Last time I felt like this was when Johnny & Denise left The Big Breakfast! Breakfast TV was never the same again, and I still go to Youtube to watch all the clips. About 14 years later. The best of the five hour shows reminded me of that. The education was great - I certainly learned a lot - but the entertainment was priceless. I have enough stress & misery day to day and this provided a relief, so yeah I'm really going to miss it. All the best wishes to everyone involved, I hope things work out well for all. And penguin too if he's still hiding somewhere in the studios. Much love! Elliot Posted by NoseyBonk
Bit of a techie question, hoping someone will know -
I'd like to keep a few show recordings, including the last one, on my Sky box.
Just wondering if the encryption Sky employ expects the original channel to be present in the EPG? I guess at some point 861 will be removed. So hoping the recordings don't 'go bad' due to the protection.
Bit of a techie question, hoping someone will know - I'd like to keep a few show recordings, including the last one, on my Sky box. Just wondering if the encryption Sky employ expects the original channel to be present in the EPG? I guess at some point 861 will be removed. So hoping the recordings don't 'go bad' due to the protection. If I know in advance I can get them onto DVD. Thanks. Posted by NoseyBonk
Don't really know, Elliott.
It remains there at the moment as "no longer available", but I guess it will disappear altogether shortly, eventually to become something else. Sky (Big Sky, the TV peeps) retained ownership of 861, which was part of the whole headache really.
Not sure why we did this, but there was a touching moment after last night's Show. After the Show finished, at 11.55, we all gathered in the gallery, to watch the very end.
At midnight exactly.....nothing happened, except the "ticker" kept going, cue mild panic in the Gallery, as the ticker is part of the Teleshopping & Compliance headache.
Chan (Director) said, "don't worry, there is a 10 secomd delay on that", & sure enough, at 10 seconds after midnight, everything disappeared, & "channel no longer available" came up.
It was all a bit emotional, in truth. I've been so busy & stressed with stuff it sort of washed over me a bit at the time, but Anna & a few others were in floods of tears, the great big silly soppy sausages. It sort of hit me a bit when I got home, but I did the psychological trick, "it's only a TV show" sorta thing. It's a defence mechanism I suppose.
Bit of a techie question, hoping someone will know - I'd like to keep a few show recordings, including the last one, on my Sky box. Just wondering if the encryption Sky employ expects the original channel to be present in the EPG? I guess at some point 861 will be removed. So hoping the recordings don't 'go bad' due to the protection. If I know in advance I can get them onto DVD. Thanks. Posted by NoseyBonk
I'm sure once u press the blue (I think) keep button and a K appears next to your recordings, it's there for keeps, until u change your box.
In Response to Re: Changes to Sky Poker TV : Don't really know, Elliott. It remains there at the moment as "no longer available", but I guess it will disappear altogether shortly, eventually to become something else. Sky (Big Sky, the TV peeps) retained ownership of 861, which was part of the whole headache really. Not sure why we did this, but there was a touching moment after last night's Show. After the Show finished, at 11.55, we all gathered in the gallery, to watch the very end. At midnight exactly.....nothing happened, except the "ticker" kept going, cue mild panic in the Gallery, as the ticker is part of the Teleshopping & Compliance headache. Chan (Director) said, "don't worry, there is a 10 secomd delay on that", & sure enough, at 10 seconds after midnight, everything disappeared, & "channel no longer available" came up. It was all a bit emotional, in truth. I've been so busy & stressed with stuff it sort of washed over me a bit at the time, but Anna & a few others were in floods of tears, the great big silly soppy sausages. It sort of hit me a bit when I got home, but I did the psychological trick, "it's only a TV show" sorta thing. It's a defence mechanism I suppose. Posted by Tikay10
It still is!
I'm definitely one of those silly soppy sausages.
I'm only about 58.37% through the show right now, which is why I'm hoping it won't vanoosh if the channel does.
In Response to Re: Changes to Sky Poker TV : I'm sure once u press the blue (I think) keep button and a K appears next to your recordings, it's there for keeps, until u change your box. Posted by joesman1
Thanks .. I don't think the protection they use would care if you 'keep' it or not. IFit expects the channel to be still 'live' in the EPG. I'm hoping it doesn't.
