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IF...................

HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV Member Posts: 8,688
edited April 2015 in Poker Chat
IF

IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
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  • HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV Member Posts: 8,688
    edited April 2015
    I know many of You from Tables &  SPTs,  been to 14ish I reckon.
    I Have Joined in The Community & tried to help it thrive since 2009
    I Helped Run the Forum DTD League with Founders Michael & Chris over 3 years
    I defended TK & fourmites when attacked by Nasty trolls now Sky Banned.
    I started FOSP to support this, now run by a Team of Sky Loyal admins
    I Started the Forum DTD Team League  nealry 5 Years ago, now run bt Jono
    I Helped Initially organise the EXCELLENT forum DTD 'Live', VWP Duncan Michael Chris
    I have met with many of You, Drunk, Laffed & played Poker.

    .........so You can see i have committed alot to help OUR Community Succeed



    Unfortunately, Petty Rivalry, maybe clash of personality, seems to have caused a few to seek to Blacken my Name.

    Last nights accusations of Cheating & colluding on DTD Nite were Untrue & very Hurtful!


    The Folks who Know Me, Know that i would never allow this to happen in My Team HitSquad or in my Play.

    I am a Sportsmen, why I probably ending up Captaining the AFA & getting 2nd most Amatuer Caps for a representitive side in England in My footballing Days.


    I was drawn into a situation 6 weeks ago, not of my initiation, where pms, initially innocent, went to an uncomfortable area, with a newish Squaddie at time. Seems now a deliberate Trap.

    I realised this was wrong, and tried to explain, but what started as innocent help was already kinda too late, but reported it anyway, so it hopefully dont happen in front of me again!

    I blame no other Team, or Group, and say sorry, as this kind of Area should not be gone near, esp on Monday DTD nites.

    I have clear Conscience with regard to Sky rules tho & Hope all can Move on!!
    I hope I still have your Trust & wish The Integrity & Honour built here with Sky remains intact.



    People have clashed, doing ALL of US & Community No Good at all


    Shi,t Happens!!


    .............its how we deal with that maketh Man.

    GL ALL!!




    [Hate looking a Drama Fookin Queen sry, that aint Me!! Just want to defend myself]
  • MADWCMADWC Member Posts: 11
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: IF...................:
    I HAVE 110% FAITH IN MY CAPO THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY INCLINATION OF ANY SORT OF BEHIND THE SCENES COLLUDING OR CHAT , WE ARE A HONEST TEAM WHO PLAY TO WIN AND WE PLAY FAIR ALWAYS NO MATTER WHO WERE UP AGAINST . i believe david to be a man of his word an integrity means a lot to him anyone who knows him personally will testify to that he's not the type to use cheap tactics to gain a hollow win . we set high standards in THS an will continue to do so . 
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited April 2015

    wihy not run for FIFA president, dave?

    you'd get many votes.




  • luvBWFCluvBWFC Member Posts: 763
    edited April 2015

    Sure it's all baseless! Carry on Capo-ing!

  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited April 2015
    I am shocked and saddened by the accusations made yesterday.

    I play poker for fun and I particularly enjoy the Monday night DTD & the Thursday Hi Lo night.

    I have been a member of The Hit Squad for a couple of years now and have found Hitman RV to be a man of the highest integrity. He says things how he sees them. As we Yorkshiremen say, "He calls a spade, a spade." We have had a number of conversations within our team about behaviour in team events and Hitman has everytime said that everyone must play their own game and that colluding will not be accepted within our team.

    From time to time, new members suggest things that he considers outside of the correct behaviour and he always puts them straight, saying that if they want to play outside of total fair play then they shouldn't be part of this team.

    We had an incidence recently with one player, who suggested to me that we should collude in the DTD competition. I told him where to go and said that we didn't do that in THS and reported this to Hitman RV. It appears that he was making similar suggestions to Hitman himself.

