In Response to Re: Short stack nearly always looses : Yeh fair enough I get that but my point was not directed just towards you, the thing is as doubleaaa stated above is that people actually believe this to be true, I was never saying he is new to the forum I was saying that it's a rookie mistake in believing this to be true but does that deserve a slating ? the forum is here to help people, I don't think it makes a difference if you are new to the forum or your a forum reg, ppl should still be treated with a little courtesy and respect. Posted by K8LOU
I have noticed that the short stacks "all in" here on sky will nearly always lose to the bigger stacks call regardles of the big stacks hand. comments? Posted by JONONZIE
Hi m8 just to say sometimes it feels like that, because its the hand u remember the most the hand you get knocked out with to obviously a bigger stack never the suckout a few hands b4. I will also add i love taking on a short stack because it feels like the bigger stack mostly wins esp in a BH i call 2 or 3 short stack when i have large stack win, But i have also called 1 too many short stacks and by the time i know it im OUT, make urself a chart write it down everytime there is a all in BS v SS i dont know you might prove us wrong, good luck pal
Right. The thread title has been bugging me since it went up. The word you are looking for is ' loses ', not ' looses '. Otherwise it's an incomplete sentence without any context whatsoever. Short stack nearly always loses. There's your thread title. There. I feel better now. But you're wrong: it doesn't. Posted by Slipwater
Ok I shall attempt to explain. If you do not win the tournament then your short stack will lose to a big stack. This is certain because to be knocked out you must lose the hand and have less chips. It is always easier to remember the last hand you played than one you played 2 hours ago, and as you have been knocked out this is the last hand. Also when you are desperate and go all in and have the worst hand and lose you tend to shrug your shoulders and say " well I had to give it a go" which is of course correct, but when your AK suited loses to 9-7 off, or your AA loses to 8-7 suited you are disgusted at your bad luck. Also as you have a short stack the opponents are correct to call with poorer hands than they might, which increases the chance that a poorer hand will beat you.
All this makes it seem like the poorer hand nearly always wins against the shorstack. In reality if your hand has a 60% chance over your opponents hand then over time your hand will win 60% of the time.
To give you something to think about, say you were seriously short stacked and had to double up twice to get back in it, and you had the two scenarios I quoted above, (Lets face it you could not hope for better than AKs followed by AA) just how certain is it you will win them both?
Wow, I did not think it would cause all this fuss,(also not a comlaint just MY observation) TK I only said "here on sky" as this is mostly the only poker site I play now simply because it is the best with the best members, (mostly)I'm sure other site's short stack shove will be the same , also I mostly play BH,s so obviously any big stack will call the small stack's all in just for the head, I understand the odds will allways be close (at least 3/1) when heads up, its just my personal observation that the short stack will wait for half a hand and quite often be in front but get outdrawn luckily not my experience (to much), I also will never be surprised what the cards will lay down, which is one reason I play as Im not the best player in the world and need the luck that hold'em throws up. but I thank all who posted and wish them luck when short stacked (oh and I apologise for the illiteracy content of my post for all you budding Shakespear.s ) lol
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Right.
The thread title has been bugging me since it went up.
The word you are looking for is 'loses', not 'looses'. Otherwise it's an incomplete sentence without any context whatsoever.
Short stack nearly always loses. There's your thread title.
There. I feel better now.
But you're wrong: it doesn't.
Wow, I did not think it would cause all this fuss,(also not a comlaint just MY observation) TK I only said "here on sky" as this is mostly the only poker site I play now simply because it is the best with the best members, (mostly)I'm sure other site's short stack shove will be the same , also I mostly play BH,s so obviously any big stack will call the small stack's all in just for the head, I understand the odds will allways be close (at least 3/1) when heads up, its just my personal observation that the short stack will wait for half a hand and quite often be in front but get outdrawn luckily not my experience (to much), I also will never be surprised what the cards will lay down, which is one reason I play as Im not the best player in the world and need the luck that hold'em throws up. but I thank all who posted and wish them luck when short stacked (oh and I apologise for the illiteracy content of my post for all you budding Shakespear.s ) lol