You know if you record something from Sky Movies and then cancel your subscription to Sky Movies - you can't watch the recording any more. Okay that's not really the same thing but it shows how their protection works.
I've just never encountered this situation where I record a show and then the channel disappears.
In Response to Re: Changes to Sky Poker TV : Don't really know, Elliott. It remains there at the moment as "no longer available", but I guess it will disappear altogether shortly, eventually to become something else. Sky (Big Sky, the TV peeps) retained ownership of 861, which was part of the whole headache really. Not sure why we did this, but there was a touching moment after last night's Show. After the Show finished, at 11.55, we all gathered in the gallery, to watch the very end. At midnight exactly.....nothing happened, except the "ticker" kept going, cue mild panic in the Gallery, as the ticker is part of the Teleshopping & Compliance headache. Chan (Director) said, "don't worry, there is a 10 secomd delay on that", & sure enough, at 10 seconds after midnight, everything disappeared, & "channel no longer available" came up. It was all a bit emotional, in truth. I've been so busy & stressed with stuff it sort of washed over me a bit at the time, but Anna & a few others were in floods of tears, the great big silly soppy sausages. It sort of hit me a bit when I got home, but I did the psychological trick, "it's only a TV show" sorta thing. It's a defence mechanism I suppose. Posted by Tikay10
I too sat and watched the channel switch itself off.
First the end of the show, then the Orford & Ryan hand rankings segment*, the ticker, then fade to blue and "channel no longer available".
It was like losing Oracle and then Ceefax all over again.
Sad times.
*this technically means that Orford ended Channel 861, another line for his CV - Closed a TV channel.
this is such a shame the TV got me into sky poker and once it was decided I and a few mates were going to Vegas it was what I used to get the basics. even got a hand on and chatted to James Hartigan. I'd only been playing a few weeks RIP you will be missed
Bit of a techie question, hoping someone will know - I'd like to keep a few show recordings, including the last one, on my Sky box. Just wondering if the encryption Sky employ expects the original channel to be present in the EPG? I guess at some point 861 will be removed. So hoping the recordings don't 'go bad' due to the protection. If I know in advance I can get them onto DVD. Thanks. Posted by NoseyBonk
861 channel no longer exists, recorded shows are still playing.
Well changes happen, they can't be helped. Had a feeling this was coming after that survey a couple of months ago. Everyone I know put down how important the channel was but I guess I don't know many people. A few of initial thoughts. 1) I really hope there is an aggressive and continuous marketing campaign for however this new model will work. The description is far too vague for us to know now but without a base like ch. 861, a successful business will really have to bang out the advertising to attract new players. And obviously not via just Twitter or facebook, those people already follow you so already know you and just marketing there is clearly pointless. Losing the base channel is losing the biggest method of attracting new players, I really hope the marketing plan is already in place. 2) Please follow through with 'some new ideas which we will share at a later date' and 'some exciting plans for it and the Sky Poker community will still be a big part of it.' Claims like these over the years to a cynic could be described as a fob off as it has not always been clear these things ever arrived. 3) Losing this alongside a long absence of a regional affordable tour feels like a break away from grass roots poker, an area Skypoker was easily the UK leader in and frankly what made this site a lot more fun than many others. I hope future plans are focussed on this and what gave Skypoker such a great niche isn't lost in the shuffle. Posted by TommyD
In Response to Re: Changes to Sky Poker TV : Don't really know, Elliott. It remains there at the moment as "no longer available", but I guess it will disappear altogether shortly, eventually to become something else. Sky (Big Sky, the TV peeps) retained ownership of 861, which was part of the whole headache really. Not sure why we did this, but there was a touching moment after last night's Show. After the Show finished, at 11.55, we all gathered in the gallery, to watch the very end. At midnight exactly.....nothing happened, except the "ticker" kept going, cue mild panic in the Gallery, as the ticker is part of the Teleshopping & Compliance headache. Chan (Director) said, "don't worry, there is a 10 secomd delay on that", & sure enough, at 10 seconds after midnight, everything disappeared, & "channel no longer available" came up. It was all a bit emotional, in truth. I've been so busy & stressed with stuff it sort of washed over me a bit at the time, but Anna & a few others were in floods of tears, the great big silly soppy sausages. It sort of hit me a bit when I got home, but I did the psychological trick, "it's only a TV show" sorta thing. It's a defence mechanism I suppose. Posted by Tikay10
Sorry but it is an abysmal way to stop . I am now forced to rank your site as just another poker site from something I regarded as a friend which gave me honest advice , Now all gone . As promises are too wishy washy and vague.
