In Response to Re: What's in a name? : could you explain these benefits? Posted by The_Don90
I'll let you ponder that for now Don!
Meanwhile, BIG night tonight, with the 2nd of our weekly Finals, @ 9.15pm, there are 31 runners so far (6+ seats to Nottingham), plus a Semi Final at 7.15pm which has 16 entries with an hour to go plus Late Reg, so that is at least 3 more seats into the 9.15pm Final.
I hope you'll be amongst those trying a few Satellites, & good luck if you do.
In Response to Re: What's in a name? : Well yes, if the worst complaint levelled against is that the name is cumbersome, I think we'll be delighted. We are working very hard bts to make this a really special Event, and fingers crossed, we will. Meanwhile, the repetition of "poker" in the given name has some collateral benefits which are working in our favour. I hope you get a shot at some of that £500,000 Guarantee, David. To some, making that Final Table would be life-changing, especially for the winner who will take home a six-figure sum. And they might just get a very nice trophy, sufficiently wide to include the whole title. Posted by Tikay10
I might be still partying from taking down the High Roller event to perform optimally in the Main Event, but I'll give it my best shot guv
Jac, starting threads about almost anything is pointless. Is there really much point in posting diaries of our progress in poker? Do any of the people reading them actually have any stake in us? Mostly not, I would think, however some find it interesting and that's the justification for us posting such things. This is interesting to me and obviously to others as well. Note the number of responses.
I have suggested there's an issue that could be easily mended and I have suggested a remedy. Clearly it's my opinion as it's me that is saying it. I don't think I need to spell that out with the words "In my opinion" unless I could possibly be mistaken for a representative of the British government or some other organisation. Mine is, though, an opinion clearly shared by a great many people.
While some have defended the reasoning behind the name, nobody on this thread has actually defended it by saying it's a good name. That's probably because most of us don't think it is a good name.
As for it being "dumb": well, I'm sorry but I think it is. A great many people I've spoken to think it is. It has no bearing on me. I lose nothing from it. It is, however, something which will hold back the event if it isn't changed. That simply can't be denied as there are people out there like me, thinking it's dumb. Maybe it's not a huge problem... but then my response was only to start a forum thread - a proportional response - and not to start a nationwide protest movement. Why not start a thread about it?
As I said earlier, I'm sure there were good reasons to select this name. However, those good motives have led to a bad result.
I won't bother posting on this thread again. However, the thread is entirely justified.
In Response to Re: What's in a name? : I'll let you ponder that for now Don! Meanwhile, BIG night tonight, with the 2nd of our weekly Finals, @ 9.15pm, there are 31 runners so far (6+ seats to Nottingham), plus a Semi Final at 7.15pm which has 16 entries with an hour to go plus Late Reg, so that is at least 3 more seats into the 9.15pm Final. I hope you'll be amongst those trying a few Satellites, & good luck if you do. Posted by Tikay10
I would love to play this event. Unfortunetly with a damages roll, and weakened mental state atm i have decided to play much less poker and spend time with the family.
Ill try work out the thing in title, and hope this event will go well.
I really don't see how the name will ''hold the event back''. Yeah it's not the best name, but it's a 500k tourney held at the premium poker venue in the country.
I don't think most/all of the top pro players in the country give a rats @rse what it's called.
Nobody's saying it will stop any pros from playing or that this is a major problem...
It does, though, leave a bad first impression. If it puts off the odd recreational player, or makes the event more difficult to promote, then it does hold it back. It won't be the difference between £100k overlay or £100k extra in the prizepool, but why saddle it with a bad name when it can be easily fixed?
Did I say I wouldn't post on this thread again? Never mind.
Borin, yes, of course it's your right to start a thread if you so wish and most that you do are good. This one though, isn't.You've really spoken to a great many people about this? Why? A great many people share your view? Do they?
You seriously believe that people may not play in a poker tournament because it has a "dumb" name? Really?
Well, clearly the thread must be ridiculous Jac, because you've chosen to ridicule it.
If you disagree with opinions expressed, then make your arguments. The thread might not be important but, if you think so, just ignore it.
The whole point is that the name is not a good one. Clearly it isn't. You are not disputing that, yourself.
Have I spoken to a great many people about this? I suppose that depends on what you count as a great many. Clearly there are quite a few people on this thread and others who agree with me and I've discussed it briefly with some others. Does that amount to hundreds or thousands? Obviously not. Would a better phrase have been "quite a few"? Maybe so. I'll leave that for you to decide.
