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Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
edited July 2014 in Poker Chat

Whoa, hold up, hold up.

Situations vacant, yes.

Wages, no.
 
But....

Poker players, especially here on Sky Poker, LOVE to help each other. The whole Community is evidence of that.

So I thought it might be an idea if we got a few of you to help out in a more structured way.

What am I waffling on about?

More follows. Waffle, that is.

 
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014

    About a week or so ago, I started a "PLO8 DYM Help, Advice, & Questions" thread, HERE

    We have barely scratched the surface yet, but loads of folks have chipped in already.
     
    In time, once we have built on that good start, that thread will be a goldmine of useful info.

    So now we need to do it in other formats, but I just don't have the game or ability to speak with any authority these days except, & arguably, in 4 some of the 4 card games.

    You could argue of course, & I know a few will, "why should we tap the fish tank" (yikes, what a cliche'd expression that is), "we are only helping others to beat us". Thats OK, if you feel that way, no need to get involved. 

    I'm pretty sure that many would like to help though.

    So we need.......  
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014

    .....those of you who have reasonable ability to PLAY, or EXPLAIN, how best we can improve our games in the following formats.

    MTT's. (Standard NLH)

    MTT's (Bounty Hunters) 

    NLH Cash Games

    PLO Cash Games

    PLO8 Cash Games

    NLH DYM's
    (Though John Connor has covered much of this, & quite splendidly).
     
    PLO DYM's.

    The wages? Zilch, nada, zero.

    The satisfaction of helping each other? Priceless.

    No need to apply. 




     

  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014

    All you need to do is start the thread. Do that well, & the rest will take care of itself.
     
    It's human nature. The vast majority of people love to help others along the way.

     
  • salazarsalazar Member Posts: 330
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.:
    All you need to do is start the thread. Do that well, & the rest will take care of itself.   It's human nature. The vast majority of people love to help others along the way.  
    Posted by Tikay10

    A bit off the point, but are you going to do your rake thread and why you feel it is right micro stakes players should pay a bigger %? You mentioned it yesterday.

    As for advice on how to play, I've nothing to contribute as I struggle to make at a profit at the micro stakes games I play.

    Regards
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN. : A bit off the point, but are you going to do your rake thread and why you feel it is right micro stakes players should pay a bigger %? You mentioned it yesterday. As for advice on how to play, I've nothing to contribute as I struggle to make at a profit at the micro stakes games I play. Regards
    Posted by salazar
    Yes, though I need to slightly correct your exact choice of words.

    I don't intend to say "I feel it is right that micro-stakes rakes have a higher%", I simply want to explain a few reasons that I imagine are behind it. Not even devils advocate, really, just try & improve two-way understanding between players, & how the poker economy works.

    I generally end up getting a black eye when I try to demonstrate these unpopular things, so I hope people read it with some care. 

    Understanding the what & why really helps, imo. Some really astounding misconceptions arise on this Community about this Business, & I'm just trying, one by one, to explain stuff.
  • shakinacesshakinaces Member Posts: 1,590
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN. : Yes, though I need to slightly correct your exact choice of words. I don't intend to say " I feel it is right that micro-stakes rakes have a higher% ", I simply want to explain a few reasons that I imagine are behind it. Not even devils advocate, really, just try & improve two-way understanding between players, & how the poker economy works. I generally end up getting a black eye when I try to demonstrate these unpopular things, so I hope people read it with some care.  Understanding the what & why really helps, imo. Some really astounding misconceptions arise on this Community about this Business, & I'm just trying, one by one, to explain stuff.
    Posted by Tikay10
    I don't have the poker talent to answer the original post (sorry), but look forward to reading this.

    Even if you're not happy about something (why would we, everyone would prefer to pay less rake), having a well-rounded view of the issue always helps with the understaning...

    Although I appreciate that with this many poker players in the same place, there's guaranteed to still be chuntering!! :)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN. : I don't have the poker talent to answer the original post (sorry), but look forward to reading this. Even if you're not happy about something (why would we, everyone would prefer to pay less rake), having a well-rounded view of the issue always helps with the understaning... Although I appreciate that with this many poker players in the same place, there's guaranteed to still be chuntering!! :)
    Posted by shakinaces
    ;)

    Not wrong.
     
    It'll be like pouring petrol on a bonfire, but I promised I'd do it, & I will.

