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  • BoxsterBoxster Member Posts: 4,462
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    hey boxster it states in the terms and conditions  11. If there is a tie for the 16th spot then the order will be decided by the total amount of Sit and Go’s played throughout the promotion. that answers your question buddy :)
    Posted by liamboi11
    Thanks mate
  • GRINTLERGRINTLER Member Posts: 31
    edited July 2014
    Sorry to repeat an already asked question but don't think it got an answer - do russian roulette HU games count?
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    Sorry to repeat an already asked question but don't think it got an answer - do russian roulette HU games count?
    Posted by GRINTLER
    Pretty sure they do.  Someone grinding for a different rake race has been playing tons of them and was on the leaderboard in the early going.
  • GRINTLERGRINTLER Member Posts: 31
    edited July 2014
    Thanks.

    I'm not very good at maths, and no online tool can help me so I was wondering if anybody can help me here:

    I was on 51 games and at a win percentage of 66.7%.

    This morning, I decided to try and increase this percentage and played a total of 27 games, winning 15.

    In total I have now played 78 games and I have worked out I have now won 49 of those games.

    I have tried to work it out and now it seems my win percentage has dropped to 62%ish? 

    Is there any maths wizz that can a) work this out for me? b) explain why my win percentage has gone down despite a winning session this morning?

    So confused lol
  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    Thanks. I'm not very good at maths, and no online tool can help me so I was wondering if anybody can help me here: I was on 51 games and at a win percentage of 66.7%. This morning, I decided to try and increase this percentage and played a total of 27 games, winning 15. In total I have now played 78 games and I have worked out I have now won 49 of those games. I have tried to work it out and now it seems my win percentage has dropped to 62%ish?  Is there any maths wizz that can a) work this out for me? b) explain why my win percentage has gone down despite a winning session this morning? So confused lol
    Posted by GRINTLER

    you 'only' won 15/27*100 = 55% of your games today.

    to improve your win percentage you would have to win more than 66.7% of your games today.

    had you won 19 games of the 27 you would have achieved this



  • HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV Member Posts: 8,688
    edited July 2014

    Ouch!!!

    Tonko just hurt my %!!! Lost 6-3!!

    VWP Sir!!

    ......anyone weaker fancy a game??

  • murray69murray69 Member Posts: 436
    edited July 2014
    Lol Tonko has just been abusing me after i played him 3 times and won all 3 lol 
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited July 2014

    funny, i just had the same experience. 

    first he was insulting about those he played earlier and then called me a moron.

    he did win one game of our three.  well done him.



     
  • SlipwaterSlipwater Member Posts: 3,632
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    funny, i just had the same experience.  first he was abusive about those he played earlier and then called me a moron. he did win one game of our three.  well done him.
    Posted by aussie09
    Is it all right for him to call you a moron if it's proven that you are? ;)
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup : Is it all right for him to call you a moron if it's proven that you are? ;)
    Posted by Slipwater

    you have a valid point there.




  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited July 2014


    i had another series of games against a well known reg and i won 5 out of 7.  he said that as he said he didn't want to play me i should not register to play against him anymore.  apparently "it's etiquette", he said.  he said that there are many weaker players i should choose instead.  then he called me a cxxt

    is it not my choice who i play?  and is it not his choice to register and wait for any opponent?

    ps.  i stopped playing him but watched his next game.  the other player was away and he min raised every hand in his absence.  i guess etiquette is a fashionable thing.  here one game, gone the next.


     
  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    i had another series of games against a well known reg and i won 5 out of 7.  he said that as he said he didn't want to play me i should not register to play against him anymore.  apparently "it's etiquette", he said.  he said that there are many weaker players i should choose instead.  then he called me a cxxt is it not my choice who i play?  and is it not his choice to register and wait for any opponent? ps.  i stopped playing him but watched his next game.  the other player was away and he min raised every hand in his absence.  i guess etiquette is a fashionable thing.  here one game, gone the next.  
    Posted by aussie09
    if he's worried about being sat, he shouldn't open sit.

    that's is all.
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup : if he's worried about being sat, he shouldn't open sit. that's is all.
    Posted by TeddyBloat

    thanks ted, that's my thinking too.