I am very,very sorry and sad that Sky Poker Channel 861 has ended.It hasn't sunk in yet and I can hardly believe it.However I recall Doyle Brunson's thoughts after he ended his WSOP Main Event career-'I am sorry it is over but I am pleased it happened at all and went on for so long'.I am posting as I owe a great deal to Ch861[No pun intended].I was suffering from depression following a bereavement when I discovered Ch861[then 865] in Jan '13 but it immediately gave me something new and challenging to focus on and my state of mind gradually improved and I am now okay again. No one needs me to tell them how excellent the analysts have been-Jen,Ryan,Stu,Redmond,Joe,Ross and Karl-but I shall always remember how genuinely modest they all were,and I have learnt valuable lessons from them all -not just about poker but also about how to behave on and off the table and treat everyone with respect and kindness.For what my opinion is worth,my favourite guest was Jamie Sykes,perhaps followed by Simon Deadman and Simon Hemsworth but even during the 2 years I have watched there have been too many splendid ones to recall and the standard has of course been almost universally high.But in a category all of his own at the very top is the legendary Neil Channing.No words of praise from me for the great man could ever get close to doing him justice.[Ambassdor?He should be made a Lord or at least Knighted as an absolute mnimum] Thanks also to the back-room staff,and the presenters and of course TeKay without whom much would not have happened and especially the players without whom nothing would have been possible.At least now I have more time to play poker and I hope to have the privilege of meeting many from the wonderful Sky Poker community at forthcoming live events.Very Best Wishes,and thanks again to everyone.
I am very,very sorry and sad that Sky Poker Channel 861 has ended.It hasn't sunk in yet and I can hardly believe it.However I recall Doyle Brunson's thoughts after he ended his WSOP Main Event career-'I am sorry it is over but I am pleased it happened at all and went on for so long'.I am posting as I owe a great deal to Ch861[No pun intended].I was suffering from depression following a bereavement when I discovered Ch861[then 865] in Jan '13 but it immediately gave me something new and challenging to focus on and my state of mind gradually improved and I am now okay again. No one needs me to tell them how excellent the analysts have been-Jen,Ryan,Stu,Redmond,Joe,Ross and Karl-but I shall always remember how genuinely modest they all were,and I have learnt valuable lessons from them all -not just about poker but also about how to behave on and off the table and treat everyone with respect and kindness.For what my opinion is worth,my favourite guest was Jamie Sykes,perhaps followed by Simon Deadman and Simon Hemsworth but even during the 2 years I have watched there have been too many splendid ones to recall and the standard has of course been almost universally high.But in a category all of his own at the very top is the legendary Neil Channing.No words of praise from me for the great man could ever get close to doing him justice.[Ambassdor?He should be made a Lord or at least Knighted as an absolute mnimum] Thanks also to the back-room staff,and the presenters and of course TeKay without whom much would not have happened and especially the players without whom nothing would have been possible.At least now I have more time to play poker and I hope to have the privilege of meeting many from the wonderful Sky Poker community at forthcoming live events.Very Best Wishes,and thanks again to everyone. Posted by dofferdag9
Wow. I've read some amazing posts on here, but that one possibly tops the lot.
So gratifying and humbling to know that something you worked on was appreciated in that way.
Thanks dofferdag on behalf of everyone at the channel and whilst I'm here, thanks to everyone who posted on here and the final show thread with messages of support and appreciation.
Wasn't it a terrific final show with Anna and Tikay? Really quite emotional and even a bad cardboard cut-out of me didn't spoil it. Top marks all round for everyone associated with that last 861 broadcast.
Remember- we will carry on, but just in a different way. Hope to see you all for my next live show on Sky Sports at 10pm on Tuesday 31st March with the old timer.