Might it put off the odd player? Well not someone who's already planning to go and play a big tournament or regularly does so. However, if that person casually asks a friend "would you like to try to qualify for this poker tournament with me?" and that friend's first reaction is "That sounds dumb" then yes, it's conceivable that the name may cause a casual player to not take the tournament seriously.
If branding and promotion weren't important, we'd all aspire to owning Toyota Prius' for their excellent fuel economy. Instead, most aspire to owning a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. Branding is important and does make a difference. This tournament is an example of less than brilliant branding and it makes it tougher to promote.
Worth posting about? I don't care. I chose to post about it.
Well, clearly the thread must be ridiculous Jac, because you've chosen to ridicule it. If you disagree with opinions expressed, then make your arguments. The thread might not be important but, if you think so, just ignore it. The whole point is that the name is not a good one. Clearly it isn't. You are not disputing that, yourself. Have I spoken to a great many people about this? I suppose that depends on what you count as a great many. Clearly there are quite a few people on this thread and others who agree with me and I've discussed it briefly with some others. Does that amount to hundreds or thousands? Obviously not. Would a better phrase have been "quite a few"? Maybe so. I'll leave that for you to decide. Might it put off the odd player? Well not someone who's already planning to go and play a big tournament or regularly does so. However, if that person casually asks a friend "would you like to try to qualify for this poker tournament with me?" and that friend's first reaction is "That sounds dumb" then yes, it's conceivable that the name may cause a casual player to not take the tournament seriously. If branding and promotion weren't important, we'd all aspire to owning Toyota Prius' for their excellent fuel economy. Instead, most aspire to owning a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. Branding is important and does make a difference. This tournament is an example of less than brilliant branding and it makes it tougher to promote. Worth posting about? I don't care. I chose to post about it. Posted by BorinLoner
I disagree with you, it's that simple
I have no wish to argue with you. Maybe the use of the word "pointless" offended you. If that's the case, then I apologise.
Be boring if everyone just agreed all the time.
I just don't think that the name matters one jot regarding entries.
Is it a good name? Is it a bad name? Couldn't care less. It is the name and it won't change and there will be plenty of reasons why it has been chosen
In Response to Re: What's in a name? : This has me intrigued, been wracking my brains to think of a really good reason... other than the obvious 'it does exactly what it says on the tin'. I don't actually think there's any problem with it, everyone will naturally shorten it themselves to something that rolls off the tongue in time anyway. Everyone just seems to be calling it UKPC which seems easy enough to me... same number of letters as WSOP. Posted by Lambert180
What type of reputation do sky poker players have?
I feel this thread has kinda run its course, but...
I think it's interesting that no-one has questioned the branding, and subsequent repetition, in the titles of OTHER major festivals, tours and TV shows. For example:
To be honest, I never knew the EPT or the WPT by the sponsored names, I thought they were just called the "European Poker Tour" and the "World Poker Tour"
It seems to be a matter which fixates some more than others.
In all the time I've been in poker, the name of a Tourney has never made me play it, or stopped me playing it. Poker players (in my experience) don't look at it that way, they look for structure, venue, value, Guarantee, camaradie with others, & mostly, an event which is well run, which they can maybe satellite into at a reasonable cost, & where some enjoyment is likely.
Sky Poker have a milion other things of more import - well, 500,101 more like - to concerrn themselves with on this Event, but the more noise the better, so if people want to diss the name, fair enough.
I hope to start a weekly Blog about the Event soon, with some of the backstory of how it was concieved, is getting on, & does, overall.
As long as the majority of those playing it enjoy the experience, we get enough runners, & it adds some credibility & profile to the Brand, we'll be very happy. So far, so good, the reaction right across the industry, & all poker Forums has been hugely positive. If the name is the only grounds for complaint, think we'd settle for that!
Keep the feedback coming, it's all good, even the bad.
Borat has just sorted this 'epic' problem out for all.
It will be now called....
The Poker channel called Sky Poker which used to be on 865 but are now on 861 who are a online poker site but sometimes do a live Poker games and will be holding an live event in February 2014 at the home of Poker in Nottinghamshire of the Englandshire in the day of two day ones and then play different formats for everybody's enjoyment of the game of Poker...........
