I feel the Primo and it's £55 buy in, maybe suffering from its Saturday night slot. Then again replace it with another bh and I am even less likely to be playing tournaments on Sky on a Saturday. For me it's always interesting to have quality tournaments like the Primo, as playing in these events is something to aspire to and get a buzz from. As numbers are falling and appear destined to remain low through the summer, my suggestion would be, purely for the summer months: For 3 in 4 Saturdays run the Primo with a £33 buy in with the 4th Saturday a £55 buy in. Same with the Sunday night rollers, make them £55 buy ins for 3 Sundays with the 4th Sunday a £110 Mega Roller. With plenty of promotions and satellites running to boost qualification, especially into the higher buy in events. Posted by TheDart
Yeah but then the knock off effect will be lower guarentees. so before you know it its the £4k primo, the £8k high roller, and 50% of the player base has left as theres no proper tournies left. careful what you wish for.
If you cant afford it, use the satetlites, thats what i always used to do, and still do, these roulette sats dont even require skill !!!! stop complaining everyone
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : Yeah but then the knock off effect will be lower guarentees. so before you know it its the £4k primo, the £8k high roller, and 50% of the player base has left as theres no proper tournies left. careful what you wish for. If you cant afford it, use the satetlites, thats what i always used to do, and still do, these roulette sats dont even require skill !!!! stop complaining everyone Posted by alex1229
As the words stop complaining everyone where made within a reply to my post.
For clarification, I am not complaining.
Fot that matter I don't think everyone is complaining on this thread, to the contrary there is some good constructive comments.
I remain a big fan of the Primo and Rollers, I like the structures and will always be keen to play them, whatever the buy in or guarantee.
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : Yeah but then the knock off effect will be lower guarentees. so before you know it its the £4k primo, the £8k high roller, and 50% of the player base has left as theres no proper tournies left. careful what you wish for. If you cant afford it, use the satetlites, thats what i always used to do, and still do, these roulette sats dont even require skill !!!! stop complaining everyone Posted by alex1229
This isn't necessarily true though. Like Gary said, 3-4 years ago the buy in was £33 and it used to attract 500+ runners. That's a £15k prizepool.
I agree that moving the primo to the Saturday night slot hasn't helped either. So, what are the options? Leave it as it is? Well that clearly isn't working so why not at least trial reducing the buy in back to £33 and see if player numbers increase??
It makes no odds to me because both £33 and £55 buy ins are too pricy for me and I only play when I sat in, but it would be a real shame if it got to the stage where the Primo (which not that long ago was Sky's biggest and best mtt) got dropped.
I think as someone else mentioned part of the problem is the prestige of the Primo has gone - they don't run a show for it now. When it was £55 on a Sunday it would attract runners because it had a show - and there were also plenty of satellites. Now, nobody with a lower bankroll is that interested in trying to play for it - they'd rather aim to sat into the slightly more expensive but better super roller. Also, it's somewhat of a viscious cycle in that the fact there's not many runners makes people not want to play it because the amount they can win is not as big as it used to be. Posted by F_Ivanovic
the 3 events on the TV shows should be the 12K BH the super roller and the primo because it's on TV days that the most players will join the MTTs "especially the recs".
the turbo event itself should be the one that is used on the day you get the fewest number of players (which sounds like Saturday) also why not start it off at 7pm then it will be likely to finish in time for everyone to get a chance to go out with their mates for a drink, something that is a problem with the primo.
edit: the length of the MTT itself is another problem as it will mean a late night on Saturday, so why waste money in this MTT when tomorrow their is an even better MTT and ok it might be an even bigger buy in but those who buy into these events will normally manage to buy into the super roller too. so as we can't reduce how long it goes on for why not move it.
so why not make it like this Monday-10K BH Tuesday-12K BH Wednesday-rebuy Thursday-primo as some will still be tired from the super roller on sunday so won't want another late night on Tuesday. Friday- 10K BH and start it at 7pm as these MTTs can finish in 4 hours so they will have time to go out for a drink at 11pm Saturday- turbo start at 7pm as this is sure to finish by 11pm and most will be able to watch MOTD or go out with friends. sunday- super/mega roller.
