I'ts not exactly that much of a cooler. Sevens only really a bluff catcher if some one else shoves and beating next to nothing if someone check calls. The fact he also had running fours for a chop means your outpipped for bad beat of all time though. Posted by seanallen
Effective stack is like 10xBB, I'm shocked it didn't go in pre but if it didn't, I don't think anyone is or should fold 77 on 448, with these stack sizes.
Gotta agree with munky, jingle and cardu. If ever a hand was worthy of posting in bbv, it's this 1. Otherwise why bother having a bbv at all. It's THE worst possible beat in nlhe. Couldn't happen to a nicer munky Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I think rivermunky is right I really shouldnt read bbv, the worst beat possible in poker, literally the itdoesntgetanymoreoutrageousthanthat worst run out, and it's UTTERLY boring.
In Response to Re: bad beat of the day? week? year? ever? : I think rivermunky is right I really shouldnt read bbv, the worst beat possible in poker, literally the itdoesntgetanymoreoutrageousthanthat worst run out, and it's UTTERLY boring. PS gotta win dem flips. Posted by TeddyBloat
If this thread bores you, then it's definitely not worth clicking in here. Of the 3,400 threads this would be in the top 1%.
There's still the brags I guess!
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I remember watching the Vegas qualifier final on here a couple of years ago.
3 players left in the final, 2 packages to play for.
As you can imagine on such a huge bubble theres alot of risk averse play going on.
Eventually it all goes in on a flop of AKx.
AA v KK.
K otr.
4.5% equity is huge compared to the 0.1% here, but it was still anything but boring, even though it was a flip!
Theres a gif that did the rounds showing KK v AQhh on stars.
Flop KKx (king of hearts out), money goes in, Jh Th.
Even though its still perfect perfect its has a bit more poetry to it. Think its about the only time ive been impressed by a bad beat. Meh, frankly.
And yah a bad beat in the wsop sat will have an edge. Was it cantona who said a goal cant be be considered great unless it was truely important as well as beautiful? Maybe he was sick of matt le tissier winning goal of the month all the time...
Some ridiculous replies here!! I expect so much more from seasoned regs and Tk
If there was a bad beat jackpot, like at my local, this 100% counts. I do not feel the original post is being anti sky, not saying it's rigged just showing us a true bad beat. Regardless of the opinion it should be a shove pre or not, the replies should of been more "wow that must of hurt, unlucky and thanks for sharing a genuine bad beat for once)
The examples you guys are giving of all in on flop are not bad beats. Any all in pre, however runs is poker not a bad beat. But seriously regs, this IS a bad beat. Sure got to move on and all that, but original post never said that.
I love community and read a lot, post a little. But being an ex trash talking, this sort of response does from regs and presenters do not help you. Even the top pro's in the world who share there hands on various websites talk about te odd bad beat and say unlucky, got it in good and they hit miracle.
Also, for the record, 77 v 88 never always going in on that flop!! I see you guys make big folds with overpair to board. Is easy to put someone down, do it too trash talkers but not to a genuine bad beat post?
Unlucky fella - thanks for sharing a genuine one - run golden in future
Honestly, some of the things in this thread are just plain weird.
It's a poker forum with a poker hand posted on it. It shouldn't come as a surprise when people discuss poker.
Once you start a thread, it doesn't belong to you. The debate will flow in whichever way the participants choose to direct it. If you want to point it in another direction, you know what to do. That's how a public forum works. It's not a private conversation.
Wow guys come on!! Some ridiculous replies here!! I expect so much more from seasoned regs and Tk If there was a bad beat jackpot, like at my local, this 100% counts. I do not feel the original post is being anti sky, not saying it's rigged just showing us a true bad beat. Regardless of the opinion it should be a shove pre or not, the replies should of been more "wow that must of hurt, unlucky and thanks for sharing a genuine bad beat for once) The examples you guys are giving of all in on flop are not bad beats. Any all in pre, however runs is poker not a bad beat. But seriously regs, this IS a bad beat. Sure got to move on and all that, but original post never said that. I love community and read a lot, post a little. But being an ex trash talking, this sort of response does from regs and presenters do not help you. Even the top pro's in the world who share there hands on various websites talk about te odd bad beat and say unlucky, got it in good and they hit miracle. Also, for the record, 77 v 88 never always going in on that flop!! I see you guys make big folds with overpair to board. Is easy to put someone down, do it too trash talkers but not to a genuine bad beat post? Unlucky fella - thanks for sharing a genuine one - run golden in future Posted by Nuggy962
Wont be putting my input into any strat advise in this as thats not what rivermunkys looking for as he posted it as a bad beat. but i can assure you all the chips from both players as played on the flop will always be going in the middle here.
Thanks guys some intesting comments in this thread ! Couple of you bang on here I didn't post this here for my donkey type play to be analysed or indeed it would be posted in the clinic and I would be asking should I ship pre flop etc ? But here all I'm simply doing is sharing a legit bad beat which in all my years playing hadn't happened to me just thought it was a rare occurrence and wanted to share it ! Don't want any sympathy sniff sniff as I'm over it now I'm no pro just on sky to enjoy a game of poker with a good bunch of people who enjoy a bit of banter and a laugh !
