In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the change? : Hi all I think people are getting confused about my "complaint" about this promotion. I have no issue with the fact that only 7 packages were up for grabs - even though obviously it would have been nice to have had 8 as a nice round number of 40 players took part.My "issue" is with the fact that if someone has won one of these packages and are NOT going to Punta Cana then I honestly do believe that the tourney entry and hotel room should be given to the next placed person in the qualifier. I don't agree that " it's their prize to do with as they please ." as the terms and conditions which I keep being referred back to actually state that if the person doesn't go then they forfeit their prize!! " No. All prizes are non-refundable, non-transferable and cannot be converted to cash. You must go or forfeit your seat and package. " Surely if a prize is forfeit it amounts to the same thing as disqualification? In which case the usual terms of a players being disqualified usually means that everyone else moves up a place on the prize board?? I'm only guessing at this stage as obviously I don't yet know if all 7 players are going to Punta Cana to actually play the tournament. If they are then fine - if they're not then it appears to be a question that genuinely needs answering. Or is it a case of Sky just pocketing the additional £3500 package as additional profit? Posted by IrishRose
Which would only be you if it was one of the people who finished above you. If it was one of the people in the cash promo then it wouldn't go to you.
It would be nice if everyone of the 40 that qualified could go. 40 is a much rounder number then 8. There were only 7 packages on offer so only 7 can
In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the change? : Which would only be you if it was one of the people who finished above you. If it was one of the people in the cash promo then it wouldn't go to you. It would be nice if everyone of the 40 that qualified could go. 40 is a much rounder number then 8. There were only 7 packages on offer so only 7 can Posted by cenachav
I agree with you cenachav - if it's not one of the 7 finalists who isn't going and is one of the cash rake players who drops out then yes - it should go to the next person in that particular race - but I've already said that earlier to ShakinAces.
Surely it's a bridge that only needs crossing if it does come to light that someone has won a package but can't/won't go? Forfeit and disqualification are 2 different things entirely. And I don't think this freeroll package has materialised from someone not being able to attend, as has been suggested. I would've thought that this final package was always going to be up for grabs in a freeroll, giving Sky potentially great marketing juice should the dream happen (freeroller scoops big cash etc etc). Unlucky again Rose. Posted by hhyftrftdr
Again I also agree with you Harry (for want of typing millions of times incorrectly lol). It is only something that needs a bridge crossing if and when it happens - I am just trying to clarify the issue IF it does happen as there won't be long to go before the tourney actually starts.
My "issue" is with the fact that if someone has won one of these packages and are NOT going to Punta Cana then I honestly do believe that the tourney entry and hotel room should be given to the next placed person in the qualifier. I don't agree that "it's their prize to do with as they please." as the terms and conditions which I keep being referred back to actually state that if the person doesn't go then they forfeit their prize!! "No. All prizes are non-refundable, non-transferable and cannot be converted to cash. You must go or forfeit your seat and package.
I have no gripe with you Rose, but those t&c's you quote would also seem to prevent you from being awarded the package.
It is all down to how you interpret them, I guess.
My "issue" is with the fact that if someone has won one of these packages and are NOT going to Punta Cana then I honestly do believe that the tourney entry and hotel room should be given to the next placed person in the qualifier. I don't agree that " it's their prize to do with as they please ." as the terms and conditions which I keep being referred back to actually state that if the person doesn't go then they forfeit their prize!! " No. All prizes are non-refundable, non-transferable and cannot be converted to cash. You must go or forfeit your seat and package. I have no gripe with you Rose, but those t&c's you quote would also seem to prevent you from being awarded the package. It is all down to how you interpret them, I guess. Good luck at the tables Posted by dragon1964
In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the change? : I actually have decided to quote this bit, and more enquiring about regulation than anything. I would love VLV to return, and seems that sky are keen to - well at least yourself from your posts. That gives me some hope that one day it could happen. You mention in this specific post that makes me worry though. In the past yourself, or someone else from the site would meet people from the airport and look after them. This is one of the things that always appealed to me about why i specifically only want to do a Vegas package with Sky - well at least my first one if i can get through sats. However this post makes me worry that this would not be possible. Is this something of the past now, or would we have to advertise yourself/Rich as a Holiday rep for that to even be allowed to happen. Posted by The_Don90
Hi Donald, whilst i agree that it would be the icing on the cake for Sky peeps to do the meeting and greeting etc., having worked for the company that are arranging the Punt Cana trip and hopefully future VLV packages i can assure you that the guys/gals who are going out there will be treaed extremely well by them.
They have been doing this for a number of years and are a very professional outfit with loads of experience in organising poker packages and looking after/entertaining poker players. They will have a ball.
In Response to Re: Bubble cash in sats for live tournaments - why the change? : Hi Donald, whilst i agree that it would be the icing on the cake for Sky peeps to do the meeting and greeting etc., having worked for the company that are arranging the Punt Cana trip and hopefully future VLV packages i can assure you that the guys/gals who are going out there will be treaed extremely well by them. They have been doing this for a number of years and are a very professional outfit with loads of experience in organising poker packages and looking after/entertaining poker players. They will have a ball. Posted by pomfrittes
Hi Pommy.
I intend to reply in more detail to Don's question, & I will later, but yes, they are a very fine & reputable team, I know them well, & I know they'll do a good job.
I'd rather it were me - obv! - but I've had more than my share of such gigs, so I certainly can't complain.
Surely it's a bridge that only needs crossing if it does come to light that someone has won a package but can't/won't go? Forfeit and disqualification are 2 different things entirely. And I don't think this freeroll package has materialised from someone not being able to attend, as has been suggested. I would've thought that this final package was always going to be up for grabs in a freeroll, giving Sky potentially great marketing juice should the dream happen (freeroller scoops big cash etc etc). Unlucky again Rose. Posted by hhyftrftdr
+1
Even if someone couldn't go. Would be pretty ridiculous to give 8th the package anyway, unless this was clearly in the terms and c's from the start. The whole tourne could have played out completely differently if people knew that if they bubbled, there would still be a (slim) chance of a package.
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I intend to reply in more detail to Don's question, & I will later, but yes, they are a very fine & reputable team, I know them well, & I know they'll do a good job.
I'd rather it were me - obv! - but I've had more than my share of such gigs, so I certainly can't complain.
+1
Even if someone couldn't go. Would be pretty ridiculous to give 8th the package anyway, unless this was clearly in the terms and c's from the start.
The whole tourne could have played out completely differently if people knew that if they bubbled, there would still be a (slim) chance of a package.