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A sick conclusion to Tuesdays main!

a00rocka00rock Member Posts: 832
edited December 2013 in Poker Chat
As it goes heads up the player with nearly a 2 to 1 chip lead gets disconnected. 10 mins later he is blinded out and is potentially a grand out of pocket. We know this happens and the winner did nothing wrong but it is still sick.
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  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited December 2013
    Disconned in a turbo. 

    Ouch.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2013
    That is pretty sick. Have to say I'm definitely blind stealing there with the money at stake and how short stacks are unless I know the opponent very well.
  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited December 2013
    Did they show it on 861? 

    Would you be stealing if they were debating it in the studio?
  • a00rocka00rock Member Posts: 832
    edited December 2013
    They showed the last couple of hands there was no mention of the disconnection.
  • thebil123thebil123 Member Posts: 99
    edited December 2013
    Yeh very unlucky, that would of tilted me for a few months.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited December 2013
    Ouch, that's gotta hurt!

    I would definiately be blind stealing also, unless I knew the player really well that is.
  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited December 2013
    That is sick , and is exactly why we have been asking in the feedback area for disconnection protection, but sky are more interested in maknig the software available for ipads before starting on that.
  • DiminuendoDiminuendo Member Posts: 222
    edited December 2013
    It is sick yes but like a few have said "do unto others etc etc"

    Would do the same myself and would expect no less from anyone else
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main!:
    That is sick , and is exactly why we have been asking in the feedback area for disconnection protection, but sky are more interested in maknig the software available for ipads before starting on that.
    Posted by DoubleAAA
    disconnection protection - how would that work? I've heard of it before on another site I used to play on years back, but never experienced it myself ..
  • DoubleAAADoubleAAA Member Posts: 954
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main!:
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main! : disconnection protection - how would that work? I've heard of it before on another site I used to play on years back, but never experienced it myself ..
    Posted by peter27

    If someone has disconnected it will give like 3 mins or so to allow them the chance to re-connect.  If they still have not reconnected then it will jsut sit them out until they arrive back and the game will continue.  In a HU situation they should actually increase this to 5-10 mins depending on buy in etc in my opinion as that's when the most money is up for play.

    For cash game it works I think whereby a player will have like 1 disconnection protection every 3 hrs or so ( I might be wrong with the duration for cash)
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,308
    edited December 2013
    I don,t know about anyone else but i,ve been having some disconnection issues tonight. 

    Luckily nothing like the runner up of the main but its strange in that it happens on only 1 table when other tables are working fine and i can also write in the chatbox but its still showing me as away. I couldn,t disconnect as it would have affected my other games in which they were further on with higher blinds so wasn,t worth it. Ended up just shutting that one table down and after a few attempts it finally brought up the "I am back" box which i just clicked on to carry on playing

    This has happened a few times recently where it has just been 1 table so the disconnection protection wouldn,t have benefited me anyway 

    ( I,m sure someone will say go to customer services but it takes up to much time and they haven,t resolved any previous issues so i,ve given up with that)
  • kidwiz10kidwiz10 Member Posts: 569
    edited December 2013
    As lambert pointed out with the money at stake i would be pressing "raise" as quick as i could , i would expect the same done to me but musta bene a killer having that happen.
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited December 2013

    This comes up every so often.  I have very strong feelings on the matter.  I have been in the spot of the connected person on three occasions on this site HU at the end of a MTT.  Each time I gave them time to return and they did, one had repeated disconnections and I just sat out and waited each time.  A thread was made on at least one of the occasions, maybe two but it was a while ago now.  If anyone feels moved to search for them feel free, if not you'll just have to take my word for it.

    All the times before when this sort of thread has come up I have said I do not condemn the people who hammer the bet button.  That it is there choice and I can understand why they do that.  In truth while I do understand it, I was merely holding my tongue.  I utterly condemn it.  It is base.  It is classless.  It is without honour.  It is the wolf of cowardly greed dressed in the guise of 'That's poker, he would do it to me etc etc.'

    I'm sure we will get the usual standard replies.  That the other person would do the same to us.  That we have bills to pay, pros have families to provide for, everyone is feeling the pinch right now and so on and so forth.  I just have one question in reply to that.

    Are we not better than that?

    Someone has to blink first and trust first.  If I was disconnected I would hope I would receive the same actions which I have given.  It has happened to me, in the past the vast majority of times they have smashed the bet button (mainly on another huge site).  Maybe I have this attitude because my father taught me the game and many games from a very old school angle.  I don't know, maybe it's because I read the Lord of the Rings Trilogy when I was eleven.  It doesn't matter.  I just have hope in people that they can drag themselves above the pigswill of base greed.  Now you may say that the whole point of the game is to win money from another and of course you will be right.  It's a game based on wits and hoodwinking.  However there is a strong code of honour at the very heart of it.  All is fair in terms of deception 'on the field' but an act of cheating is seen as dishonourable and completely abhorrent.  At least it was when I was taught the game.

    Yes that all sounds utterly pompous I admit it.  But that is how I feel.  When it happens again I will allow the person a generous amount of leave to return while clicking the sat out button.  And when it's the other way around and I get my blinds stolen away, my former position still will not change.

