand, I'd take him on. We MUST fully commit when we do, get the lot in pre if we can, because we WILL be favourite. Don't mean we'll win, but we just need to keep getting it in good, & it'll be fine.
     
    My man & I went to war, me with A-2-8-K DS, & he turned over the extraordinary J-9-2-2. (!)The flop was 7-7-2 (yup, the case 2) & so he flopped the boat, but my emergency low gave me the chop.

    The guy busted 2 players early, & so had 6,000 chips, so it was all very tactical, & tremendous fun.
     
    We want a table full of these guys every game.
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