In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : I signed up there too recently,it is a bit gimmicky but ok, but back to the alias point. yes you can have up to 5 different ones and I believe its possible to play 5 different tables using each one simultaneously. you are free to change whenever you like from the m ain lobby, I know I have had a few tables running using different names. as I said its gimmicky but its to appeal to recs, wont go into too much ellse as it may seem like im promoting it buut that's just the tip of the iceberg that I think a lot of players would frown at. sorry to derail Posted by TINTIN
I've never heard of anything so stupid in my life. Surely this would open the door to all kinds of fraud?
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : I've never heard of anything so stupid in my life. Surely this would open the door to all kinds of fraud? Posted by FlyingDagg
its only 1 account so you cant be on 2 seats at 1 table, not too sure where the fraud bit comes in at this time. thisa feature is stated in the sign up so people are aware of it, its even one of their "challenges" to create another alias. I guess its just a step between the current norm and the anonymous tables people have been suggesting for various sites. it also auto seats you at tables so you cant select table/seat you want. it has basically trying to remove bumhunting
as I said before it is very gimmick heavy, ive only played a few days there so im not 100% behind their ideas, it seems a radical change but im willing to give it a shot and see what comes from it, live and learn so to speak
I think there are alot of great points on here. I for one don't want to see ANOTHER bounty hunter, as before long, Sky will end up becoming purely bounty hunter tournament's for it's main events...and that's never good because those of us who want normal freeze-outs etc for our main events will end up moving elsewhere.
I think the big problem here IS the buy-in price!
I today's market, and for some people £55 is ALOT of money..and it's not even as if It's one of the big tournament's because it doesn't even have a live broadcast associated with it, unlike Sky's other premier events.
So as the primo has dropped somewhat in "Status" I'd say what about dropping it to like £22-Buy in? There isn't a leading MTT on sky for that price, and combined with it being Saturday night this more affordable price, I feel will attract a lot more players as it will come within the scope/budget of mid-range players.
I'd also like to perhaps one night of the week see a "mini's Mini" which could be for something like £2.20 buy-in (and make it like a £1000 GTD) which would then become the premier event for Small/Micro stakes players who perhaps are unable to comfortably afford some of the £5.50 Minis?
Bump. Oh dear, only 139 entrants in the Primo tonight. Is this down to the football and the sunny weather? On FA Cup final day last year the main event was an £8K gtd @ £33 Bounty Hunter, it attracted 303 runners. Posted by GaryQQQ
Therein lies the problem - Like I said above, I think the Buy-In price is just too expensive...FWIR, isn't the primo tonight a £55 Buy in?
The Primo is the ONLY £50 decent structured FO of the whole week. Leave it as it is. As an aside GaryyQQQ, i have sharkscoped the games you play and no disrespect intended but would this changing from a £50FO to a £33 BH really effect you? What about changing every game under £5 to Russian Roulette? any ideas?
its dying on its a** at the moment, hopefull pick back up soon. its the clientel sky attract, if sky had better software, more tournaments that arnt ur usually guff bounty hunters then they might attract ur average mtt grinder adding sky games to there nightly schedule, instead the bulk of players are beginners or fish who lose money all the time so they wanna play a bounty hunter format so they can get some stake back.
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : No Dagg. absolutely true. I signed up to unibet recently (haven't deposited or played a hand yet) They allow you to have 5 different alias's. You can chose which 1 you use each time you log in. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
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It's not a primo specific problem. Although the demise of the primo does mirror the struggles of the site. It's had a huge window of opportunity to beome a serious player in the online poker World. Failed. Badly. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
and why is this dohhhhh, please explain reasonably cos i will just sound like a to**er if i say why i think.
For me the buy ins for the decent mtts is way to much money and there are not enough low to mid mtts I do understand that the traffic here effects buy ins and GTD mtts but tonight I came on and see the Primo for £55 far an 8k prize pool and straight away I think what that £55 could get me in elsewhere esp turned into $. Iam not trying to get any1s backs up here and I do like sky poker but as a mtt player I just wish I had more choice other than a load of BH
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : Yeah do online banking. Searched the FAQ on Nationwide, yet still can't locate this info. Posted by hhyftrftdr
I'm with Nationwide. Look at one of your statements, it's located at the top of any statement.
The Primo is the ONLY £50 decent structured FO of the whole week. Leave it as it is. As an aside GaryyQQQ, i have sharkscoped the games you play and no disrespect intended but would this changing from a £50FO to a £33 BH really effect you? What about changing every game under £5 to Russian Roulette? any ideas? Posted by cpfc_2010
I'm a low stakes recreational player, always have been, always will be, I make no secret of it. No, I don't buy into £55 games. In fact due to my work hours I rarely play in the evening at all. Therefore I'm in a good position to comment on the matter as a neutral. As the person who posts the tournament results every day I can't help noticing the numbers in front of my face.
