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Last night's issues.....

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,707
edited December 2014 in Poker Chat

Good morning.

As many of you know, there was an outage last night, which affected many players.

I don't have the authority to issue an official statement, & I'd get a good slap if I tried to.
 
However, I don't know if any Senior Managers, with the authority to explain it all, are around today, being Xmas Eve & all that.

So, because I think "it's good to talk", a few things.

For many, it happened at the nut worst time, 10.30pm on one of the busiest evenings of the year, at a time when many MTT's were coming to a climax.

Not exactly good news for the site, either, so nobody would have been exactly best pleased.

I do know that the Suits were on the "how do we settle everyone as fairly as possible" case immediately. 

Can everyone be satisfied? Unlikely.

Every player left in every MTT has the right to think they would have won it, some more than others of course. But they don't know, nor does anyone.
 
They do have "Settlement Rules for Voided MTT's" which form the basis of how they settle things. Nobody likes those T & C's, but they are what they are. 

If anyone thinks they have been badly done by in how they were settled, please contact Customer Care & explain the situation. That does not mean you'll get more, but they WILL consider each case on as fair a basis as is reasonably possible. Please note, nobody can settle these things via the Community, only Customer Care. 

Someone suggested it would have been better to wait until this morning to settle the Voided MTT's. Maybe, maybe not. The prob with that is folks demand their winnings as soon as the MTT ends. 

In these spots, it's hard to please all those who were in position to win an MTT. 

I was closely following the Ch 861 Xmas Cracker thing, & it's hard not to feel sympathy for those on the Final Table, especially the Chippie. But the others all felt the same, obv. 

For the record, & of course Sky Poker have to accept responsibility for everything, the outage was not confined to Sky Poker, it was across ALL of the SB&G sites.  

It was not caused by an internal software fault, coding error, or anything else Sky Poker or SB&G had any control over - it was upstream of the site, & would have taken ANY site down, including far bigger & better sites than this one.

Anyway, in the possible absence of the Big Suits today, & because it's good to try & explain things, I hope that helps your understanding of the situation. Which won't pay any bills, of course, but I hope it helps.  
 

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  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited December 2014


    i believe that it was a cyber attack from north london because skysports have plans to screen a documentary criticising arsene wenger.


  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Last night's issues.....:
    For the record, & of course Sky Poker have to accept responsibility for everything, the outage was not confined to Sky Poker, it was across ALL of the SB&G sites.   It was not caused by an internal software fault, coding error, or anything else Sky Poker or SB&G had any control over - it was upstream of the site, & would have taken ANY site down, including far bigger & better sites than this one.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Does this mean I was right last night, and that sky poker was the victim of hacking or ddos'ing?

    Lots of poker sites are having big issues with this atm.

    I for one would like to know which sites are beefing up security and which ones are just 'paying up' the hackers demands.

    This is a problem that has been around years and not on just gambling sites, but it seems someone, somewhere has been a lot more active with this again.
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,606
    edited December 2014
    Thanks for the prompt and full explanation Tikay.

    I am sure many (including me) will have issues with how some of the payouts were settled but if it takes a few days to sort out then so be it. No one, except the deeply religious, expects miracles over the Christmas period!
     
    On a more worrying note this has happened a few times in the past and does seem to coincide with 'busy' nights. It is certainly something Sky need to sort out as it will cost them business, I'm sure it has already.

    One a side note what was all that about you calling my all in from the small blind just before the bubble of the Christmas Cracker last night. You had A 10. I know how tight you are Tikay, you can only call with AA (or better!) there and me a fellow plopper too. Atrocious. WP on the cash and the last longer btw, you outlasted some big names there.

    I know you don't 'do' Christmas (nor do I) but have a good one and thanks for your company on the PLO8 tables over the last 12 months, it's been most enjoyable.
  • MacMonsterMacMonster Member Posts: 415
    edited December 2014
    Thanks for the message Tikay, much appreciated

    Ian
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,707
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    In Response to Last night's issues..... : Does this mean I was right last night, and that sky poker was the victim of hacking or ddos'ing? Lots of poker sites are having big issues with this atm. I for one would like to know which sites are beefing up security and which ones are just 'paying up' the hackers demands. This is a problem that has been around years and not on just gambling sites, but it seems someone, somewhere has been a lot more active with this again.
    Posted by MrWh1te
    I'm not in a position to explain more than I have, but it was not caused by any internal issues or problems at Sky Poker or SB&G.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,707
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    i believe that it was a cyber attack from north london because skysports have plans to screen a documentary criticising arsene wenger.
    Posted by aussie09
    Quite right too, NOBODY can criticise that man, imo.

    I gather Brentford, soon to be in the Premier League, have an eye on him, as it happens.
  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,620
    edited December 2014
    Nice post TK.   Oh and great play in the last longer.  Was railing FT of cracker and you gotta feel for the CL.   BTW apparently refunds are gonna be paid out using the Duckworth-Lewis method!  ;-)))    Hope you (and all @ Skypoker) have a peaceful & stress-free holiday. 
    Pad
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,707
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    Thanks for the message Tikay, much appreciated Ian
    Posted by MacMonster
    Was good to share tables with you Ian, albeit (& thankfully) not for long.