In Response to Re: Changes to Sky Poker TV : Wow. I've read some amazing posts on here, but that one possibly tops the lot. So gratifying and humbling to know that something you worked on was appreciated in that way. Thanks dofferdag on behalf of everyone at the channel and whilst I'm here, thanks to everyone who posted on here and the final show thread with messages of support and appreciation. Wasn't it a terrific final show with Anna and Tikay? Really quite emotional and even a bad cardboard cut-out of me didn't spoil it. Top marks all round for everyone associated with that last 861 broadcast. Remember- we will carry on, but just in a different way. Hope to see you all for my next live show on Sky Sports at 10pm on Tuesday 31st March with the old timer. Yeah- try as we might, we can't get rid of him. Posted by RICHORFORD
Yeah great post Doffer.
I think there's a lot of us who felt the same way and loved the show. Settling in on a Sunday night with the live show in the background had become a regular event, last night just didn't feel quite the same. Thankfully there was Barcelona V Madrid to fill the void and as well as quite a few a regulars railing the Roller and livening up the chatbox. You just don't get that on any other site so a big thumbs up to Ivanovich, Tommy D and all the others who were chipping in and providing some entertainment - lets hope that community aspect doesn't die along with 861.
I am very,very sorry and sad that Sky Poker Channel 861 has ended.It hasn't sunk in yet and I can hardly believe it.However I recall Doyle Brunson's thoughts after he ended his WSOP Main Event career-'I am sorry it is over but I am pleased it happened at all and went on for so long'.I am posting as I owe a great deal to Ch861[No pun intended].I was suffering from depression following a bereavement when I discovered Ch861[then 865] in Jan '13 but it immediately gave me something new and challenging to focus on and my state of mind gradually improved and I am now okay again. No one needs me to tell them how excellent the analysts have been-Jen,Ryan,Stu,Redmond,Joe,Ross and Karl-but I shall always remember how genuinely modest they all were,and I have learnt valuable lessons from them all -not just about poker but also about how to behave on and off the table and treat everyone with respect and kindness.For what my opinion is worth,my favourite guest was Jamie Sykes,perhaps followed by Simon Deadman and Simon Hemsworth but even during the 2 years I have watched there have been too many splendid ones to recall and the standard has of course been almost universally high.But in a category all of his own at the very top is the legendary Neil Channing.No words of praise from me for the great man could ever get close to doing him justice.[Ambassdor?He should be made a Lord or at least Knighted as an absolute mnimum] Thanks also to the back-room staff,and the presenters and of course TeKay without whom much would not have happened and especially the players without whom nothing would have been possible.At least now I have more time to play poker and I hope to have the privilege of meeting many from the wonderful Sky Poker community at forthcoming live events.Very Best Wishes,and thanks again to everyone. Posted by dofferdag9
Only just seen this - wow, what a lovely Post.
For the record, Mr Channing already has a title - Lord Grumpy.
It was a bit sad for all of us, yes, of course, but life goes on, & we'll all be fine.
But no regrets from me, we had 8 great years, it was a great freeroll in some ways, & I gave it eveything I could, left nothing on the table. That's all we can ever hope to do.
The Community? Fingers crossed it will continue to thrive, which is part of what I try to help with. We poker players do love a little grumble & chunter, most of us do I suppose, but most people soon get these things in their proper context.
Thank you very much for those kind words. My Twitter Feed, & the Show on Thursday, were flooded with lovely comments, & they mean a great deal. Anna piped her eye - the big soft soppy sausage - but I'm a man, well hard, so I was OK.
Sky poker channel was where i decided to dip my toe into poker partly because of the community feel. Otherwise poker, initially, can be a lonely sojourn i feel. It's surprising but when THS decided to have regional competitions people look forward to meeting up and see the money involved as a reasonable cost in order to meet friends. Sky poker started this and i hope they aren't going to lose sight of that or their base following may well disappear. What a shame that would be for us all.
It's not just the live shows I miss - 861 was my 'default channel' which I could always listen to in the background even if I wasn't watching 100%, because it was great but also didn't have adverts! Any time of day. Now I have nowhere except BBC depressing News that doesn't have adverts :-(
Don't watch the News NoseyBonk it's always depressing, watch the WSOP Main Event repeats on YouTube instead, there's plenty of them and they are much more fun.
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I'd like to keep a few show recordings, including the last one, on my Sky box.
Just wondering if the encryption Sky employ expects the original channel to be present in the EPG? I guess at some point 861 will be removed.
So hoping the recordings don't 'go bad' due to the protection.
If I know in advance I can get them onto DVD.