  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup : thanks ted, that's my thinking too.
    Posted by aussie09
    there is a whole lotta politics that goes on though. some might be interested:

    first off, as you are not a [husng] 'reg' it doesnt matter what you do.

    basically recreational players are FAR more likely to sit second. this means that being able to open sit is a huge advantage when there are only two lobbies available. regs might agree to share lobbies so that they share the recreationals that stray into their waters.  sometimes someone new comes in and might have to prove themselves to the regs that it is in their interests to share lobbies.

    it would be bad ettiquette to sit someone that you had a sharing agreement with. with the low traffic, it's not so bad here, but on the bigsite there are queues for the lobbies [managed by a 3rd party registration software]. this has lead to the mid-high-stakes players forming collectives to protect their lobbies and prevent people from lower stakes bumhunting by open sitting, or moving up in stakes easily.

    basically, if you are not in the collective you get sat by all the regs.

    ---

    with your reg it is probably an ego thing. if you sit him you are basically telling him that you believe you have an edge, whilst at the same time preventing him getting x games an hour in v passive recreationals.
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Cup : there is a whole lotta politics that goes on though. some might be interested: first off, as you are not a [husng] 'reg' it doesnt matter what you do. basically recreational players are FAR more likely to sit second. this means that being able to open sit is a huge advantage when there are only two lobbies available. regs might agree to share lobbies so that they share the recreationals that stray into their waters.  sometimes someone new comes in and might have to prove themselves to the regs that it is in their interests to share lobbies. it would be bad ettiquette to sit someone that you had a sharing agreement with. with the low traffic, it's not so bad here, but on the bigsite there are queues for the lobbies [managed by a 3rd party registration software]. this has lead to the mid-high-stakes players forming collectives to protect their lobbies and prevent people from lower stakes bumhunting by open sitting, or moving up in stakes easily. basically, if you are not in the collective you get sat by all the regs. --- with your reg it is probably an ego thing. if you sit him you are basically telling him that you believe you have an edge, whilst at the same time preventing him getting x games an hour in v passive recreationals.
    Posted by TeddyBloat

    blimey, quite a murky world

    thanks for explaining.



     
  • ALFIE123ALFIE123 Member Posts: 287
    edited July 2014
    Well i proper messed up my chance of getting in top 16. After 52 games i was on just over 66% but didnt think that was going to be enough. So i carried on going and gradually went down and further down. Still dont think 66% will be quite enough.
    On the plus side i have found a  far more enjoyable game than the DYMs i was getting so bored playing.
    Heads Up here we come on a far more regular basis. Just got to iron out my very loose river calls then onwards and upwards.

    Good luck to everyone who makes Top 16.
  • Sky_SamSky_Sam Member Posts: 738
    edited July 2014
    Leaderboard has been updated! Here it is incase you missed it...

    RankAliasWinning %S&Gs playedPrize
    1Nosebleed_78.00%50Place in the Last 16
    2lundie70.00%50Place in the Last 16
    3johnny_e70.00%50Place in the Last 16
    4Buttafngrs70.00%50Place in the Last 16
    5oldboy27168.00%50Place in the Last 16
    6benc68.00%50Place in the Last 16
    7Tormas7767.57%111Place in the Last 16
    8timmai67.24%58Place in the Last 16
    9MrTazzy67.16%67Place in the Last 16
    10Boxster66.67%66Place in the Last 16
    11lions8666.67%54Place in the Last 16
    12gar9611266.18%68Place in the Last 16
    13MrFish201065.52%58Place in the Last 16
    14TommyD65.39%52Place in the Last 16
    15EvilPingu64.91%57Place in the Last 16
    16LARSON764.41%59Place in the Last 16
    17TimmyRaRa64.06%64 
    18Hotwheals63.03%211 
    19PaulVanDyk62.22%90 
    2010l0l1i0T61.64%73 
    21KoperKys61.54%52 
    22seanallen60.87%115 
    23NOGIMMICKS60.78%51 
    24day4eire7660.00%60 
    25liamboi1159.65%57 
    26ALFIE12359.46%111 
    27splashies58.89%90 
    28OCD_man58.57%70 
    29StayOrGo58.46%65 
    30GRINTLER58.43%89 
    31duonross58.39%137 
    32GSmith1358.18%55 
    33BloodyKK58.17%208 
    34markus9158.17%208 
    35Django9358.02%131 
    36Sammydrid57.97%69 
    37poshcole57.96%88 
    38Devo8457.75%71 
    39billybob1257.58%330 
    40jakerobson56.96%79 
    41jonnyrkd56.34%142 
    42xxxxxxc56.34%71 
    43eardleym55.96%109 
    44biggirl55.71%70 
    45david66655.56%63 
    46BigM1955.56%81 
    47Tonko55.43%359 
    48Itsover4u55.39%65 
    49slokazilla55.31%226 
    50footsie6654.84%62

