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How many bad beats to bad players can you take.

69steve69steve Member Posts: 5
edited October 2014 in Brags, Beats and Variance
It is like a constant attack of bad players, bingo player and fishermen. Ok we all take a risk now and then , However this is day in day out. Won 200 pounds , within a week gone and 100 more. Bad beat bad beat bad beat. Just needs to be a little bit of fairness about it. Personally i love sky poker , love the set up and the layout and the ease of play, Really like the bounty hunter games.  I have stayed loyal, i know i am not the best player in the world, but i am good enough to hold my own with post players. All i ask is STOP REWARDING BAD PLAY AND BAD PLAYERS EVERY **** TIME. You will lose lots of good spending customers .........................................FFS !!!!!!!!!!!
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2014
    The people you think are bad, are probably good.......
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071
    edited September 2014
    In Response to How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    It is like a constant attack of bad players, bingo player and fishermen. Ok we all take a risk now and then , However this is day in day out. Won 200 pounds , within a week gone and 100 more. Bad beat bad beat bad beat. Just needs to be a little bit of fairness about it. Personally i love sky poker , love the set up and the layout and the ease of play, Really like the bounty hunter games.  I have stayed loyal, i know i am not the best player in the world, but i am good enough to hold my own with post players. All i ask is STOP REWARDING BAD PLAY AND BAD PLAYERS EVERY **** TIME. You will lose lots of good spending customers .........................................FFS !!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by 69steve
    Really sorry you have had a bad run Steve, though from your previous posts, it appears it is not the first time.
     
    I'm not having sport with you, but how exactly can the site (Sky Poker) stop these happening?

    Post some hands, ideally 8 or 10. & I guarantee you that a whole shed load of help & advice will come your way. You could also read the "WAR ON TILT" thread on the Community, or the latest Blog on Sky Poker, which is essentially an abstract from "The Mental Game of Poker". 

    Do all those things, & I guarantee you will be a better player, & see these things differently.

    Hope your luck turns soon.  

    The reply by D7H may seem a little harsh, but I'll tell you one thing for certain. In poker, in the long-term, the better players ALWAYS win the most, & the lesser players always lose the most. Thats not luck.
     
    Together, we can help you be a better player, & understand these bad beats.

    You even think they happen "EVERY TIME", but thats not true, is it? You mean "sometimes", "quite often", "too often". But nobody is going to take you seriously if you claim it is EVERY TIME. That's just selective memory.

    Come on, post some hands & we'll get started.

    Have a great weekend, too.

    We are doing something wrong if, when we log on to our favourite poker site each time, be it Sky Poker or any other site, if we are not as excited as a kid on Xmas Eve. Poker should be fun, but you don't seem to be enjoying it much right now. But you could enjoy it....
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited September 2014
    Tikay has to be diplomatic but I don't.

    You're talking out your ar$$e Steve.
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited September 2014
     Have a think about the odds of getting a bad beat with the hands you play --- the only way to lower these odds is to play better hands
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,606
    edited September 2014
    In Response to How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    It is like a constant attack of bad players, bingo player and fishermen. Ok we all take a risk now and then , However this is day in day out. Won 200 pounds ,  .........................................FFS !!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by 69steve
    THink I musta missed THAT post! ;-)
     Being serious tho, I feel your pain.  Why not post a few "key" hands in the clinic from your losing streak with some details about the tourney, the opposition, your thinking along the streets etc. You will get feedback.  It will be invaluable.   Also, what is your bankroll & what games do you play?  MOST importantly, WHY do you play?  THIS is the key.....
    GL
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  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk Member Posts: 6,184
    edited September 2014
    Could Sky Poker not provide a game that does away with the flop, turn and river? So only your dealt hands are played? Kinda like Top Trumps. That may eliminate all the tiresome "bad-beat" whining.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,071
    edited September 2014

    Steve, I've just had a thought.

    Why not watch the Ch 861 Show tonight? (repeated tomorrow).

    The Guest is Matt Bates. He gets the same cards as you & me, but he plays them better than we do.

    This is his record on 2014.

    5 main event wins (the most on the site this year)
    13 main event final tables this year.
    4 mini wins, 9 final tables
    Won The Super Roller on 7th Sep for £4,741
    Won £500 on the Jackpot 5th & 1st in the main and mini events on 16th Jan



    Just watch him for an hour, on the Show tonight, & you'll end up a better player.