Thanks.
It remains there at the moment as "no longer available", but I guess it will disappear altogether shortly, eventually to become something else. Sky (Big Sky, the TV peeps) retained ownership of 861, which was part of the whole headache really.
Not sure why we did this, but there was a touching moment after last night's Show. After the Show finished, at 11.55, we all gathered in the gallery, to watch the very end.
At midnight exactly.....nothing happened, except the "ticker" kept going, cue mild panic in the Gallery, as the ticker is part of the Teleshopping & Compliance headache.
Chan (Director) said, "don't worry, there is a 10 secomd delay on that", & sure enough, at 10 seconds after midnight, everything disappeared, & "channel no longer available" came up.
It was all a bit emotional, in truth. I've been so busy & stressed with stuff it sort of washed over me a bit at the time, but Anna & a few others were in floods of tears, the great big silly soppy sausages. It sort of hit me a bit when I got home, but I did the psychological trick, "it's only a TV show" sorta thing. It's a defence mechanism I suppose.
I'm definitely one of those silly soppy sausages.
I'm only about 58.37% through the show right now, which is why I'm hoping it won't vanoosh if the channel does.
You know if you record something from Sky Movies and then cancel your subscription to Sky Movies - you can't watch the recording any more. Okay that's not really the same thing but it shows how their protection works.
I've just never encountered this situation where I record a show and then the channel disappears.
First the end of the show, then the Orford & Ryan hand rankings segment*, the ticker, then fade to blue and "channel no longer available".
It was like losing Oracle and then Ceefax all over again.
Sad times.
*this technically means that Orford ended Channel 861, another line for his CV - Closed a TV channel.
the TV got me into sky poker and once it was decided I and a few mates were going to Vegas it was what I used to get the basics.
even got a hand on and chatted to James Hartigan. I'd only been playing a few weeks
RIP you will be missed
No one needs me to tell them how excellent the analysts have been-Jen,Ryan,Stu,Redmond,Joe,Ross and Karl-but I shall always remember how genuinely modest they all were,and I have learnt valuable lessons from them all -not just about poker but also about how to behave on and off the table and treat everyone with respect and kindness.For what my opinion is worth,my favourite guest was Jamie Sykes,perhaps followed by Simon Deadman and Simon Hemsworth but even during the 2 years I have watched there have been too many splendid ones to recall and the standard has of course been almost universally high.But in a category all of his own at the very top is the legendary Neil Channing.No words of praise from me for the great man could ever get close to doing him justice.[Ambassdor?He should be made a Lord or at least Knighted as an absolute mnimum] Thanks also to the back-room staff,and the presenters and of course TeKay without whom much would not have happened and especially the players without whom nothing would have been possible.At least now I have more time to play poker and I hope to have the privilege of meeting many from the wonderful Sky Poker community at forthcoming live events.Very Best Wishes,and thanks again to everyone.
I think there's a lot of us who felt the same way and loved the show. Settling in on a Sunday night with the live show in the background had become a regular event, last night just didn't feel quite the same. Thankfully there
was Barcelona V Madrid to fill the void and as well as quite a few a regulars railing the Roller and livening up the chatbox. You just don't get that on any other site so a big thumbs up to Ivanovich, Tommy D and all the others who were chipping in and providing some entertainment - lets hope that community aspect doesn't die along with 861.
For the record, Mr Channing already has a title - Lord Grumpy.
It was a bit sad for all of us, yes, of course, but life goes on, & we'll all be fine.
But no regrets from me, we had 8 great years, it was a great freeroll in some ways, & I gave it eveything I could, left nothing on the table. That's all we can ever hope to do.
The Community? Fingers crossed it will continue to thrive, which is part of what I try to help with. We poker players do love a little grumble & chunter, most of us do I suppose, but most people soon get these things in their proper context.
Thank you very much for those kind words. My Twitter Feed, & the Show on Thursday, were flooded with lovely comments, & they mean a great deal. Anna piped her eye - the big soft soppy sausage - but I'm a man, well hard, so I was OK.
here's my latest thoughts....
if the number of people watching the skysports show is high then there will be more shows. very high and there may be more shows a week.
861 was good, but maybe skysports was the better option all along
so, watch skysports at 10pm on tuesday.
you never know what good things might happen if you do.