    We were still considering how to deal with this when the player left and joined another team so we didn't need to act over his "ideas." Sadly, it appears that this person has now tried to tarnish the name of one of the bastions of SKY Poker. If there were a genuine Hall of Fame for unselfish work on behalf of SKY Poker then Hitman RV would be one of the first names in there. Shame on this person for his shabby accusations and greater shame on anyone that believes him or backs him. Hopefully, he will disappear as quickly as he appeared.

    I accept that Hitman RV may divide opinions because of his brusque personality but he is honest, loyal and totally trustworthy and I am proud to call him a true friend who has gone out of his way to help me and my family.
  • RossMcRossMc Member Posts: 159
    edited April 2015
    Since I arrived at Sky Poker a few years ago and thought "I'll give this Hit Squad team thing a bash" I've seen nothing but incredible things from Dave, the many hats he wears to make sure everythign runs smooth and the little things he doesn't have to do but does anyway because he's a top guy.
  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,640
    edited April 2015


    Unproven accusations from a handful of individuals is all this is. Those who are trying to smear Hitman's good name and reputation should actually look at their own reputations and behaviour.

     There are people in this world who do stuff to benefit others, and others who just try to knock them down. The majority of this Forum knows how much Hitman gives to. and helps the WHOLE community, along with overseeing his own poker team. 

    Haters are going to hate. A sad indictment of today's internet society. People can often be manipulated by a few wrong ones to believe their lies and hype. 

    I hope for the sake of all, that the teams and the Sky Poker Community can move forward to insure things prosper for the future.
  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited April 2015
    I have been playing the forum DTD for many years now, and I have every admiration for those who give up their free time in organising it. 

    I also have a great admiration for those who organise and run the teams that participate.

    I have known Dave for a lot of years, shared some poker tables and sat at a few bars with him, and I always take people as I find them, and I personally find Dave to be one of stalwarts of Sky Poker, and consider him as one of my Poker friends.

    I have been a member of TPT since it more or less started, and the DTD has always been a fun event, as it was last night, with team members from all the teams involved in "friendly banter" in the chatbox, etc.  The live event in Newcastle was even better, with players from all teams socialising together.

    I am not a member of hitsquad, so I cannot comment on how Dave runs his team, and as an old fuddy duddy who is never on facebook, I cannot comment about anything that is going on there.  I do think though, that whatever grievances are held, by parties on either side of the argument, the forum DTD is not the place to air them.  Further to that, I saw a post that was hinting at this argument would be settled at a forum DTD live event.  That will just not be allowed to happen.

    I have many friends, I hope, in all of the different teams on here, and would not want the atmosphere we had in Newcastle soured by these disputes.

    I look forward to meeting everyone at the next event. I am buying a pint for any drama queens that turn up, in order to promote harmony (not the hairspray).

    Craig
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,485
    edited April 2015
    Illegitimi non carborundum




  • MacMonsterMacMonster Member Posts: 415
    edited April 2015
    Ithink its a shame that the DTD league which brings so much pleaseure to so many should be used as a target for unfounded accusations. 

    I have always found Dave Harvey to be one of the hardest working individuals on Sky and on the running of the Hitsquad team (of which I am very proud to be a member), his enthusiasm is second to none and he has contributed greatly to the success of this forum and his team.

    Dave you have my full support in this and all matters.

    Ian
  • johnfrumjohnfrum Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2015
    To be fair, he's not a very good hitman, but he is a very good leader, in words and deeds. Always found him to be forthright and honest. THS is a large team, strong leadership is required for team harmony, success and longevity. cheers Hitman. Rex
  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited April 2015
    Since Dave got me drunk and forced me to join the Hitsquad some two and a half years ago, I have felt a great deal of admiration and respect for the man.  He has something that I sadly find wanting in most human beings today; integrity.  Whether that be in the way he plays the game or just the way he interacts with people.

    I find the accusations of foul play sad and indicative of the universal deficiency of integrity, but I know it's nothing the man can't take in his stride.

    #InHitmanWeTrust
  • HullplayerHullplayer Member Posts: 32
    edited April 2015
    Accusations will be proven 

    Hitman is a cheat 
  • Nuggy962Nuggy962 Member Posts: 1,104
    edited April 2015
    Man o man, what the **** is happening to this community - is fast becoming less civilised and more like a play ground! Everyday I come on it is just arguments, accusations and pointless posts with people biting. 