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Meanwhile, BIG night tonight, with the 2nd of our weekly Finals, @ 9.15pm, there are 31 runners so far (6+ seats to Nottingham), plus a Semi Final at 7.15pm which has 16 entries with an hour to go plus Late Reg, so that is at least 3 more seats into the 9.15pm Final.
I hope you'll be amongst those trying a few Satellites, & good luck if you do.
Jac, starting threads about almost anything is pointless. Is there really much point in posting diaries of our progress in poker? Do any of the people reading them actually have any stake in us? Mostly not, I would think, however some find it interesting and that's the justification for us posting such things. This is interesting to me and obviously to others as well. Note the number of responses.
I have suggested there's an issue that could be easily mended and I have suggested a remedy. Clearly it's my opinion as it's me that is saying it. I don't think I need to spell that out with the words "In my opinion" unless I could possibly be mistaken for a representative of the British government or some other organisation. Mine is, though, an opinion clearly shared by a great many people.
While some have defended the reasoning behind the name, nobody on this thread has actually defended it by saying it's a good name. That's probably because most of us don't think it is a good name.
As for it being "dumb": well, I'm sorry but I think it is. A great many people I've spoken to think it is. It has no bearing on me. I lose nothing from it. It is, however, something which will hold back the event if it isn't changed. That simply can't be denied as there are people out there like me, thinking it's dumb. Maybe it's not a huge problem... but then my response was only to start a forum thread - a proportional response - and not to start a nationwide protest movement. Why not start a thread about it?
As I said earlier, I'm sure there were good reasons to select this name. However, those good motives have led to a bad result.
I won't bother posting on this thread again. However, the thread is entirely justified.
Nobody's saying it will stop any pros from playing or that this is a major problem...
It does, though, leave a bad first impression. If it puts off the odd recreational player, or makes the event more difficult to promote, then it does hold it back. It won't be the difference between £100k overlay or £100k extra in the prizepool, but why saddle it with a bad name when it can be easily fixed?
Did I say I wouldn't post on this thread again? Never mind.
If you disagree with opinions expressed, then make your arguments. The thread might not be important but, if you think so, just ignore it.
The whole point is that the name is not a good one. Clearly it isn't. You are not disputing that, yourself.
Have I spoken to a great many people about this? I suppose that depends on what you count as a great many. Clearly there are quite a few people on this thread and others who agree with me and I've discussed it briefly with some others. Does that amount to hundreds or thousands? Obviously not. Would a better phrase have been "quite a few"? Maybe so. I'll leave that for you to decide.
Might it put off the odd player? Well not someone who's already planning to go and play a big tournament or regularly does so. However, if that person casually asks a friend "would you like to try to qualify for this poker tournament with me?" and that friend's first reaction is "That sounds dumb" then yes, it's conceivable that the name may cause a casual player to not take the tournament seriously.
If branding and promotion weren't important, we'd all aspire to owning Toyota Prius' for their excellent fuel economy. Instead, most aspire to owning a Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. Branding is important and does make a difference. This tournament is an example of less than brilliant branding and it makes it tougher to promote.
Worth posting about? I don't care. I chose to post about it.
Bazinga
BL, i agree with you about the name not being very catchy, but doubt it will have an impact on numbers.
In the main whatever it is called, the vast majority of the players will be from outside of Sky.
name is fine
what about
Sky Poker UK Series Of Poker
SPUSOP
It seems to be a matter which fixates some more than others.
In all the time I've been in poker, the name of a Tourney has never made me play it, or stopped me playing it. Poker players (in my experience) don't look at it that way, they look for structure, venue, value, Guarantee, camaradie with others, & mostly, an event which is well run, which they can maybe satellite into at a reasonable cost, & where some enjoyment is likely.
Sky Poker have a milion other things of more import - well, 500,101 more like - to concerrn themselves with on this Event, but the more noise the better, so if people want to diss the name, fair enough.
I hope to start a weekly Blog about the Event soon, with some of the backstory of how it was concieved, is getting on, & does, overall.
As long as the majority of those playing it enjoy the experience, we get enough runners, & it adds some credibility & profile to the Brand, we'll be very happy. So far, so good, the reaction right across the industry, & all poker Forums has been hugely positive. If the name is the only grounds for complaint, think we'd settle for that!
Keep the feedback coming, it's all good, even the bad.