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  • carducardu Member Posts: 147
    edited September 2014
    i always go out to a bad beat which used to really annoy me but stopped looking at it like that...

    if i get all my chips in good and get a worse hand to call then i have played it well....i cant control the card that comes...i know over time i will be on the plus side against these players.

    i have played live for years and have made a good profit every year...

    i play online more for fun,if i played every night etc then i would start to make a profit over time.........good luck to you steve and try to ignore the haters
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    i always go out to a bad beat which used to really annoy me but stopped looking at it like that... if i get all my chips in good and get a worse hand to call then i have played it well....i cant control the card that comes...i know over time i will be on the plus side against these players. i have played live for years and have made a good profit every year... i play online more for fun,if i played every night etc then i would start to make a profit over time.........good luck to you steve and try to ignore the haters
    Posted by cardu
    No you don't. No one does.
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  • carducardu Member Posts: 147
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take. : No you don't. No one does.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr

    emmm yes i do
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  • carducardu Member Posts: 147
    edited September 2014
    like i say steve...ignore the haters
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take. : emmm yes i do
    Posted by cardu
    You never go out of a tournament with an underpair? Or lose a race? Or miss a draw? Or outkicked?
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  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited September 2014
    if that's true then you are too nitty and are probably jamming your short-stack with AK and getting looked up by all kinds of stuff = outdraws.

    if you always exit to a bad beat, then it's not the RNG that's causing you to miss out on £££

    an old adage: if you're never caught bluffing then you arent bluffing enough.

    apply that to never getting it in bad
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  • oynutteroynutter Member Posts: 4,773
    edited September 2014
     But these bad players are bad!--- They do bad things, and then we are forced to play bad against them, and then we might get unlucky and lose, and then we might as well cry!
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  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    Tikay has to be diplomatic but I don't. You're talking out your ar$$e Steve.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    One of my favourite posts of yours loll
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  • somersomer Member Posts: 91
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take. : One of my favourite posts of yours loll
    Posted by Matt237

    Easily pleased.

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  • Matt237Matt237 Member Posts: 1,785
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    In Response to Re: How many bad beats to bad players can you take. : Easily pleased.
    Posted by somer
    Nothing wrong with that
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  • F1N63RSF1N63RS Member Posts: 65
    edited September 2014
    Quite possibly the worst call and beat i've ever had.... admitedly he had 3 outs , and this was on the cash bubble... 


    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancealan1710Small blind 150.00150.009947.50F1N63RSBig blind 300.00450.004975.00 Your hole cardsA8   mickoRaise 600.001050.006610.83FLASHJONNYFold    milburn12Call 600.001650.0026220.00alan1710Call 450.002100.009497.50F1N63RSCall 300.002400.004675.00Flop  783   alan1710Bet 1200.003600.008297.50F1N63RSAll-in 4675.008275.000.00mickoFold    milburn12Fold    alan1710Call 3475.0011750.004822.50alan1710ShowJ4   F1N63RSShowA8   Turn  10   River  J   alan1710WinPair of Jacks11750.00 16572.50
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited September 2014
    Well no, he actually has plenty more than 3 outs come the river. If that's your ''worst beat'' then you can't have played much online poker! Dubious call granted, but we don't give a toss when the river bricks off and we scoop the pot.

    Oh, and hi Somer :) missed you petal.
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  • Si_PiesSi_Pies Member Posts: 11
    edited September 2014

    Interesting you should write this blog as it has been the same for me for many months. I win then i get a run of bad beats that are impossible in both number and likelihood in any confirguration of pure randomness.

    SO....i stumbled accross a group of statisticians at a university and IT specialists that are currently investigating the claims of certain on line poker sites as to their validity of claims to be totally random and fair.

    It seems the so called random genarator for SKY is anything but, there is a very real pattern and logarythm thathas a direct link to monies deposited to monies won and bad beats delivered.

    Also, there is a more than average suspicion of the software that selectively produces the RIVER CARD with a pause and deliberation that inevitably delivers the 1 in a million out to win the hand. Not only does it do this once it repeats this process in succession over a period of time until you have lost and re-deposited at least 40% again of what you originally won.

    Interestingly enough, the Aldernay Gaming license that SKY holds is several years old and their IT systems have not been interrogated for some time.

    Now the press and certain groups are becoming more interested in the data produced and its a case of watch the press etc.

    In the meantime i will continue to play and keep losing etc in order to maintain a live source of data at the time that the story goes to official press.








    In Response to How many bad beats to bad players can you take.:
    It is like a constant attack of bad players, bingo player and fishermen. Ok we all take a risk now and then , However this is day in day out. Won 200 pounds , within a week gone and 100 more. Bad beat bad beat bad beat. Just needs to be a little bit of fairness about it. Personally i love sky poker , love the set up and the layout and the ease of play, Really like the bounty hunter games.  I have stayed loyal, i know i am not the best player in the world, but i am good enough to hold my own with post players. All i ask is STOP REWARDING BAD PLAY AND BAD PLAYERS EVERY **** TIME. You will lose lots of good spending customers .........................................FFS !!!!!!!!!!!
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