  • DiminuendoDiminuendo Member Posts: 222
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main!:
    This comes up every so often.  I have very strong feelings on the matter.  I have been in the spot of the connected person on three occasions on this site HU at the end of a MTT.  Each time I gave them time to return and they did, one had repeated disconnections and I just sat out and waited each time.  A thread was made on at least one of the occasions, maybe two but it was a while ago now.  If anyone feels moved to search for them feel free, if not you'll just have to take my word for it. All the times before when this sort of thread has come up I have said I do not condemn the people who hammer the bet button.  That it is there choice and I can understand why they do that.  In truth while I do understand it, I was merely holding my tongue.  I utterly condemn it.  It is base.  It is classless.  It is without honour.  It is the wolf of cowardly greed dressed in the guise of 'That's poker, he would do it to me etc etc.' I'm sure we will get the usual standard replies.  That the other person would do the same to us.  That we have bills to pay, pros have families to provide for, everyone is feeling the pinch right now and so on and so forth.  I just have one question in reply to that. Are we not better than that? Someone has to blink first and trust first.  If I was disconnected I would hope I would receive the same actions which I have given.  It has happened to me, in the past the vast majority of times they have smashed the bet button (mainly on another huge site).  Maybe I have this attitude because my father taught me the game and many games from a very old school angle.  I don't know, maybe it's because I read the Lord of the Rings Trilogy when I was eleven.  It doesn't matter.  I just have hope in people that they can drag themselves above the pigswill of base greed.  Now you may say that the whole point of the game is to win money from another and of course you will be right.  It's a game based on wits and hoodwinking.  However there is a strong code of honour at the very heart of it.  All is fair in terms of deception 'on the field' but an act of cheating is seen as dishonourable and completely abhorrent.  At least it was when I was taught the game. Yes that all sounds utterly pompous I admit it.  But that is how I feel.  When it happens again I will allow the person a generous amount of leave to return while clicking the sat out button.  And when it's the other way around and I get my blinds stolen away, my former position still will not change.
    Posted by TommyD
    I applaud your take on things mate and believe every word of it

    I used to feel exactly the same but i lost count of how many times it happened to me over the years only to reconnect and see all of my stack gone.

    In all honesty that was on a site where i might only ever see the odd same face every few days because there were so many players on it and i can honestly say that if it were to happen on here v players i mostly see everyday i would take your approach to it (and would hope to get the same courtesy in return from players who new me.)

    But v a new face and someone who i had never seen before i would give them the time for their first blind to reconnect then wait no more because thats exactly what i would expect if the tables were turned.

    Your right though mate the whole thing leaves a bitter taste no matter what and its just one of those things all online players have to deal with one way or another over time.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,881
    edited December 2013

    I might just have fallen in love with TommyD.

    Tommy - are you spoken for? 

    You & me, how about it? We could have babies, & everything.  
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited December 2013
    i was watching the end of an mtt the other night, and while 3-handed one got disconnnected. i was rather disheartened to see one of the other two type in the chat box "blind him out". it was with some relief that the other did not reply and seemed happy to take him on.

    i don't know how it ended as i couldn't bring myself to watch it.
  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker Member Posts: 2,715
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main!:
    That is sick , and is exactly why we have been asking in the feedback area for disconnection protection, but sky are more interested in maknig the software available for ipads before starting on that.
    Posted by DoubleAAA
    Just to be clear, this would have not made a real difference given the length of time the player was away.
  • SnufferSnuffer Member Posts: 3,057
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main!:
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main! : If someone has disconnected it will give like 3 mins or so to allow them the chance to re-connect.  If they still have not reconnected then it will jsut sit them out until they arrive back and the game will continue.  In a HU situation they should actually increase this to 5-10 mins depending on buy in etc in my opinion as that's when the most money is up for play. For cash game it works I think whereby a player will have like 1 disconnection protection every 3 hrs or so ( I might be wrong with the duration for cash)
    Posted by DoubleAAA
    On another site I play it only works for cash games. If you we're say playing the flop for example and you raised and got disconnected the other player can only call what you have bet effectively keeping you in the hand as if you were all in with the rest of your cash safe. As this can be manipulated to your advantage in some cases, you were only allowed 2 a day.
  • ms-treems-tree Member Posts: 889
    edited December 2013

    I 2nd Tommy’s comments here, playing many hu, when in need of toilet break, I would say a need loo break, most of time players do sit out until I say I am back, this is not always the case though 9as i would and do if player needed loo break), if a player sits out for more than 5mins, then I do hit bet button, I allow 5mins for a player to sit back on table, as I feel this is enough time to re-boot modem/computer.

    With a lot of different internet provider's out there, there will always be problems when running deep in a long mtt; I found this out myself when playing last night, after being disconnected for 35mins. (Internet provider's provide NO help with this too lol)

    With many of us relying on the wonders of the internet, this issue will always be there for all of us at some point, how you want to play it tho is down to individual players.

    Gl all at the tables.

  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited December 2013
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main!:
    In Response to Re: A sick conclusion to tonights main! : If someone has disconnected it will give like 3 mins or so to allow them the chance to re-connect.  If they still have not reconnected then it will jsut sit them out until they arrive back and the game will continue.  In a HU situation they should actually increase this to 5-10 mins depending on buy in etc in my opinion as that's when the most money is up for play. For cash game it works I think whereby a player will have like 1 disconnection protection every 3 hrs or so ( I might be wrong with the duration for cash)
    Posted by DoubleAAA
    That seems like a fairly efficient solution, can't see a downside to be honest?

    Very impressed by the guys who said they would wait until the other player is back, extremely noble! Kind of restores my faith in humanity somewhat :-) Would be curious to ask those players what their bankroll is though, would winning say a MTT make a massive difference to your bankroll?
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