    Can't believe you turned up with a real hand, lol, I always assumed you are at it. ;) 
     
  • kopite1984kopite1984 Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2014
    Sorry but if it was something like a cyber attack we should all be told bank details etc could have been stolen 
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,707
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    Thanks for the prompt and full explanation Tikay. I am sure many (including me) will have issues with how some of the payouts were settled but if it takes a few days to sort out then so be it. No one, except the deeply religious, expects miracles over the Christmas period!   On a more worrying note this has happened a few times in the past and does seem to coincide with 'busy' nights. It is certainly something Sky need to sort out as it will cost them business, I'm sure it has already. One a side note what was all that about you calling my all in from the small blind just before the bubble of the Christmas Cracker last night. You had A 10. I know how tight you are Tikay, you can only call with AA (or better!) there and me a fellow plopper too. Atrocious. WP on the cash and the last longer btw, you outlasted some big names there. I know you don't 'do' Christmas (nor do I) but have a good one and thanks for your company on the PLO8 tables over the last 12 months, it's been most enjoyable.
    Posted by Enut
    Tuney!

    For the record, last night's issues had nothing whatsoever to do with being "busy", or volume of site traffic, it was upstream & completely unavoidable. Probably not the best time to say this, but there has not been a single outage on Sky Poker due to high traffic volumes since the new Site was launched. Other probs, yeah, but not due to the site being busy. The Site is busier than it has ever been, too, breaking records every week at the moment, though that's no consolation to those affected last night.  
     
    Nobody will be happy with their "settlements", no, but it is what it is. It's always a nasty affair when it happens, but on a wider view, worse things happen. 

    My call? I've been listening to those "experts" on 861, lol. I don't play NLH these days, as you know, but I just assumed that given your stack size, my hand was beating your probable shoving range. I won every race last night, it was amazing, I could not lose. Well until that AK v KQ jobbie slapped me round the chops, lol. It's poker, it happens. 

    Merry Christmas to you & your family, too, we've had SUCH fun on the Plopper Tables this year, I've never enjoyed my poker more.
      
  • EASYFIXEASYFIX Member Posts: 332
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues..... : I'm not in a position to explain more than I have, but it was not caused by any internal issues or problems at Sky Poker or SB&G.
    Posted by Tikay10
    As I said in a post last night my DUSKTILLDAWN crashed at the same time so it wasn't only sky that had problems...... also I posted last week about 888 crashing but there's a very big difference in the way they handled it, They said no refund tough s..t people are always going to be annoyed and frustrated when these things happen and there is no solution that will satisfy everyone....

    As I'm sure TK would confirm I'm definitely not one for blowing sunshine up skys a.s but there are times when their response is miles better than other sites and in this instance apart from not shutting it down a lot sooner I think they got it covered fairly well..............  I do find it more than a little suspicious though that in recent weeks some gaming sites seem to be having a lot of issues with their sites crashing, makes me wonder if someone is targeting them specifically...
       
  • MRBURNS4MRBURNS4 Member Posts: 1,152
    edited December 2014
    I heard the North Koreans had been told Tikay had a hand and the site went down simples.

    Ty Tikay for posting and hope you all have a good Christmas 
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,707
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    Sorry but if it was something like a cyber attack we should all be told bank details etc could have been stolen 
    Posted by kopite1984
    Hi kopite,

    The site's security was not compromised in any way, shape, or form.

    Please feel free to contact Customer Care if you have any concerns.
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,707
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    Nice post TK.   Oh and great play in the last longer.  Was railing FT of cracker and you gotta feel for the CL.   BTW apparently refunds are gonna be paid out using the Duckworth-Lewis method!  ;-)))    Hope you (and all @ Skypoker) have a peaceful & stress-free holiday.  Pad
    Posted by Glenelg
    Thanks Pad, & you too.

    Yeah, I absolutely do feel for the Xmas Cracker chippie chap, it was very unfortunate, especially for him.

    Hope you have a lovely Xmas, too.
     
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,235
    edited December 2014
    Thanks for taking time out to post Tikay, apart from the obvious obsession with strangely hued sports jackets and roundabouts you are a credit to this site.

    The epitomy of what an ambassador/facilitator/presenter/etc... should be, very well played.

    Have a very nice time over the festive period, hope santa brings you some exciting ties.

    Neil
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,757
    edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    Nice post TK.   Oh and great play in the last longer.  Was railing FT of cracker and you gotta feel for the CL.   BTW apparently refunds are gonna be paid out using the Duckworth-Lewis method!  ;-)))    Hope you (and all @ Skypoker) have a peaceful & stress-free holiday.  Pad
    Posted by Glenelg
    Duckworh Lewis ey, hope the wife appreciates the Murial ;) thanks Tikay for the info.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited December 2014
    Nice post Tikay.

    I think some people's beef is that they've slipped down the pecking order as some people still had connection and could pinch the blinds before all the tournaments were eventually paused. I was 2nd in my tournament when the issues started, but got paid for 3rd when settled, a difference of about £45. Far from the end of the world but frustrating nonetheless. I was actually running well for once! ;)

    I'd think it be better to just pause the tournament once it becomes apparent there are issues affecting a number of players, and go from there.

    Have a good festive period, I'm sure Davina will be presenting a few shows on the tellybox :)
  • rainman397rainman397 Member Posts: 1,394
    edited December 2014
    Good afternoon Sir Tikay.
    Been to quite a few Brentford games this season, and the future looks good.
    But as a fan for over 40 years part of me likes the fact that we are a small club, so wouldnt be too disappointed if we dont go up.
    All the best.
    Rainman397
    P.S £2.20 @2.20 DEEPSTACK. In Response to Re: Last night's issues.....:
    In Response to Re: Last night's issues..... : Quite right too, NOBODY can criticise that man, imo. I gather Brentford, soon to be in the Premier League, have an eye on him, as it happens.
    Posted by Tikay10
  • kopite1984kopite1984 Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2014
    Saying it is what it is is not really the right thing to say when I see some people on twitter say they were 10th got paid for 52nd or 1st got paid for 4th it's people's time and money it's not good in my opinion!!
  • kopite1984kopite1984 Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2014
    Also should we be worried about this happening again tonight as it happened few days in a row last time ??
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