As a good friend of Rose I have to say that the play on the bubble was hard to watch. Fair play to the winner for shoving every hand to take the top prize but it's 100% certain he wouldn't have done it without the extra cash incentive. Unfortunately it killed the game for the 2 shorties and must have been so frustrating for them both. Rose if Sky have sent you an email inviting you to a FR for an 8th place tell em to shove it where the sun don't shine! Posted by FlyingDagg
Nah. He did it because it was the correct thing to do.
The T+C's were clearly laid out before hand. To have people arguing it's wrong after the event is a bit silly IMHO.
Does anyone REALLY think that Sky have magiced another seat out of thin air and decided to give it away in a freeroll or do you think that this was the plan all along?
In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the awful change? : Nah. He did it because it was the correct thing to do. The T+C's were clearly laid out before hand. To have people arguing it's wrong after the event is a bit silly IMHO. Does anyone REALLY think that Sky have magiced another seat out of thin air and decided to give it away in a freeroll or do you think that this was the plan all along? Posted by cenachav
With regards to the package, I completely agree, however I do think the excess should have gone to the bubble or split between the losers. say 8-13...
In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the awful change? : Nah. He did it because it was the correct thing to do. The T+C's were clearly laid out before hand. To have people arguing it's wrong after the event is a bit silly IMHO. Does anyone REALLY think that Sky have magiced another seat out of thin air and decided to give it away in a freeroll or do you think that this was the plan all along? Posted by cenachav
Can't agree with that Mark. The correct tactic in a standard SAT with that chip lead would be to sit it out and not jeopardise your place.
In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the awful change? : With regards to the package, I completely agree, however I do think the excess should have gone to the bubble or split between the losers. say 8-13... Posted by ra1d
If people were so concerned about this then why hasn't been raised before now? It was clearly said in the T+C's before hand.
In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the awful change? : Can't agree with that Mark. The correct tactic in a standard SAT with that chip lead would be to sit it out and not jeopardise your place. Posted by FlyingDagg
The chip leader had more then enough chips that they could still cruise through if they would of been called and lost so it makes it the right move IMHO
Sky will have had X packages available for this whole promo, and obviously the last one has been held back for this freeroll. It has not just been invented. I think 8 packages and no freeroll would have been better but its a moot point.
I didn't see the bubble but with the jumps in cash also factored in, the CL should be doing everything they can up to and on the bubble to amass as many chips as possible for a run at 1st place.
I do feel for you Rose though. Very unlucky, and then to see that email must have been hard to take. But you'd have got that email regardless of whether you finished 1st, 8th or rock bottom.
Just seen there is a freeroll on sunday. Have to say this doesnt make any sense at all to me. Why not have an extra package in the sat? Rose understandably feels gutted after seeing this. Theres very few people that win a package this sunday that are going to be able to book the time off work for the week after to go to the dominican republic aswell as there wife/husband having to book the time off work. Thats not to mention how expensive the flights are going to be by the time that person wins the package.
Just seen there is a freeroll on sunday. Have to say this doesnt make any sense at all to me. Why not have an extra package in the sat? Rose understandably feels gutted after seeing this. Theres very few people that win a package this sunday that are going to be able to book the time off work for the week after to go to the dominican republic aswell as there wife/husband having to book the time off work. Thats not to mention how expensive the flights are going to be by the time that person wins the package. Posted by bearlyther
Possibly so Sky can say that one person has got to Punta Cara on a total freeroll. Someone could of got there on a freeroll on Sunday but this way it guarantees it
There were only 7 packages available all worth £3500. In a 'regular' sat if another £3500 was raised in entries it would create another seat, if less then there's bubble cash. In this case though it wouldn't be desirable to have the bubble paying say £3500 in cash (not as a package) because for some that would be more attractive than the package itself. Hard then to start splitting at a sensible rate below the package places. Adding the money to the top 7 made it more of a tournament less of a satellite though still with a hefty bubble. Who knows the reasons why, but I suspect it was driven by the finite number of packages available. Posted by bbMike
But as no freeroll had been announced at that point surely they could have added that package as exactly 40 players? And given the freeroll planned a cash sum instead of maybe £1000? I'd even pay the £1000 personally lol.
I know I know - stop thinking of the what ifs and maybes and just suck it up - I'm trying but it's not as easy as it sounds
In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the awful change? : But as no freeroll had been announced at that point surely they could have added that package as exactly 40 players? And given the freeroll planned a cash sum instead of maybe £1000? I'd even pay the £1000 personally lol. I know I know - stop thinking of the what ifs and maybes and just suck it up - I'm trying but it's not as easy as it sounds Posted by IrishRose
Just because it's not announced doesn't mean it's not planned. The next UKOPS hasn't been announced yet but I bet you it's been planned. It was announced when the promo started what the prize structure was. As no one complained all through the promo about it why should Sky change it now?
....maybe, just maybe.....the extra TOURNAMENT package could of only been 'created' after one of the CASH kings could not take it. Hence, Sky would not want to upset a 'big player' on the site and came up with this free roll idea after paying the player off to keep him/her sweet.
.....Just my NO evidence whatsoever theory BTW....just thought I would add to the debate.
I also think if some of the so called big players were that bothered about it, things could be sorted for the bubble position. Their rake back this month will be huge! I would actually be against this though, as folk have already pointed out, the rules were in place before the commencement of this final.
I will go and hide now
**** UL Rose BTW, I feel your pain after so many (but none as big) bubbles in the past.
....maybe, just maybe.....the extra TOURNAMENT package could of only been 'created' after one of the CASH kings could not take it. Hence, Sky would not want to upset a 'big player' on the site and came up with this free roll idea after paying the player off to keep him/her sweet. .....Just my NO evidence whatsoever theory BTW....just thought I would add to the debate. I also think if some of the so called big players were that bothered about it, things could be sorted for the bubble position. Their rake back this month will be huge! I would actually be against this though, as folk have already pointed out, the rules were in place before the commencement of this final. I will go and hide now **** UL Rose BTW, I feel your pain after so many (but none as big) bubbles in the past. Posted by MAXALLY
Oh yeah I forgot, Mr Pinkstone the Hammers fan.... Btw very unlucky Rose.
I guess I'll just have to look on the bright side (if I can call it that lol) - If I was playing in Punta Cana I'm guessing I wouldn't be able to play any of the UKOPS games from 4th November onwards as I'd be outside the UK???
Geldy, I get the feeling the change in bubble cash was a one off for this event.
Do Sky really have to justify themselves for altering it? Not really. It was all laid out before the promo even began, regardless of whether people read the T and C's or not.
There was only 7 seats. 8th was always gonna be zilch.
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Sky will have had X packages available for this whole promo, and obviously the last one has been held back for this freeroll. It has not just been invented. I think 8 packages and no freeroll would have been better but its a moot point.
I didn't see the bubble but with the jumps in cash also factored in, the CL should be doing everything they can up to and on the bubble to amass as many chips as possible for a run at 1st place.
I do feel for you Rose though. Very unlucky, and then to see that email must have been hard to take. But you'd have got that email regardless of whether you finished 1st, 8th or rock bottom.
Geldy, I get the feeling the change in bubble cash was a one off for this event.
Do Sky really have to justify themselves for altering it? Not really. It was all laid out before the promo even began, regardless of whether people read the T and C's or not.
There was only 7 seats. 8th was always gonna be zilch.