My feelings towards the Omaha Main Event: - £50 buy-in, certainly no more than that - Would like to make it a double chance given that a lot of people playing would most likely have a second bullet given that it is the only Omaha Main Event we've ever held - Wouldn't want to make it unlimited rebuys as it would then go a bit crazy (mind you I quite like that sometimes) Who knows, maybe we'll have a PLO Rebuy side event ;-) Posted by Sky_Dan
My view is that a double chance automatically increases the craziness because a significant number of players will see this as an opportunity to double up early and if it doesn't work then they take the second chance.
Where this falls down from a tournament perspective is that it discourages the players with smaller bankrolls that would love to play PLO main event because effectively, you need £100 to be able to compete on a level playing field.
At a time when there has been a lot of debate about encouraging the recreational player, a double chance favours the players with the deepest pockets with the result and many recreational players will be discouraged from playing.
I dont think there is the demand for a plo main event. Its ok a few people posting on the forum saying thats what they would like to see but most people dont post on the forum and all you have to do is to look at the numbers when plo has been a side event in the last 2 years and you will see these have got the lowest numbers out of any event having it as a main event would be madness.
You see stars having different varients in their series but sky simply operate within a different market from stars. Therefore there just simply wont be enough players that will actually play it to make it worthwhile.
In Response to Re: UKOPS XIV - What Would You Like To See? : My view is that a double chance automatically increases the craziness because a significant number of players will see this as an opportunity to double up early and if it doesn't work then they take the second chance. Where this falls down from a tournament perspective is that it discourages the players with smaller bankrolls that would love to play PLO main event because effectively, you need £100 to be able to compete on a level playing field. At a time when there has been a lot of debate about encouraging the recreational player, a double chance favours the players with the deepest pockets with the result and many recreational players will be discouraged from playing. Posted by Ice_Tiger
Hi Tiger,
I don't believe there is a Double Chance Omaha in the schedule, but I do not know the exact details of it yet. There is at least one Omaha Rebuy.
Sky Poker may see this differently to me, but to my mind, a "Double Chance" is NOT a re-entry or rebuy. In a "Live" Double Chance (perhaps Online it is different) you only pay a single Entry Fee, & get 50% of your chips at the outset, &, usually, can take the remaining 50% at any time in the first x levels. You then have to take them at the end of (say) Level 4. You do not pay for the second tranche of chips.
I'll ask the Suits to clarify this - they MAY mean a "single rebuy", I don't know.
If it is a single rebuy, my personal view is that "Double Chance" is the incorrect term.
It's good that we can debate these matters before it is too late, so you make a good point, imo.
Sorry for any confusion - I did actually mean a single rebuy.
I understand that there hasn't been a big demand for an Omaha Main Event in the past but there's no harm in trying IMO. It's going to be a big festival, let's have a bit of variety.
No firm decision has been made as to whether it's a freezeout or single rebuy, a few of us have been discussing it this past few days. I just think given that we never have a big Omaha tournament we should allow two bullets for those that are keen players.
There will be satellites into the Main Events remember so there will be multiple ways to qualify for less.
Sorry for any confusion - I did actually mean a single rebuy. I understand that there hasn't been a big demand for an Omaha Main Event in the past but there's no harm in trying IMO. It's going to be a big festival, let's have a bit of variety. No firm decision has been made as to whether it's a freezeout or single rebuy, a few of us have been discussing it this past few days. I just think given that we never have a big Omaha tournament we should allow two bullets for those that are keen players. There will be satellites into the Main Events remember so there will be multiple ways to qualify for less. Posted by Sky_Dan
Agree with that. If it goes wrong, the worst that happens is it cost Sky Poker a few bob, & they won't run it again.
Think it's a great decision to at least give it a whirl.
In Response to Re: UKOPS XIV - What Would You Like To See? : Agree with that. If it goes wrong, the worst that happens is it cost Sky Poker a few bob, & they won't run it again. Think it's a great decision to at least give it a whirl. Posted by Tikay10
My concern is that its like all the other threads we have had in the past for UKOPS etc when various people on the forum say they want deepstacks then the numbers for these events are poor and a lot of the people who asked for deepstacks dont play the events.
In Response to Re: UKOPS XIV - What Would You Like To See? : My concern is that its like all the other threads we have had in the past for UKOPS etc when various people on the forum say they want deepstacks then the numbers for these events are poor and a lot of the people who asked for deepstacks dont play the events. Posted by MattBates
That's fair comment Matt, it's a calculated risk that Sky Poker may make, & the worst that will happen is it costs them money.
In Response to Re: UKOPS XIV - What Would You Like To See? : My concern is that its like all the other threads we have had in the past for UKOPS etc when various people on the forum say they want deepstacks then the numbers for these events are poor and a lot of the people who asked for deepstacks dont play the events. Posted by MattBates
I am one of the people who has asked for deepstacks but i also have a small BR so while I might would happily enter a £5 BI Deepstack i would have to rely on the availability of satellites to enter one with a £22 or £33 BI.
If such a BI Deestack took place without me in it, it doesn't mean I wasn't supporting it, just that I didn't play well enough to qualify through a satellite!
I am very excited to think that we could get main events in PLO/PLO8. I hope that the satellites for these will be in the same format and not NLHE. Posted by pompeynic
Or not just all-in sats like last time for the PLO event
You will be able to qualify for any of the Main Events earlier than on the day, let me be clear about that.
The PLO Main Event will have PLO satellites (that are not just all-in affairs). The guarantee on this tournament will of course be lower than some of the other events.
PLO bounty hunter. Please make this happen. Posted by hhyftrftdr
I agree with Harry.
Not sure these will get much support as ME-level buy-ins (as noted above), but chuck out something in the micro-UKOPS £2.20-£5.50, maybe even with a rebuy option, and I'm sure there are enough people that would be happy to donk off in this.
You will be able to qualify for any of the Main Events earlier than on the day, let me be clear about that. The PLO Main Event will have PLO satellites (that are not just all-in affairs). The guarantee on this tournament will of course be lower than some of the other events. Posted by Sky_Dan
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I don't believe there is a Double Chance Omaha in the schedule, but I do not know the exact details of it yet. There is at least one Omaha Rebuy.
Sky Poker may see this differently to me, but to my mind, a "Double Chance" is NOT a re-entry or rebuy. In a "Live" Double Chance (perhaps Online it is different) you only pay a single Entry Fee, & get 50% of your chips at the outset, &, usually, can take the remaining 50% at any time in the first x levels. You then have to take them at the end of (say) Level 4. You do not pay for the second tranche of chips.
I'll ask the Suits to clarify this - they MAY mean a "single rebuy", I don't know.
If it is a single rebuy, my personal view is that "Double Chance" is the incorrect term.
It's good that we can debate these matters before it is too late, so you make a good point, imo.
Think it's a great decision to at least give it a whirl.
All the best.
Rainman397
I hope that the satellites for these will be in the same format and not NLHE.
PLO bounty hunter. Please make this happen.
Not sure these will get much support as ME-level buy-ins (as noted above), but chuck out something in the micro-UKOPS £2.20-£5.50, maybe even with a rebuy option, and I'm sure there are enough people that would be happy to donk off in this.
Full details very soon, but early November is solid.