In Response to Re: UKPC hints - Live etiquette : Not a silly questionat all Dunmidosh - in live tournaments, there is no limit to how long you may leave the table for. Your blinds and antes will be posted, and when they run out, you will be eliminated. Posted by CoxyLboro
This exactly - you can stay away as long as you wish, as long as you have chips remaining you will still be considered part of the tournament. There are numerous examples of people leaving tournaments after day 1 for example and still making the cash because there chips remain in play.
Glad you found it 5ky, this was off the back of your thread! I don't want to theme this as a 'rulebook' but everything I've written is for the benefit of everyone at the table and definitely remove potential problems from surfacing, making your live experience significantly more fun
One little thing about antes - put them so that the dealer can easily reach them. Often people just put them right on the line and the dealer has to stuggle to get them!
Headphones - perfectly fine to chill but I'd really recommend not using them and talking to people.
Chips - I often see new live players make mistakes and bet 1k rather than 100. Just keep all the different denomiations in seperate stacks. And it's been covered before but to make life easier for everyone just verberally declare your bet and then there can be no confusion.
By far the biggest/most common mistakes live noobs make are
--String betting - As lombo said - all chips need to go down together, otherwise the bet stands as the first chip that hit the felt.
--Acting out of turn.
--placing a single high value chip as a bet, indending to raise to the value of the chip - As the OP said, 1 chip = call, regardless of the chips value.
--betting with the wrong value chips - so, accidentally raising to 5000 instead of 500. for example, I pick up my 5000 chip, and announce raise as i put it in the middle. If you dont announce the value of your raise, it counts as a raise to 5000. When I want to bet less than the value of a single chip, I always announce the raise size while holding the chip over the middle, then release the chip when I see the dealer acknowledge my raise amount.
One other point I'm not sure anyone has explained properly, but has been touched apon, is showdown of hands. Often there is a situation where both players are slightly embarassed by their holdings and neither wants to turn over until the other does... The rule is that the last aggressor has to show first. If you call a bet on the river, you are perfectly within your rights to wait for the villain to show their hand first. Especially if you are unsure you are ahead.
My guidance on the topic would be:
If you are pretty sure you have the best hand, just turn it over straight away, even if you arent the last aggressor. no need to slowroll.
If you are the last aggressor, just show your hand straight away. even if its a bluff - just proudly turn over your 6 high - there is nothing wrong with bluffing. Just remember your table image has probably changed a bit.
If you are unsure who has the best hand, and are not the last agressor, wait for the last aggressor to show their hand first. you can get valuable information from seeing their hand, and prevent them from getting valuable information from you if they just muck (which means you dont have to show either)
all of this advice from everyone might sounds like alot to take in/quite daunting...having been to DTD many times, I can say that the dealers will be able to spot you are a noob, and will help you as much as possible.
If the dealers do pull you up on something though, dont be rude about it, they are doing their best to make it fun for everyone. most of the dealers are actaully very friendly there and will respond to banter,
very interesting especially to a live a novice like myself, nice post coxy and the rest of you who have chipped in with help, im determined to play a few live events this year, i have a little question, i know its very simple and sounds a bit thick but how do you announce your raise size correctly???
say for instance villain1 raises to 300 if i then wanted to put a 3bet in and put in 900 chips would i say raise too 900 or just say raise 600 more?
