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Sat call or fold?

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  • 77Chris9177Chris91 Member Posts: 375
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Sat call or fold?:
    Was thinking if I fold, I've still got some fold equity in some spots. If it's folded to me in the small blind next hand for example. Or if not I then have 4 hands to find a spot to get it in first, potentially with 60+% equity rather than <40% ? Worst case scenario, I get it in in this kind of spot again, but officially for my tournament life rather than effectively for my tournament life (like here).
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    With 2bbs I doubt your going to find many spots where u have any FE.

    I think it's much closer if there's 2-3 players to bust, as there's 6 I think given the price it's a meh call.

    If you double here you have a stack size we can put pressure on people with in the right spots.
  • mugsy78mugsy78 Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Sat call or fold?:
    I don't add up the percentages and fractions and ratios and divide by this and subtract that and blah blah, mugsy. I look at the hand. I look at the stacks. Then I take it from there. To be honest, I think most players do those things. But maybe that's why you're a better poker player than I am.
    Posted by Slipwater
    Is that what you think? Every other thread in this section equity is frequently mentioned. I'm sure the micro stakes players on Deuces Cracked and 2+2 would disagree. Looking at the stacks is the way we calc what equity  we need in the hand to break even on our call, so it seems you look at stacks etc and get what answer? We use pot odds ,equity, implied odds, reverse implied, EV etc etc to work out if we are making sound or bad investments in the long term ie what our expected value is.

    It does not really bother me much whether you care about all those above, but i can say this, every torny chip, or cash game £ what you push into the middle has an EV on it whether you are thinking about it or not.

    Knowing what equity we need in a hand is a solid platform to base our decisions, then we add other factors on top.
    To state most poker players do not think this way simply isn't true, however i agree with you on one thing you have said and that there isn't enough ample time here on SKY to play thinking poker, the time alocated is so fast and no time bank makes it hard to think about all the things we should/need to think about.
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,592
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Sat call or fold?:
    In Response to Re: Sat call or fold? : Is that what you think? Every other thread in this section equity is frequently mentioned. I'm sure the micro stakes players on Deuces Cracked and 2+2 would disagree. Looking at the stacks is the way we calc what equity  we need in the hand to break even on our call, so it seems you look at stacks etc and get what answer? We use pot odds ,equity, implied odds, reverse implied, EV etc etc to work out if we are making sound or bad investments in the long term ie what our expected value is. It does not really bother me much whether you care about all those above, but i can say this, every torny chip, or cash game £ what you push into the middle has an EV on it whether you are thinking about it or not. Knowing what equity we need in a hand is a solid platform to base our decisions, then we add other factors on top. To state most poker players do not think this way simply isn't true, however i agree with you on one thing you have said and that there isn't enough ample time here on SKY to play thinking poker, the time alocated is so fast and no time bank makes it hard to think about all the things we should/need to think about.
    Posted by mugsy78
    I actually didn't say that at all, mugsy. I said most people think about the things I mentioned.
  • mugsy78mugsy78 Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Sat call or fold?:
    In Response to Re: Sat call or fold? : I actually didn't say that at all, mugsy. I said most people think about the things I mentioned.
    Posted by Slipwater
    /wp  /gg

    @op. Sorry for slight derail. Elvis has left the building.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2014

    np :)

    Verdict is conclusive then, we calllllll.

    Don't normally need any encouragement to click that button.

    I did fold

    Not that it matters but I found 88 the next orbit when utg, which is like pre flop quads in that spot.

    Straight in to tens :(

    Lesson learnt.

    Thnx all.

    Another vote for chicken n mushroom btw. not even close.

    Pot noodles aren't the same anymore though, bring back e-numbers.
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,592
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Sat call or fold?:
    In Response to Re: Sat call or fold? : /wp  /gg
    Posted by mugsy78
    No worries :)

    Unlucky with the fold, DOH
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