  • Sky_SamSky_Sam Member Posts: 738
    edited July 2014
    And the best of the rest....

    RankAliasWinning %S&Gs played
    1BooBooTheB71.43%42
    2waller0270.97%31
    3shiftty70.73%41
    4pilezitin69.23%39
    5londman68.29%41
    6nickd4993168.18%44
    7zoglog68.18%44
    8LB43866.67%39
    9ElleJaySea65.85%41
    10Slykllist65.71%35
    11murray6963.64%33
    12Brothy12363.42%41
    13oceans000762.16%37
    14BigManch61.77%34
    15Wrighty2461.29%31
    16HWD761.11%36
    17goldnballz60.61%33
    18BigHawk8960.00%30
    19BrayCorp8360.00%25
    20Scrivener60.00%45
  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited July 2014

    It's depressing reading this and knowing that I went on crazy monkey tilt last night and ruined my chances of making the top 16 :(

  • JacquelynJacquelyn Member Posts: 254
    edited July 2014
    Hi All,

    Have just read through all of these posts from the very beginning, as have just finished 53 games of heads up. Some of you will know me from the DYM tables - hi to all.

    May I ask - who was the player that was removed from the leaderboard? Did they "win" all 50?! I have obviously only seen the posts today. 

    Bear with me as I am not a heads up player, by my own admission i am normally only playing it when on tilt (ask Tormas77!) - my average win rate is 55.8% on ALL heads up games, but decided to give it a try anyway. Nothing to lose right! 

    Personally I don't like the variance in HU games - you can see from my graph (if you filter to hu only) that I started my HU games very very well, then went super down, and then recently (whilst trying for this venture, went up again.)

    This could explain a lot of things in response to many of the posts - in my opinion I think that the very best HU player on this site could quite feasibly be nowehere near the leaderboard after 50 games, and some of the worst players ever, could also be near the top - over the course of a mere 50 games that is. 

    It also means a fish (like me at HU!) will stop on 50 games if they have ran very well and a regular/solid player may carry on (in Alfie123's case) to try and improve over time.

    The result is that you may have some strange results over the 50 games - i know that I have ran very very well over the last 20 games, and I am now going to stop as I believe i have a decent chance of progressing to the last 16.

    I would say (although it is too late) that a sample size of 50 does promote collusive activity - the higher the sample, the less chance of collusion (and easier to spot). BUT, on the flip side, huge congrats to Sky for putting on a promotion that recreational players can have a go at.

    Like Tommy, I also hope that Sky goes through some of the hands - I was very lucky in that after 30 games or so I had roughly 65% (in with a shout) after sitting and waiting for fish to play my tables at the lowest stakes possible - £5.25. I tried rematching a few of them (won't mention names) but no one really wanted to go for more than 3-5 games - then for my last session today, an epic donkey (am I allowed to say that?) kept rematching me and I think i went something like 17-3 on them.

    Sharkscope says that my ITM % is 71.7% which I am excited about, but now after reading the posts I am also scared that a) colluders will overtake me, and b) people will think I have been colluding!!! - Of course I haven't, it's just that the last guy I played, I ran very well against/they were awful.

    What I would like to ask the regular heads up players though is what is the best upswing and down swing you have ever been on playing hu? - Is it actually possibly to win/lose lets say 45+ games in a 50 game sample?

    Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading, HU is certainly an interesting game and one which I will now consider trying to get better at, gl to all in the promo and i look forward to more discussion!

    J
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