very interesting especially to a live a novice like myself, nice post coxy and the rest of you who have chipped in with help, im determined to play a few live events this year, i have a little question, i know its very simple and sounds a bit thick but how do you announce your raise size correctly??? say for instance villain1 raises to 300 if i then wanted to put a 3bet in and put in 900 chips would i say raise too 900 or just say raise 600 more? Posted by THEROCK573
very interesting especially to a live a novice like myself, nice post coxy and the rest of you who have chipped in with help, im determined to play a few live events this year, i have a little question, i know its very simple and sounds a bit thick but how do you announce your raise size correctly??? say for instance villain1 raises to 300 if i then wanted to put a 3bet in and put in 900 chips would i say raise too 900 or just say raise 600 more? Posted by THEROCK573
very interesting especially to a live a novice like myself, nice post coxy and the rest of you who have chipped in with help, im determined to play a few live events this year, i have a little question, i know its very simple and sounds a bit thick but how do you announce your raise size correctly??? say for instance villain1 raises to 300 if i then wanted to put a 3bet in and put in 900 chips would i say raise too 900 or just say raise 600 more? Posted by THEROCK573
pretty sure you can do either as long as you say it but its way easier for yourself and everyone else to just say 'raise TO x'
very interesting especially to a live a novice like myself, nice post coxy and the rest of you who have chipped in with help, im determined to play a few live events this year, i have a little question, i know its very simple and sounds a bit thick but how do you announce your raise size correctly??? say for instance villain1 raises to 300 if i then wanted to put a 3bet in and put in 900 chips would i say raise too 900 or just say raise 600 more? Posted by THEROCK573
Just announce 'raise' and then put your chips in, in one motion. The dealer will count how much extra you've raised.
In Response to Re: UKPC hints - Live etiquette : I make it 900 to go I make it 900 total Posted by Tikay10
when did you last hear someone under the age of 50 say that?
as long as you make it clear, I dont think it will be an issue. What I would say though, is people dont normally use the "600 more" approach, the amount the normally announce is the total bet amount.
I'm lazy...so I tend to use as few words as possible...
On the subject of showdown of hands, this can be a bit of a slow process sometimes, I'm in no rush to expose a weak holding if I don't need to, likewise I'm keen not to be seen to be holding up game flow. In this situation I tend to look at the aggressor and wait for them to say something, if the say 1 pair and I can beat it I just turn my cards over, if I also have one pair I will respond immediately by saying 1 pair and wait for him to declare his hand, if it beats me I'll say you're good and wait for him to turn his cards over before mucking mine, if I'm ahead I'll immediately turn my cards over to claim the pot.
On the subject of showdown of hands, this can be a bit of a slow process sometimes, I'm in no rush to expose a weak holding if I don't need to, likewise I'm keen not to be seen to be holding up game flow. In this situation I tend to look at the aggressor and wait for them to say something, if the say 1 pair and I can beat it I just turn my cards over, if I also have one pair I will respond immediately by saying 1 pair and wait for him to declare his hand, if it beats me I'll say you're good and wait for him to turn his cards over before mucking mine, if I'm ahead I'll immediately turn my cards over to claim the pot. Posted by Slykllist
yes, the problem is when both players just sit and wait for the other player to turn over.
i would strongly suggest, if you are the last aggressor, just to flip your cards over straight away. even if its a stone cold bluff. there is nothing wrong with getting caught bluffing - proudly turn over the bluff - it shows you aren't afraid to make bold moves and you can always use it to your advantage in the future to help you get paid.
On the subject of showdown of hands, this can be a bit of a slow process sometimes, I'm in no rush to expose a weak holding if I don't need to, likewise I'm keen not to be seen to be holding up game flow. In this situation I tend to look at the aggressor and wait for them to say something, if the say 1 pair and I can beat it I just turn my cards over, if I also have one pair I will respond immediately by saying 1 pair and wait for him to declare his hand, if it beats me I'll say you're good and wait for him to turn his cards over before mucking mine, if I'm ahead I'll immediately turn my cards over to claim the pot. Posted by Slykllist
The answer to this Simon, is to always have the nuts
Try not to drool on the chips as the nice young ladies serve the tables.
Also, Mr Spittles touched upon it, but some dealers struggle to reach antes/bets/folded hands. Make their lives that little bit easier by putting whatever action close enough so they can scoop it without having to turn into Stretch Armstrong.
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awesome!
I wasn't too sure about these rules so all the advice helps. Thanks a Coxy
I make it 900 total