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : This isn't necessarily true though. Like Gary said, 3-4 years ago the buy in was £33 and it used to attract 500+ runners. That's a £15k prizepool. I agree that moving the primo to the Saturday night slot hasn't helped either. So, what are the options? Leave it as it is? Well that clearly isn't working so why not at least trial reducing the buy in back to £33 and see if player numbers increase?? It makes no odds to me because both £33 and £55 buy ins are too pricy for me and I only play when I sat in, but it would be a real shame if it got to the stage where the Primo (which not that long ago was Sky's biggest and best mtt) got dropped. Posted by waller02
The poker world has changed since 3-4 years ago, theres a lot less liquidity in rooms so i wouldnt read to much into that, summer and as others have said maybe becasue its a saturday night, and lots of the players go out doesnt help. I'd personally stick it during the week and get it on Sky TV rather then than that midweek Turbo open tourny
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : lets be fair..theres not that many highly priced events, some of the ME's are £10 the rest generally £33. If you cant afford it then play the mini events and work your way up, it should be somthing to strive for to play in if you cant afford it now, not a given. Posted by alex1229
I totally agree with BRM what I am getting at is to play a decent BRM here you need a lot off money in your bankroll. I play on other sites and iam a bit of a BR nit and stick to around 100 buy ins which stops me going broke so for me to reg play the mains I would need around £3000/£4000 mark or I wouldn't feel comfortable hence why I will only try to sat into mains here. I understand the buy ins here have to be a bit more pricey otherwise sky would be loosing a lot in overlay
In Response to Re: Should the Saturday evening Primo be dropped? Discuss. : Yeah do online banking. Searched the FAQ on Nationwide, yet still can't locate this info. Posted by hhyftrftdr
mate, im with them. go into statements and download it and its right above where your balance etc start. you want me to post a copy of mine on fb?
Imo, the main reason for the primo demise is that its no longer on tv.. I think £55 games need tv coverage with tikaays hype to get the 400 runners we want. Dont think we can compare numbers with a tv tournie on a sunday with a non tv tournie on a saturday.. Just because it has the same name
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I agree that moving the primo to the Saturday night slot hasn't helped either. So, what are the options? Leave it as it is? Well that clearly isn't working so why not at least trial reducing the buy in back to £33 and see if player numbers increase??
It makes no odds to me because both £33 and £55 buy ins are too pricy for me and I only play when I sat in, but it would be a real shame if it got to the stage where the Primo (which not that long ago was Sky's biggest and best mtt) got dropped.
the turbo event itself should be the one that is used on the day you get the fewest number of players (which sounds like Saturday) also why not start it off at 7pm then it will be likely to finish in time for everyone to get a chance to go out with their mates for a drink, something that is a problem with the primo.
edit: the length of the MTT itself is another problem as it will mean a late night on Saturday, so why waste money in this MTT when tomorrow their is an even better MTT and ok it might be an even bigger buy in but those who buy into these events will normally manage to buy into the super roller too. so as we can't reduce how long it goes on for why not move it.
so why not make it like this
Monday-10K BH
Tuesday-12K BH
Wednesday-rebuy
Thursday-primo as some will still be tired from the super roller on sunday so won't want another late night on Tuesday.
Friday- 10K BH and start it at 7pm as these MTTs can finish in 4 hours so they will have time to go out for a drink at 11pm
Saturday- turbo start at 7pm as this is sure to finish by 11pm and most will be able to watch MOTD or go out with friends.
sunday- super/mega roller.
I totally agree with BRM what I am getting at is to play a decent BRM here you need a lot off money in your bankroll. I play on other sites and iam a bit of a BR nit and stick to around 100 buy ins which stops me going broke so for me to reg play the mains I would need around £3000/£4000 mark or I wouldn't feel comfortable hence why I will only try to sat into mains here. I understand the buy ins here have to be a bit more pricey otherwise sky would be loosing a lot in overlay