    And for even now the DTD Mondays to get trolled is just crazy. I think everyone in the know would not think twice about a silly accusation like this. Sad times! 

    This community WILL fall apart if something is not done to change the mood of it. All it takes is some of the greats like hitman or Aussie, garyQQQ who do so much to keep it alive to give in to the trolls and stop helping the site with results, mtt's, leagues etc and then will be a ghost town full of rivermonkey bad beat stories or rigged posts.

    Save our community :)

  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,889
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: IF...................:
    Unproven accusations from a handful of individuals is all this is. Those who are trying to smear Hitman's good name and reputation should actually look at their own reputations and behaviour.  There are people in this world who do stuff to benefit others, and others who just try to knock them down. The majority of this Forum knows how much Hitman gives to. and helps the WHOLE community, along with overseeing his own poker team.  Haters are going to hate. A sad indictment of today's internet society. People can often be manipulated by a few wrong ones to believe their lies and hype.  I hope for the sake of all, that the teams and the Sky Poker Community can move forward to insure things prosper for the future.
    Posted by MAXALLY
    hear hear.

  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: IF...................:
    Man o man, what the **** is happening to this community - is fast becoming less civilised and more like a play ground! Everyday I come on it is just arguments, accusations and pointless posts with people biting.  And for even now the DTD Mondays to get trolled is just crazy. I think everyone in the know would not think twice about a silly accusation like this. Sad times!  This community WILL fall apart if something is not done to change the mood of it. All it takes is some of the greats like hitman or Aussie, garyQQQ who do so much to keep it alive to give in to the trolls and stop helping the site with results, mtt's, leagues etc and then will be a ghost town full of rivermonkey bad beat stories or rigged posts. Save our community :)
    Posted by Nuggy962
    Think it is only two or three trolls but if the decent folk start to believe their bile then they can destroy much of what is good.
  • mrs_baltimrs_balti Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2015
    There's not much I can add that has not been said already. Unfortunately, I have witnessed other attempts to break Dave's spirit and, if I think about it, the indiiduals behind these initiatives  share a lot of personaility  traits I can only (and barely) tolerate in children,  But this is not about them, not really interested, this is just a humble homage to the endurance and integrity of somebody that, despite everything and all the painful situations he's been put through, refuses to give in and continues to face the music so he can carry on doing something he feels passionate about. 
    For this, hats off to you sir!
  • mrs_baltimrs_balti Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2015
    There's not much I can add that has not been said already. Unfortunately, I have witnessed other attempts to break Dave's spirit and, if I think about it, the indiiduals behind these initiatives  share a lot of personaility  traits I can only (and barely) tolerate in children,  But this is not about them, not really interested, this is just a humble homage to the endurance and integrity of somebody that, despite everything and all the painful situations he's been put through, refuses to give in and continues to face the music so he can carry on doing something he feels passionate about. 
    For this, hats off to you sir!
  • BrrrrrrrBrrrrrrr Member Posts: 4,223
    edited April 2015
    In Response to Re: IF...................:
    Unproven accusations from a handful of individuals is all this is. Those who are trying to smear Hitman's good name and reputation should actually look at their own reputations and behaviour.  There are people in this world who do stuff to benefit others, and others who just try to knock them down. The majority of this Forum knows how much Hitman gives to. and helps the WHOLE community, along with overseeing his own poker team.  Haters are going to hate. A sad indictment of today's internet society. People can often be manipulated by a few wrong ones to believe their lies and hype.  I hope for the sake of all, that the teams and the Sky Poker Community can move forward to insure things prosper for the future.
    Posted by MAXALLY
    Well said!
  • wasylm2003wasylm2003 Member Posts: 44
    edited April 2015
    I fully endorse everything everyone has been said above much more eloquently than I can. For my tuppenceworth I would sum David up in 9 words. A gentleman, a scholar and a man of honour. 

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