All I am getting rather bored, tired and downhearted with all of these messages saying "dont play this" or "don't do that" and so on and the constant barrage I am getting regarding the smaller micro-buy in games.. Respectfully, could I please ask that you all cease filling my diary thread with constant talk about the rake % at the 60p - £2 buy in Sit & Go's. It's been endlessly debated across many topics and there was at least two pages of my previous diary taken up by the same discussions, which are happening again! so respectfully please STOP! PS It is MY Bankroll challenge and I will play it the way I see fit - Granted that Devonfish IS giving me advice, pointers and helpful hints & tips on how to progress at these levels, as He has proven that you CAN, if you win /> 65% of your games begin to SLOWLY build a bankroll from playing these levels. I am a FUN, Recreational player, and obviously this Irk's a small X-Section of our community who are clearly playing either "competatively" or for Money.. Posted by GaryLaud
This completely sums you up Gary, ie YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO LISTEN TO ANYONE! I'm a winning player at 1.15, 2.25, 3.30, 5.50 and the 11's, but I am a losing player at 60p, as everyone is. But no, Gary Laud knows best and he 'will' beat the 60p's!
I must admit Gary, and I know it's wrong, but yes I do play competitively and even worse, yes I play for money. I always thought that was the point, but then Gary knows best.
Also if you are not playing for money, why did you call this your £50 to £500 challenge????
WHAT?? People play poker competitively? for money?? there is absolutely no need whatsoever for this kind of behaviour and if if i spot any of these "competitive, money making " scoundrels i will forthwith report them to sky, i know they will punish these individuals to the best of there ability... may i please stress that if any1 lands on garylauds table then you MUST fold every hand you are dealt and not in any way be competitive or expect to win any money....
hope thats cleared this matter up and i do hope there will be no more of these shenanigans!!!
To be fair Gary, you do practise what you preach. You criticised us for playing to make money, but you haven't made any money. If you started on £51.80 and your now on £47.69, that definitely wouldn't qualify as making money. Well done for sticking to your guns..
I'm still 50/50 whether this is all just one huge level but for the time being I'll pretend that it's serious.
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You have had so many people trying to advise you. They have done this because that's what poker people do. They talk about the rake because it's a valid point. It's not to get at you. We nearly all play for fun but we do like to win as well. To state that it irks a section of the community because you play for fun is just ridiculous.
Finally you've seen sense and have actually listened, a little bit anyway, to Devonfish who is a lovely bloke and a good Dym player. The majority of the time you seem to just ignore anyone who tries to give you constructive critism.
Do you remember that in a moment of madness I offered to help you? You sent me a pm and then I didn't hear any more from you. I was quite prepared to help but I certainly wasn't going to chase you to give it.
You've had loads of support up to now. Unfortunately, unless we say that you're great and will soon be crushing then you don't want to know.
If you want this just to be a conversation between you and dev that's up to you although email might be a better means of communication between just two people
which means that the most critical factor in your dym success or not is the rake. It is so much more important than your ability at the micro levels. that is why many people are giving you advice on how to beat it. Don't be dismissive be thankful.
I think Geldy is right Gary. You should be gracious and thankful, if not to all to all the contributors, at least to me, Vinny and Riptide. We've devoted our precious time, that could have been spent playing actual poker, to try and help you on your noble poker quest to beat the fabled 60 pence variant of our beloved DYM's.
I don't know much about dyms as I hate them and only play omaha hilo dyms because I love hilo and there is lots of advice given free of charge on tikays thread. But what I do know is that if I didn't listen to that advice I wouldn't be making any money at it.
You are blessed by having the likes of dev and jac35 giving you advice. Even as a non dymer I know how brilliant these two are at the game. and the others maybe in the same category as well but that I don't know.
You are doing brilliantly by having a diary on your attempt to beat the game. that is what has attracted the advice. benefit from it.
And sure you'll get some snidey comments. Don't worry about that but do listen to the experts.
I see you've edited your original rant. I'm still 50/50 whether this is all just one huge level but for the time being I'll pretend that it's serious. .... You have had so many people trying to advise you. They have done this because that's what poker people do. They talk about the rake because it's a valid point. It's not to get at you. We nearly all play for fun but we do like to win as well. To state that it irks a section of the community because you play for fun is just ridiculous. Finally you've seen sense and have actually listened, a little bit anyway, to Devonfish who is a lovely bloke and a good Dym player. The majority of the time you seem to just ignore anyone who tries to give you constructive critism. Do you remember that in a moment of madness I offered to help you? You sent me a pm and then I didn't hear any more from you. I was quite prepared to help but I certainly wasn't going to chase you to give it. You've had loads of support up to now. Unfortunately, unless we say that you're great and will soon be crushing then you don't want to know. Posted by Jac35
You are blessed by having the likes of dev and jac35 giving you advice. Even as a non dymer I know how brilliant these two are at the game. and the others maybe in the same category as well but that I don't know. You are doing brilliantly by having a diary on your attempt to beat the game. that is what has attracted the advice. benefit from it. And sure you'll get some snidey comments. Don't worry about that but do listen to the experts. Posted by GELDY
In Response to Re: Constant messages regarding rake - PLS STOP IT! : Also if you are not playing for money, why did you call this your £50 to £500 challenge???? Posted by thefa1lacy
Umm its not called garys £50 to £500 challenge, its called GARY L'S BR THREAD (No Rake % Messages Pls!) BR £47.69 (Deposit 8th Aug 14 Posted by vinny67
Er.... The title of his blog changes everyday. 100% this blog was called his £50 to £500 challenge..
Not sure if its been mentioned before by any1.....correct me if it has, but im sure the 20% rake that you are giving to sky is killing you....has any1 suggested moving up a little to a lower rake?
Not sure if its been mentioned before by any1.....correct me if it has, but im sure the 20% rake that you are giving to sky is killing you....has any1 suggested moving up a little to a lower rake? forgive me if this has been suggested before regards vin Posted by vinny67
Finally someone hits the nail on the head. It must have been the 20% rake all along. I can see this thread going in a new direction now, players will probably en masse start mentioning that the rake at 60p level is too high for Gary to beat..
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