hi everyone, just a quick question, earlier i was playing on a cash game 10p 20p stakes sitting with £20 and somone came and sat down and begin to raise EVERY hand and just 3 bet everytime you raised, i ended up picking up QQ so i 4 bet pre and it was no shock they jammed, i snapped and they had AK and hit a K
this always seems to be the case why do donkeys always get paid?
i would like to hear your thoughts or advice on how you would deal with someone like this without standing?
I AM NOT SAYING THIS GUY IS A DONKY BECAUSE OF THE AK QQ HAND JUST THE FACT HE WANTS TO GET IT IN EVERY HAND REGARDLES OF HIS HAND!
In Response to Re: donky alert! : because he was raising EVERY HAND he just seem to have the goods at the right time Posted by hahagutted
If you only caught him with AK - and he was doing it with junk every other hand - that's just unlucky, but it hardly makes him a traditional poker donkey just because he raises. Raising is what poker players do.
In Response to Re: donky alert! : If you only caught him with AK - and he was doing it with junk every other hand - that's just unlucky, but it hardly makes him a traditional poker donkey just because he raises. Raising is what poker players do. Posted by Slipwater
omg this is so fustrating to get accross he was playing bingo not poker i caught him out about 3 times before he was showing 57 off n 82 and things like that raising or 3 betting with them EVERY...single hand he was far from a poker player, if you think there is nothing wrong with his game then good luck in your poker career
In Response to Re: donky alert! : omg this is so fustrating to get accross he was playing bingo not poker i caught him out about 3 times before he was showing 57 off n 82 and things like that raising or 3 betting with them EVERY...single hand he was far from a poker player, if you think there is nothing wrong with his game then good luck in your poker career Posted by hahagutted
my point is when i eventually pick up a real hand against an obvios DONKEY he picks up AK wich is unlucky
I don't get your question then - he raises a lot but the time you get a good hand to play back at him he also has a hand. and?! it's a little unlucky for you (and him) that you both have big hands but just because he's a maniac doesn't mean he cant pick up good hands. Just read that back and it sounds a bit abrupt - it isn't meant to so please don't take it the wrong way. Posted by jdsallstar
my question is how do you deal with a person that is not playing poker, just raising every hand and 3 betting every raise regardles of there hand thers maniacs in poker then there is idiots. is it best to waite for a hand then get it in like i did or just leave the table and go play on anouther, i guess you had to be on the table to know what i mean every other player was saying the same on the table that he was just somone gambling trying to get it in every hand then got really lucky when i actually picked up a hand
Simple answer is nothing much you can do (apart from leave the table) It might be the way he plays or that some people like a gamble... and to be to be honest I have no problem with these guys and you shouldn't really. If a guy is re raising your big hands its happy days... and even more happy days if he's doing it with rubbish cards You were just unlucky the time you had QQ he actually had a hand...
Saying all that I can be a bit of a hypocrite because I hate calling stations... A guy can shove all in vs me pre flop with any two card and win and I wont mind but if he calls me down with rags and hits I fume haha I seem to be able to deal with all in opponents better than calling stations...
End of the day you want to play your big hands vs both... you just need to remember its cards and anything can happen (which is hard) :-)
Suppose it's just a case of waiting for the right spots and making a stand at some stage! I'm not very good lol but I'd open up my 3 bet calling range and I'd 4 bet him more (with the right hands). If you don't want to get into a battle with him then just wait for big hands that crush his range (like you did).
Maniacs are tough to play against and you might have to allow yourself to get bluffed a few times to wait for the right spot but in long run it should be easier to get paid off.
Like Clinton said I prefer playing aggressive people than stations and just have to be prepared when you do get your stack in against them they can and will get lucky.
If this guy is a donkey and playing bad poker, surely it should be REAL easy to take money off him? If you don't actually know how to play against his style then maybe he's not the one that's a donkey - he's just exploiting the fact that everyone at the table doesn't have a clue how to play against him.
Try playing like that yourself and see how annoying it is for the rest of the table...
Leave the table is pretty poor advice with the greatest of respect. Reload and go again. Think the expression is "burning money" if you were to leave. You've put yourself across very poorly in this thread. I'm rather pleased you did lose the hand if you and the others on the table were abusing him. It also shows a distinct lack of poker intelligence on your part. Posted by Jac35
who said anything about abuse??? dont comment if your going to make a massive deal about it all i asked is advise for playing against bingo players
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ludo is a far better game.
Did he admit to being a shill under questioning??
If not probably a bot
it's a little unlucky for you (and him) that you both have big hands but just because he's a maniac doesn't mean he cant pick up good hands.
Just read that back and it sounds a bit abrupt - it isn't meant to so please don't take it the wrong way.
3. Value bet more.
3. If possible move to his left.
4. Don't compromise your own capital because you're desperate to get paid.
You were just unlucky the time you had QQ he actually had a hand...
Saying all that I can be a bit of a hypocrite because I hate calling stations... A guy can shove all in vs me pre flop with any two card and win and I wont mind but if he calls me down with rags and hits I fume haha I seem to be able to deal with all in opponents better than calling stations...
End of the day you want to play your big hands vs both... you just need to remember its cards and anything can happen (which is hard) :-)
Maniacs are tough to play against and you might have to allow yourself to get bluffed a few times to wait for the right spot but in long run it should be easier to get paid off.
Like Clinton said I prefer playing aggressive people than stations and just have to be prepared when you do get your stack in against them they can and will get lucky.