Happy Days Promotion

jdsallstar

Not exactly fair on the sng players who have been grinding all month trying to get into the ps4 leaderboard is it?

I'm not even close to getting on to the leaderboard but i know a few fellas on the sng tables who have been grinding like mad and i dont think this is fair at all.

Lambert180

Very good point.

I'm a cash player myself like but this is massively unfair on the DYM grinders that have been playing all month to get in the top 50/top 10 imo

CrazyBen23

And there was me thinking cash players get  6pts to mtt/sng players 10pts for every quid raked

Unknown

Poorly thought out to run this alongside a points race leaderboard

FCHD

Yes, it's a very good promotion for cash players, but perhaps poorly timed as it moves the goalposts in the PS4 leaderboard. (Saying this as someone completely unaffected, both because I don't play cash and am not in the chase for the PS4 list)

TheRevenge

oh yeh this is fantastic .... NOT !!!

grinded my a$$ off best i can to stay in with a chance of just getting a freeroll seat in the ongoing PS4 promo as there is no way a top10 is in my range and now some bright spark has come up with an idea for all the cash game players to fly past all the SNG grinders on the leaderboard by running another promo to conflict with the ongoing one . i dont think this p34 promo is fair atall , cash game players get 3 happy hours a day as it is which already gives them a huge advantage over sng players , this happy days weekend should be scrapped unless you are are willing to lose all your sng grinders for the future . i will continue to grind best i can to retain my seat but i can guarantee if i lose out come the end of the month i will be off this site and wont be coming back untill i see some fairness between cash and sng players which there is none of at the moment !!

1267

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Poorly thought out to run this alongside a points race leaderboard
Posted by CoxyLboro

+1

Absolutely ridiculous. 

Anyone who has to work this weekend is at a massive disadvantage after grinding all month, without any warning. Joke 

jordz16

I dont see anything wrong with the promotion as such, but this should have been pointed out before the start of the PS4 promo.. I can't believe they thought this would be a good idea to interfere with an ongoing promotion. I myself am mainly a MTT player so never gave this much of a go but if you are going to move the goalpoasts mid way through a promotion then you should at least reward all 3 formats in the same way. If I had been grinding DYM's all month, which isn't an enjoyable thing to do, then i would be gutted to see this promotion appear so close to the end of the month.

rancid

Sky wins/end thread

TheRevenge

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Sky wins/end thread
Posted by rancid

yes they do but at what cost ? every SNG and DYM grinder is likely to jump ship after this , i will be if i do not start seeing some equality in the way different grinders are treated . 

cash game players seem to get all the benefits as is being shown right here + 3 hours a day when they can accumilate a ton of points .

MTT players get free seats to all sorts via twitter and forum

SNG/DYM what do we get .... SHAFTED !!

ajs4385

Is this a wind up or are the Im not good enough to play cash players, sorry I mean tournament players really that stupid.

Cash players get 6 points per pound and occasionally 9 points where as tournament players get 10 points all the time.

I really cant decide if its stupidity or a wind up. What does everyone else think?

Barlicker

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Very good point. I'm a cash player myself like but this is massively unfair on the DYM grinders that have been playing all month to get in the top 50/top 10 imo
Posted by Lambert180

 +1

jordz16

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Is this a wind up or are the Im not good enough to play cash players, sorry I mean tournament players really that stupid. Cash players get 6 points per pound and occasionally 9 points where as tournament players get 10 points all the time. I really cant decide if its stupidity or a wind up. What does everyone else think?
Posted by ajs4385

i hope this is a level??

if not..

looks like you are just looking for a reason to put down the majority of sky players as opposed to dealing with the point of the original post.

poor form imo

jdsallstar

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Is this a wind up or are the Im not good enough to play cash players, sorry I mean tournament players really that stupid. Cash players get 6 points per pound and occasionally 9 points where as tournament players get 10 points all the time. I really cant decide if its stupidity or a wind up. What does everyone else think?
Posted by ajs4385

Its irrelevant what way points are normally allocated for both cash and sng's etc, although I've argued in previous points it's not as simple as you show it as, it's irrelevant because when people decided they would go for this promotion they did so believing the current points system would be used throughout. Some of these guys have played over 1000 games to go for this promotion that was started 21 days before this new promotion was added. Would these same players put the same volume in knowing this would added in the last week of the promo period? I don't think they would.

Jac35

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oh yeh this is fantastic .... NOT !!! grinded my a$$ off best i can to stay in with a chance of just getting a freeroll seat in the ongoing PS4 promo as there is no way a top10 is in my range and now some bright spark has come up with an idea for all the cash game players to fly past all the SNG grinders on the leaderboard by running another promo to conflict with the ongoing one . i dont think this p34 promo is fair atall , cash game players get 3 happy hours a day as it is which already gives them a huge advantage over sng players , this happy days weekend should be scrapped unless you are are willing to lose all your sng grinders for the future . i will continue to grind best i can to retain my seat but i can guarantee if i lose out come the end of the month i will be off this site and wont be coming back untill i see some fairness between cash and sng players which there is none of at the moment !!
Posted by TheRevenge

This is so short-sighted from Sky that it defies belief. Yes, they will make plenty of rake this weekend but at what cost? The idea of the promotion for the PS4 is, I assume to get the regular grinders to play more but even more so, to attract grinders from elsewhere.

Maybe they will like what they see and stay. 

TheRevenge may have been a perfect example of this. He started the promotion and got involved with the community. Someone who could have been a great addition to Sky. Now, understandably, he feels let down. After the promotion has finished, it's highly unlikely that we will see him again.