Good luck to you all and watch out for that river when I'm on your table )))
The examples you guys are giving of all in on flop are not bad beats. Any all in pre, however runs is poker not a bad beat. But seriously regs, this IS a bad beat. Sure got to move on and all that, but original post never said that. I love community and read a lot, post a little.
OK so we have AA pre and GII against 55. Flop is AK9r. Turn and river come 55. Is this a huge bad beat, or just a small one? So suppose we argue it's a small bad beat because we only had 20% when the money went in - and not really a bad beat. At least according to you.
But whilst all the chips did not go in pre-flop here, a good % of them did. And there was only a PSB left on the flop. Technically, the flop play was decided already before we saw a flop because of how much was in the middle. Therefore, if you don't think my AA vs 55 example is a bad beat then you can't think of this as a bad beat.
Suppose though there was still a good bit of money behind (say at least a SPR of at least 3) - then yes, it would be much more of a bad beat since a lot more money went in on the flop than pre-flop (by comparison)
Also, for the record 77 vs 88 is definitely going in on that flop. You don't call pre with 77 for nearly 1/3 of your chips and then fold on a 8 high flop. What were you hoping to see when you flat pre with 77?
If you think this isn't a bad beat you really have no understanding of what a bad beat is. Absolutely ridiculous answers from so called experts or professionals. Laughable. Keep trying to win those 'flips' Munky. :-D
Crikey, I seem to have offended a few of you, which was never my intention.
I freely admit, I've never understood the fixation with poker bad beat stories, but that's just me I suppose. I've yet to meet anyone who enjoys being told bad beat stories, either, but perhaps I need to get out more.
I just like to keep life simple. 8-8 lost to 7-7, thats all that matters to me.
And yes, you are right, this is the "Bad Beats" Board, so you are entitled to Post them.
In Response to Re: bad beat of the day? week? year? ever? : OK so we have AA pre and GII against 55. Flop is AK9r. Turn and river come 55. Is this a huge bad beat, or just a small one? So suppose we argue it's a small bad beat because we only had 20% when the money went in - and not really a bad beat. At least according to you. But whilst all the chips did not go in pre-flop here, a good % of them did. And there was only a PSB left on the flop. Technically, the flop play was decided already before we saw a flop because of how much was in the middle. Therefore, if you don't think my AA vs 55 example is a bad beat then you can't think of this as a bad beat. Suppose though there was still a good bit of money behind (say at least a SPR of at least 3) - then yes, it would be much more of a bad beat since a lot more money went in on the flop than pre-flop (by comparison) Also, for the record 77 vs 88 is definitely going in on that flop. You don't call pre with 77 for nearly 1/3 of your chips and then fold on a 8 high flop. What were you hoping to see when you flat pre with 77? Posted by F_Ivanovic
Aa v 55 Is not a bad beat no - if all in pre it matters little the order of cards. When you put all your chips in the middle you are saying you are happy to let the poker gods decide your fate. Hence folding AA is acceptable late stage of a sat if good enough stack to see you through.
And for the record - Bad beat jackpots do not get paid out if odds pre are 80 / 20 and it goes all in and the odds change thoughout the hand to 95 /5 etc. Its done at point goes in (not sure what would happen if somone left 1 chip behind pre - maybe I will try it)
I agree - little left, but we are not here to pick holes in the pre flop play - many would agree flatting there is incorrect long term so a fold there may also happen - not saying not correct play to go all in - just would not happen all the time.
Amount of chips behind does not determin if a bad beat or not - it may magnify the importance and make it a terrible one to get over, but AS PLAYED, and AS POSTED - there is not a situation in holdem that is a satistically worse bad beat. Runner runner perfect perfect, takes a few forms.
Anyway,
Fair play to Munkey for probably the best bad beat post and most discussed while at least keeping his dignity.
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I realise you wasn't really talking about this hand specifically aswell and just trying to explain the concept.
Gotta agree with munky, jingle and cardu.
If ever a hand was worthy of posting in bbv, it's this 1.
Otherwise why bother having a bbv at all. It's THE worst possible beat in nlhe.
Couldn't happen to a nicer munky
But whilst all the chips did not go in pre-flop here, a good % of them did. And there was only a PSB left on the flop. Technically, the flop play was decided already before we saw a flop because of how much was in the middle. Therefore, if you don't think my AA vs 55 example is a bad beat then you can't think of this as a bad beat.
Suppose though there was still a good bit of money behind (say at least a SPR of at least 3) - then yes, it would be much more of a bad beat since a lot more money went in on the flop than pre-flop (by comparison)
.....but people are saying treat it as losing a flip, not saying it was a flip.
Crikey, I seem to have offended a few of you, which was never my intention.
I freely admit, I've never understood the fixation with poker bad beat stories, but that's just me I suppose. I've yet to meet anyone who enjoys being told bad beat stories, either, but perhaps I need to get out more.
I just like to keep life simple. 8-8 lost to 7-7, thats all that matters to me.
And yes, you are right, this is the "Bad Beats" Board, so you are entitled to Post them.
Anyway, apologies if my comment offended anyone.