I am a little concerned with your suggestion that we are annalists though. I rather prefer A nalysts , though I suppose some may think you were correct.....;) Posted by Tikay10
I actually sprayed coffee all over my laptop screen when i read this about 10 mins ago lol.
Anyone can be a good analyiser when u see the hole cards, dont rate his play at all, notice no one defending Tikay!! Posted by Tuddy16
First Tuddy, hello and welcome
You are of course entitled to your opinion. Here is mine. Both Tikay and Ryan are fantastic as analysts on the 861 channel. There is so much more to it than you realise. The audience are an array of new/beginner poker plays, recreational poker plays and some who take it more seriously. They have to entertain and inform this broad spectrum while 'selling' the product of SkyPoker. By selling I mean attract interest to future events on the SkyPoker schedule as well as immediate events found in the lobby at that time. Like I said, I think both are fantastic at it. I would also rate both as poker players hugely.
The part I put in bold, that did give me a chuckle I confess. That's a bit like saying anyone can read an autocue (watch Have I Got News For You on a regular basis to see examples of how this is wrong). In many ways you don't see how good someone like Tikay or Ryan is until you see someone who isn't very good at it. Luckily it seems the good folks Presently on SkyPoker TV, or 'talent,' as they are described, are all very good at their jobs.
Finally for now, just my opinion but I think you started this thread to get a reaction and have a personal dig rather than have an honest debate. In that case you have succeeded but I must suggest to you directly it may be of benefit to you on a personal level to find more soul affirming and classy ways to entertain yourself.
In Response to Re: Hosts : Yes, I absolutely agree he is entitled to his opinion, & I'll reply to him shortly. I am a little concerned with your suggestion that we are annalists though. I rather prefer A nalysts , though I suppose some may think you were correct.....;) Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: Hosts : well said rainman! think that is 1st rude comment i have ever seen from you. p.s thanks for the good wishes the other day. all the best Posted by churchy18
I couldnt help myself, i dont like rudeness in people. It wasnt only rude but very ignorant. Congratulations for the other day. All the best. Rainman397.
I have probably played more hands on this site than anyone. Throughout the years I have played against quite a few of the analysts. Some are good and surprisingly some are really poor.
Out of all of them I have played Ryan is the best. I am not biased at all, I have never met the guy and probably never will.
I have been a guest on the show before and it was surprisingly tiring and I was only chipping in with bits every so often. I cant comment on his presenting skills as I rarely watch the channel these days. However, as a player he is better than all other analysts.
In Response to Re: Hosts : I couldnt help myself, i dont like rudeness in people. It wasnt only rude but very ignorant. Congratulations for the other day. All the best. Rainman397. Posted by rainman397
you know the rainmans upset when he dosent follow up his telling off with a would you like to play the £2.20 deepstack at 2.20? no coming back you've crossed the line and you're not welcome to play!!! :-)
In Response to Re: Hosts : you know the rainmans upset when he dosent follow up his telling off with a would you like to play the £2.20 deepstack at 2.20? no coming back you've crossed the line and you're not welcome to play!!! :-) Posted by THEROCK573
Rainman wouldn't have done that deal! He would have put those 2 upstarts properly back in their place. All the best Jac35
Im a regular player and watcher of sky poker, so can anyone tell me why they have so called experts like Tikay and ryan spittles analyising hands when they clearly arnt good enough to say what we should be doing? Tikay openly admits he is not a NLHE player and Ryan spittles is no better than the rest of us!! Watched him on sky poker cash game live play and he is awful, just my opinion mind Posted by Tuddy16
Just checked your stats.... They are both better than you, and me, and most of the players on here
I think it's obvious that the guy in OP was just trying to cause an argument but...
With regards to Tikay, he clearly is a pretty good player but as a teacher I can say that it's not always the cleverest people that make the best teachers. Often the most qualified people are poor teachers because they basically can't explain things well to people who don't find a particular subject easy to learn.
I think the same applies to poker, I don't think Tikay could teach Phil Ivey much but for the rest of us he can explain why he would play in a certain way, logically. Add in the fact he's a funny old duffer, and then you have an entertaining show!
I think it's obvious that the guy in OP was just trying to cause an argument but... With regards to Tikay, he clearly is a pretty good player but as a teacher I can say that it's not always the cleverest people that make the best teachers. Often the most qualified people are poor teachers because they basically can't explain things well to people who don't find a particular subject easy to learn. I think the same applies to poker, I don't think Tikay could teach Phil Ivey much but for the rest of us he can explain why he would play in a certain way, logically. Add in the fact he's a funny old duffer, and then you have an entertaining show! Posted by jonnyrkd
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Edit.. just for the record.. An Annalist is someone who keeps year by year, historical records. Just so folks don't misinterpret the meaning lol.
You are of course entitled to your opinion. Here is mine. Both Tikay and Ryan are fantastic as analysts on the 861 channel. There is so much more to it than you realise. The audience are an array of new/beginner poker plays, recreational poker plays and some who take it more seriously. They have to entertain and inform this broad spectrum while 'selling' the product of SkyPoker. By selling I mean attract interest to future events on the SkyPoker schedule as well as immediate events found in the lobby at that time. Like I said, I think both are fantastic at it. I would also rate both as poker players hugely.
The part I put in bold, that did give me a chuckle I confess. That's a bit like saying anyone can read an autocue (watch Have I Got News For You on a regular basis to see examples of how this is wrong). In many ways you don't see how good someone like Tikay or Ryan is until you see someone who isn't very good at it. Luckily it seems the good folks Presently on SkyPoker TV, or 'talent,' as they are described, are all very good at their jobs.
Finally for now, just my opinion but I think you started this thread to get a reaction and have a personal dig rather than have an honest debate. In that case you have succeeded but I must suggest to you directly it may be of benefit to you on a personal level to find more soul affirming and classy ways to entertain yourself.
i agree with the OP.
ah sorry, typo, i disagree with the OP.
think that is 1st rude comment i have ever seen from you.
p.s thanks for the good wishes the other day.
all the best
It wasnt only rude but very ignorant.
Congratulations for the other day.
All the best.
Rainman397.
Out of all of them I have played Ryan is the best. I am not biased at all, I have never met the guy and probably never will.
I have been a guest on the show before and it was surprisingly tiring and I was only chipping in with bits every so often. I cant comment on his presenting skills as I rarely watch the channel these days. However, as a player he is better than all other analysts.
He would have put those 2 upstarts properly back in their place.
All the best
Jac35
WHAT?
Behave!