I myself had a go at the promotion initially. I soon realised that I couldn't keep up with the cash grinders. I settled for a place in the top 50. There's a decent chance that I may slip out of it now. I won't be leaving Sky. Generally I'm pretty happy to play my poker here. I am disappointed though.

We may well hear something like "you've all jumped the gun and we have a great Dym bonus coming soon" The trouble is it will have no credibilty. Any Dym promo should have run concurrently with the cash one.

jordz16

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In Response to Re: Happy Days Promotion : This is so short-sighted from Sky that it defies belief. Yes, they will make plenty of rake this weekend but at what cost? The idea of the promotion for the PS4 is, I assume to get the regular grinders to play more but even more so, to attract grinders from elsewhere. Maybe they will like what they see and stay.  TheRevenge may have been a perfect example of this. He started the promotion and got involved with the community. Someone who could have been a great addition to Sky. Now, understandably, he feels let down. After the promotion has finished, it's highly unlikely that we will see him again. I myself had a go at the promotion initially. I soon realised that I couldn't keep up with the cash grinders. I settled for a place in the top 50. There's a decent chance that I may slip out of it now. I won't be leaving Sky. Generally I'm pretty happy to play my poker here. I am disappointed though. We may well hear something like "you've all jumped the gun and we have a great Dym bonus coming soon" The trouble is it will have no credibilty. Any Dym promo should have run concurrently with the cash one.
Posted by Jac35

completely agree

DOHHHHHHH

Just extend the promotion to sng and mtt tournaments also. Fixed.

ACEGOONER

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Is this a wind up or are the Im not good enough to play cash players, sorry I mean tournament players really that stupid. Cash players get 6 points per pound and occasionally 9 points where as tournament players get 10 points all the time. I really cant decide if its stupidity or a wind up. What does everyone else think?
Posted by ajs4385

Yes and sng/mtt players get less rewards for the same amount of points? Patronising non cash players is poor form imo. 

This is a horrific ill thought out promotion. The PS4 rake race has from a commercial perspective been a resounding success for sky. 

I dont think there is one sng reg in the top 10, hoewever there are loads in the race for a freeroll place who are instantly put at a disadvantage by running extra points promos for cash players. All sky had to do was get this running on the first weekend of February and whilst you may have had a few disgruntled players, thats just the way it goes. 

Sky are long overdue a promo that incorporates sng players only. It would actually help if £1 was worth 10 points regardless of the type of game chosen. Bring back transparency is all I can say. 

rancid

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In Response to Re: Happy Days Promotion : Yes and sng/mtt players get less rewards for the same amount of points? Patronising non cash players is poor form imo.  This is a horrific ill thought out promotion. The PS4 rake race has from a commercial perspective been a resounding success for sky.  I dont think there is one sng reg in the top 10, hoewever there are loads in the race for a freeroll place who are instantly put at a disadvantage by running extra points promos for cash players. All sky had to do was get this running on the first weekend of February and whilst you may have had a few disgruntled players, thats just the way it goes.  Sky are long overdue a promo that incorporates sng players only. It would actually help if £1 was worth 10 points regardless of the type of game chosen. Bring back transparency is all I can say. 
Posted by ACEGOONER

Not true, only when you go above 10,000 is rake then calculated at 20%. Obviously at this point cash players would receive more rakeback cause they have contributed more rake to Sky.
Below 10,000 points, SNG/MTT have a clear advanatge where for every £1 in rake paid they get 10 points and cash players only get 6.

Hence everyone mentions happy hours where cash players get an increase during these times where they receive 9 points, still 1 point less than SNG/MTT players paying the same amount of rake - £1.

Ok so the happy days weekend means that all cash players would infact receive 9 points all weekend, so that kinda evens out the playing field during the final days of the promo.

I very much doubt the happy hours would apply during happr days, but would be nice of sky to confirm this.

ACEGOONER

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In Response to Re: Happy Days Promotion : Not true, only when you go above 10,000 is rake then calculated at 20%. Obviously at this point cash players would receive more rakeback cause they have contributed more rake to Sky. Below 10,000 points, SNG/MTT have a clear advanatge where for every £1 in rake paid they get 10 points and cash players only get 6. Hence everyone mentions happy hours where cash players get an increase during these times where they receive 9 points, still 1 point less than SNG/MTT players paying the same amount of rake - £1. Ok so the happy days weekend means that all cash players would infact receive 9 points all weekend, so that kinda evens out the playing field during the final days of the promo. I very much doubt the happy hours would apply during happr days, but would be nice of sky to confirm this.
Posted by rancid

Yes valid point below 10k, im always thinking priority these days !

But seriously, have a level playing field. £1 rake = 10 points for all games makes it soo much easier. 

rancid

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In Response to Re: Happy Days Promotion : Yes valid point below 10k, im always thinking priority these days ! But seriously, have a level playing field. £1 rake = 10 points for all games makes it soo much easier. 
Posted by ACEGOONER

I don't really understand why if your paying £1 in rake you are getting more points for MTT/SNG games than you do for cash.
Think the happy hours do nothing but insult cash players inteligience, where wow cash players get 9 points.

Think sky should overhual the whole thing and just level it out before 10,000 points and give everyone the same amount of points per £1 rake.

Maybe it's just Sky incentive to get more SNG/MTT players on the site, surely rake is rake! £1 will always be just £1.
So why are cash players at such a disadvantage.

for example I play 6-8 tables of nl20 and say I get 250 points for 3-4 hours play.

I could play for two hours £22 DYM's playing the same amount of tables and get 250 points.

You see!