In Response to Re: Got to love the micro stakes : All true, except the part about calling knowing we're losing. It just comes down to whether we think the villain could be betting this amount as a bluff. If he can't be, then obviously it's a fold. If he can be, we only need to beat such a small portion of his range that folding would be a mistake. Ironically in this spot, I think a bigger bet would be easier to call, in a vacuum. Even if sometimes he has the Ace with his flush draw, a lot of the time he doesn't and we don't need to be winning a majority of the time for the call to be +EV. If he had bet half-pot, we'd need to win 25% of the time to break even. If he'd bet 3/4 pot, we'd need to win 30% of the time... So we're calling knowing that we're probably losing more often than not. It's just a question of whether we're losing often enough to make it -EV. That's very read dependent. We always need to consider the rake, of course. Posted by BorinLoner
Probably should've clarified, I think we're nearly always losing when calling that quite small amount. Had the bet been bigger, then I think a call can be good sometimes.
In Response to Re: Got to love the micro stakes : Strongly disagree, after playing the micros for far to long, most micro stakes players do not in a million years consider bet sizing, size of the pot, pot odds, outs, etc etc If they have a flush draw, straight draw, 2 overs, 1 out, no outs they don't care, no matter how bad, they will not give it up. To improve I admit I need change my mind set and stop playing the micros. Posted by -ACERAG-
And yet......you can not beat them,and constantly complain on here about getting beat and losing money..
In Response to Re: Got to love the micro stakes : And yet......you can not beat them,and constantly complain on here about getting beat and losing money.. "They are so bad I can't beat them"... Posted by DAVEYZZ
Correct, I know im getting my money in so good and favourite. They play luck.
Villain A - "its only pennies what's your problem" Villain B - "Its rigged and I know I was going to hit" Villain C - "I knew my bottom pair was good" Villain D - "im playing for fun" Villain E - " 2 7 is my Favourite hand" Villain F - "just gambling mate"
At the micros you have to have the goods. Most people are not at a thinking level of most of the above comments, so don't really think ie this looks like a value bet, im beat, ill fold. They will call with bottom pair when there are 4 suited cards blar blar.
I analysis my hands I play and its due to not getting a good run of cards, I will not say this again you have to have the goods at the micros.
In Response to Re: Got to love the micro stakes : And yet......you can not beat them,and constantly complain on here about getting beat and losing money.. "They are so bad I can't beat them"... Posted by DAVEYZZ
If you are that good that you offer "poker lesson" you must be as good as the other pros that offer lessons, ie OMGClayAiken, why are you not crushing the games ??..............................................................................................................................................................................argh silence.
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Shame Calc has no right of reply lol
Acerag have a look at your bet sizing!
And if you are ever about fire onto one of my tables!
Villain A - "its only pennies what's your problem"
Villain B - "Its rigged and I know I was going to hit"
Villain C - "I knew my bottom pair was good"
Villain D - "im playing for fun"
Villain E - " 2 7 is my Favourite hand"
Villain F - "just gambling mate"
At the micros you have to have the goods. Most people are not at a thinking level of most of the above comments, so don't really think ie this looks like a value bet, im beat, ill fold. They will call with bottom pair when there are 4 suited cards blar blar.
I analysis my hands I play and its due to not getting a good run of cards, I will not say this again you have to have the goods at the micros.