Short stack nearly always looses

JONONZIE

  I have noticed that the short stacks "all in" here on sky will nearly always lose to the bigger stacks call regardles of the big stacks hand.

comments?

Slykllist

I have noticed lots of people post completely spurious things on the forum with literally no evidence.

stuarty117

In Response to Short stack nearly always looses:

  I have noticed that the short stacks "all in" here on sky will nearly always lose to the bigger stacks call regardles of the big stacks hand. comments?
Posted by JONONZIE

wise up

hhyftrftdr

Not the case, but feel free to keep on thinking it.

DOHHHHHHH

People nearly always use the phrase "9 times out of 10" in these kinds of posts!

BorinLoner

You shouldn't have said anything. They're going to swap it round, now.

They'll probably flick your DOOM switch, too.

THEROCK573

In Response to Short stack nearly always looses:

  I have noticed that the short stacks "all in" here on sky will nearly always lose to the bigger stacks call regardles of the big stacks hand. comments?
Posted by JONONZIE

bulid up a really big stack then and just keep shoving into short stacks with any 2.... easy game :-)

peter27

In Response to Short stack nearly always looses:

  I have noticed that the short stacks "all in" here on sky will nearly always lose to the bigger stacks call regardles of the big stacks hand. comments?
Posted by JONONZIE

This just shows you have no idea of how poker works.

However, if you think you have an edge - use it to your advantage! Whenever you're in the pot with a smaller stick, just go all-in. According to your logic your opposition "will nearly always lose" :-)

LARSON7

In Response to Short stack nearly always looses:

  I have noticed that the short stacks "all in" here on sky will nearly always lose to the bigger stacks call regardles of the big stacks hand. comments?
Posted by JONONZIE

You got a few comments, job done:)

K8LOU

I think its a shame someone posts on the forum being genuine and gets slated by most of the forum regs,  it may be a rookie mistake to beleive this but constuctive advice wouldnt go a miss surely?

Slykllist

In Response to Re: Short stack nearly always looses:

I think its a shame someone posts on the forum being genuine and gets slated by most of the forum regs,  it may be a rookie mistake to beleive this but constuctive advice wouldnt go a miss surely?
Posted by K8LOU

Actually you're right, however it is difficult to respond positively to such a nonsensical question. 

DoubleAAA

In Response to Re: Short stack nearly always looses:

I think its a shame someone posts on the forum being genuine and gets slated by most of the forum regs,  it may be a rookie mistake to beleive this but constuctive advice wouldnt go a miss surely?
Posted by K8LOU

You've made a fair point mate.  I've been playing live lately and the amount of times I've heard people there saying how online poker is rigged is unreal.  Thing is, they actually believe it.

Tikay10

In Response to Short stack nearly always looses:

  I have noticed that the short stacks "all in" here on sky will nearly always lose to the bigger stacks call regardles of the big stacks hand. comments?
Posted by JONONZIE

Morning Jon,

I'm genuinely sorry you've been bashed up a bit on this thread, but you used the phrase "here on Sky", suggesting something improper. Those who responded see so many threads like this, so, to a degree, it's easy to understand their cynicism, & why they are so dismissive.

The truth is, you are probably right, that the short stack loses more than we might otherwise suppose. But it's not just "here on Sky", it's everywhere, both Online, & Live. And there is good logic to the theory, too.
 
By definition, short stacks have to shove, or call, with a FAR wider (worse) range of hands than would normally be the case if we were motoring along with an average stack. And the big stacks not only know this, but they have the luxury of taking on the short stack without endangering their Tourney life. 

With a big stack, we'd be daft to get the lot in against another big stack if we have, say, A-3, or 2-2. If we have a micro-stack, we look at A-3 & 2-2 & it looks HUGE.
 
Shorties give big stacks odds to call, too. If we shove our 3 Bigs in all-in with 2-2, as we must & should, we are going to get multi-callers, as they all know our range is mega-wide.
 
It's simple logic, & nothing to do with Sky, which you imply.

When things are not going well, it's so easy, & it seems to be the modern thing, to point fingers at others, or external factors. Fact is, we need to look at ourselves. The problem arises BECAUSE we have a short stack, so the logical answer it to try & motor along with a larger stack. Then, if course, YOU can call the Shorties, & YOU can bust THEM.

I suspect you had a bad day yesterday, as I believe you've played thousands of games here on Sky Poker, so you know everything is tickity-boo or you would have skidaddled long ago.

Hope your luck soon changes.    


 
 

GELDY

and there is a pyschological angle as well.

as by definition you get knocked out of a tournament when losing as a small stack, which makes it more memorable, and painful, than when doubling up to stay in.

my exit from the roller last night AK<AQ (K on flop, runner runner QQ) will stay in my memory a lot longer than the earlier double up (AQ>QQ A on the flop)

aussie09

In Response to Re: Short stack nearly always looses:

People nearly always use the phrase "9 times out of 10" in these kinds of posts!
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

and "nearly always"



 

j3ono

I wish this was true!!

last 3 exits on sat night

kk, aa v shorties who alais had jj river j, 88 flop 998 meh

then when short

aqvkj kj flop 

luckily the the site crashed before I could be handed another bad beat  ;')

runbetter

aussie09

In Response to Re: Short stack nearly always looses:

I think its a shame someone posts on the forum being genuine and gets slated by most of the forum regs,  it may be a rookie mistake to beleive this but constuctive advice wouldnt go a miss surely?
Posted by K8LOU

hi k8, jononzie has been posting and playing here regularly for 5 years.  he will already have constructive advice in mind, surely.

peter27

In Response to Re: Short stack nearly always looses:

I think its a shame someone posts on the forum being genuine and gets slated by most of the forum regs,  it may be a rookie mistake to beleive this but constuctive advice wouldnt go a miss surely?
Posted by K8LOU

My advice was fairly constructive - I'm advising him to exploit flaws in the system rather than complain about it in order to give him some more value, albeit in a slightly assertive way. However, JONONZIE has 342 posts and has been a member for a number of years, he is not a rookie.

Of course if a true rookie came on here and said a similar thing, yes, attitudes towards them should be different :-)

DoubleAAA

Second time inside one week, lost with AA vs AQo.  All in pre and in the 2nd hand all in on flop JT2r.  Live poker is rigged!  That was my reply to them yesterday.

K8LOU

In Response to Re: Short stack nearly always looses:

In Response to Re: Short stack nearly always looses : My advice was fairly constructive - I'm advising him to exploit flaws in the system rather than complain about it in order to give him some more value, albeit in a slightly assertive way. However, JONONZIE has 342 posts and has been a member for a number of years, he is not a rookie. Of course if a true rookie came on here and said a similar thing, yes, attitudes towards them should be different :-)
Posted by peter27

Yeh fair enough I get that but my point was not directed just towards you, the thing is as doubleaaa stated above is that people actually believe this to be true, I was never saying he is new to the forum I was saying that it's a rookie mistake in believing this to be true but does that deserve a slating ? the forum is here to help people, I don't think it makes a difference if you are new to the forum or your a forum reg, ppl should still be treated with a little courtesy and respect.

aussie09

i reckon jononzie was being funny.