For the record I've only played in the Primo twice. Once this year when I binked an all-in sat. Once in 2010 when Sky generously awarded me a free seat. The buy-in then was £33, the field that day was 508, nearly 4x what it was last night.
I don't see what Russian Roulette has to do with this. Though now you say it I wonder how many of the 139 runners last night got in via an all-in lottery satellite? All-in sats and late registration didn't exist back in 2010 when the Primo used to start with over 500 entrants.
In my OP I didn't say the Primo should replaced by a Bounty Hunter, I merely pointed out the big downturn in numbers that have occurred since the change of main event on Saturday nights.
The Primo has been dying a slow death since the buy-in was controversially increased from £33 to £55, that's where the problem lies in my opinion, I was hoping this thread would address that matter.
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : I'm a low stakes recreational player, always have been, always will be, I make no secret of it. No, I don't buy into £55 games. In fact due to my work hours I rarely play in the evening at all. Therefore I'm in a good position to comment on the matter as a neutral. As the person who posts the tournament results every day I can't help noticing the numbers in front of my face. For the record I've only played in the Primo twice. Once this year when I binked an all-in sat. Once in 2010 when Sky generously awarded me a free seat. The buy-in then was £33, the field that day was 508, nearly 4x what it was last night. I don't see what Russian Roulette has to do with this. Though now you say it I wonder how many of the 139 runners last night got in via an all-in lottery satellite? All-in sats and late registration didn't exist back in 2010 when the Primo used to start with over 500 entrants. In my OP I didn't say the Primo should replaced by a Bounty Hunter, I merely pointed out the big downturn in numbers that have occurred since the change of main event on Saturday nights. The Primo has been dying a slow death since the buy-in was controversially increased from £33 to £55, that's where the problem lies in my opinion, I was hoping this thread would address that matter. Posted by GaryQQQ
Too many of skys main events are way out of people price range. Posted by stuarty117
lets be fair..theres not that many highly priced events, some of the ME's are £10 the rest generally £33. If you cant afford it then play the mini events and work your way up, it should be somthing to strive for to play in if you cant afford it now, not a given.
How can anyone complain about the buy in?? if its out of your bankroll then try and sat in or dont play it. There are 100's of low stake tournaments every single day, where as only a handful of mid/high stake tournaments a week! There HAS to be higher stake tournaments otherwise what can you aim for? 18 months ago I used to dream of being able to play the main events and side events each night. now that im lucky enough to be able to i wish there was higher stake tournaments running so i could have something else to aim for and work towards. Now im having to look at other sites to play on so i can continue to improve my game and my bankroll. So I believe the death of "proper" tournaments like the primo could be the death of tournament players on this site. And we all want this site to get bigger and better right? just because the numbers in bounty hunters are generally higher doesnt mean they are whats best for the site. I think you have to look at the long term and not just be "results orientated"
I think as someone else mentioned part of the problem is the prestige of the Primo has gone - they don't run a show for it now. When it was £55 on a Sunday it would attract runners because it had a show - and there were also plenty of satellites. Now, nobody with a lower bankroll is that interested in trying to play for it - they'd rather aim to sat into the slightly more expensive but better super roller.
Also, it's somewhat of a viscious cycle in that the fact there's not many runners makes people not want to play it because the amount they can win is not as big as it used to be.
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as I said before it is very gimmick heavy, ive only played a few days there so im not 100% behind their ideas, it seems a radical change but im willing to give it a shot and see what comes from it, live and learn so to speak
Oh dear, only 139 entrants in the Primo tonight. Is this down to the football and the sunny weather?
On FA Cup final day last year the main event was an £8K gtd @ £33 Bounty Hunter, it attracted 303 runners.
As an aside GaryyQQQ, i have sharkscoped the games you play and no disrespect intended but would this changing from a £50FO to a £33 BH really effect you? What about changing every game under £5 to Russian Roulette? any ideas?
For the record I've only played in the Primo twice. Once this year when I binked an all-in sat. Once in 2010 when Sky generously awarded me a free seat. The buy-in then was £33, the field that day was 508, nearly 4x what it was last night.
I don't see what Russian Roulette has to do with this. Though now you say it I wonder how many of the 139 runners last night got in via an all-in lottery satellite? All-in sats and late registration didn't exist back in 2010 when the Primo used to start with over 500 entrants.
In my OP I didn't say the Primo should replaced by a Bounty Hunter, I merely pointed out the big downturn in numbers that have occurred since the change of main event on Saturday nights.
The Primo has been dying a slow death since the buy-in was controversially increased from £33 to £55, that's where the problem lies in my opinion, I was hoping this thread would address that matter.
Look at the turbo open its still hitting its gtd.
£33 I think it could easily hit 350 to 400 runners but not on a Saturday. Bring it back to Sunday.
Have the roller once a month
Move the Primo back to Sunday
And what about a 8k gtd 22 buyin BH for the Saturday
Too many of skys main events are way out of people price range.