    Am just drafting it now, actually. Talk about walking on eggshells.
     
    I just happen to believe that knowing is understanding.

    I don't expect a solitary soul to agree with the policy though why would they? We all want better cheaper faster, & most of us agitate & chunter when we don't get it. Luckily, we don't live in North Korea, so we all have a choice.  
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014


    Anyway, back on topic.

    SITUATIONS VACANT
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited July 2014
    I'm a little confused, Tikay...

    Are you saying you'd like people to post up threads effectively saying "This is how (I think) best to play NLHE cash" or one of those other topics?

    As in... the whole game... lock stock and barrell? Hand selection, bet-sizing, position, assigning ranges, expected value, fold equity, etc...?

    That sounds like a very big job.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.:
    I'm a little confused, Tikay... Are you saying you'd like people to post up threads effectively saying "This is how (I think) best to play NLHE cash" or one of those other topics? As in... the whole game... lock stock and barrell? Hand selection, bet-sizing, position, assigning ranges, expected value, fold equity, etc...? That sounds like a very big job.
    Posted by BorinLoner
    Almost, but not quite.

    Using the example I linked to, yes, it needs someone with good foundations in that format to get it going, & put up stuff regularly. But really, nobody OWNS the thread, lots of people should & will contribute. It just needs one, with a decent CV in that format, to get the ball rolling, & prime the pumps every few days.
     
    Big task? Well maybe 20 minutes to set up it, & 10 minutes a day, on average, for a few weeks. If at least one winning player in each format can't spare that, then its rather sad.
     
    Do you think they should be paid to do it then? (assume smiley follows...).

    Anyway, if they don't, I'll start each thread, & invite help, as I dont have the skillsets to articulate it except at the ABC Beginners Level.
     
    It was just an idea I had, to help promote self-help. No big deal really.    
     
  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited July 2014
    Firstly I wouldnt put myself forward for this as it seems like a pretty big commitment, and im sure there are far better suited people, but I will be more than happy to add some input along the way, also Im always happy to give advice or help to anyone who wants to PM me, when it comes to any Mtt's or Heads up Sng's
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.:
    I'm starting one here: https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a2e4f51cb-c64c-449f-a843-8db9c5fe7283Forum%3ae6c7e49e-4ab5-4f79-9a89-3a6d1f4f9081Discussion%3aa61b64f8-1212-4ced-a7f5-092ff73a0bc7 I'll add some general strategy immediately.
    Posted by Wilhelm
    Brilliant.

    That's all it needs.

    It should grow from there, & I'll try & do some puff elsewhere - on 861, Twitter, etc, to bang the drum a bit.

    I just have this vision that we could all help each other get a bit better.
     
    And there are TONS of relatively inexperienced players here, who are shy to ask advice about basics in case they look silly, or some smart-alec wants to mock them. Never underestimate human psychology.
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.:
    Firstly I wouldnt put myself forward for this as it seems like a pretty big commitment, and im sure there are far better suited people, but I will be more than happy to add some input along the way, also Im always happy to give advice or help to anyone who wants to PM me, when it comes to any Mtt's or Heads up Sng's
    Posted by jordz16
    BOOMIO

    Thanks mate.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,752
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN.:
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker Community - SITUATIONS VACANT, APPLY WITHIN. : A bit off the point, but are you going to do your rake thread and why you feel it is right micro stakes players should pay a bigger %? You mentioned it yesterday. As for advice on how to play, I've nothing to contribute as I struggle to make at a profit at the micro stakes games I play. Regards
    Posted by salazar
    I don't want to derail this thread further, it's going all over the place, lol, but I just wanted to say I'll do thar Micro-Stakes thing tomorrow, as something has cropped up right now.
  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited July 2014
    Sounds interesting, I will take a peek...
  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,569
    edited July 2014
    It is a brilliant suggestion Tikay!
    The community will love it and prosper from it!

    I know I will!
  • Nuggy962Nuggy962 Member Posts: 1,104
    edited July 2014
    Really good idea!!

    Be grwat to have a few prominant threads where people can go to get advise on all aspects of the particular format. I know when I first started out was not sure how to ask for help so the posts ended up bad mouthing pointlessly, when really all I wanted was the guts to ask for help and be assured others are on the same journey.

    I am too novice to start one up but will def put my opinions across as they get started

    Matt
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