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oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,626
edited November 2015 in Poker Chat


All you have to do is win the UKOPS Main Event, & you'll get the bonus of a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC Seat.
 
Easy game. Ish.
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited November 2015
    Is this added to the prize pool or taken from the prize pool?
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,626
    edited November 2015

    Good question, Matthew.

    It is added to the guarantee.

    So if the comp fails to hit the guarantee, it is added to the prize pool.

    If the comp makes more than £41,100, it is part of the prize pool.

    Does that make sense?

    In effect, the guarantee has been increased from £40,000 to £41,100.
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited November 2015
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.:
    Good question, Matthew. It is added to the guarantee. So if the comp fails to hit the guarantee, it is added to the prize pool. If the comp makes more than £41,100, it is part of the prize pool. Does that make sense? In effect, the guarantee has been increased from £40,000 to £41,100.
    Posted by Tikay10
    So it's taken from the prize pool! Thanks for answering
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  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited November 2015
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.:
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today. : So it's taken from the prize pool! Thanks for answering
    Posted by MattBates
    Should be taken from your bankroll imo :)

    Good luck tonight.
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  • ommomm Member Posts: 444
    edited November 2015
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.:
    Good question, Matthew. It is added to the guarantee. So if the comp fails to hit the guarantee, it is added to the prize pool. If the comp makes more than £41,100, it is part of the prize pool. Does that make sense? In effect, the guarantee has been increased from £40,000 to £41,100.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Is this a definite Tikay? Isn't it abit late in the day to potentially be taking £1100 from the prizepool and making it a seat? Wasn't all of the other seats on offer throughout UKOPS added to the prizepool? (Big chance I'm wrong on that)

    Edit: based on the guarantee being smashed obviously. 

    Edit edit: and your 1st post does say a bonus.
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited November 2015
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.:
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today. : Is this a definite Tikay? Isn't it abit late in the day to potentially be taking £1100 from the prizepool and making it a seat? Wasn't all of the other seats on offer throughout UKOPS added to the prizepool? (Big chance I'm wrong on that) Edit: based on the guarantee being smashed obviously.  Edit edit: and your 1st post does say a bonus.
    Posted by omm
    No, the other seats were in fact taken from the prizepool too!
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  • ommomm Member Posts: 444
    edited November 2015
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.:
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today. : No, the other seats were in fact taken from the prizepool too!
    Posted by MattBates
    Oh dear. 
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited November 2015
    First i was aware that the other seats on the previous nights wernt added value and were infact taken from the prizepool its dissapointing the way this was worded as unless you looked into the figures there was no added value and the players were mislead.  Only noticed this when i looked into the numbers.  Then to hear that £1100 will be taken from the prizepool is very dissapointing especially at a last minute announcement on the day of the tournament.

    Very dissapointing overall and very poor as a last minute announcement.



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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November 2015
    this is unfair to the already paying customers for a number of reasons, most notably what if they can't make the live tournament? If they can't, then will a refund be issued? If yes, then what's the point of the offering? If no, then it seems extremely unfair since the tournament prizepool was changed on the final day. more issues too, but this should definitely be reversed 
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited November 2015
    I have to say doing this has annoyed me, earlier in the week you made out that the seats were added to the prizepool. In effect sky are deciding what to do with the prizepool by deciding some of the prizepool goes to a main event seat. Now today you use the term bonus when in fact again you are deciding what to do with some of the prizepool. 

    The worst thing is so many players wont realise what you have done as what players calculate the prizepool when bonus seats are on offer. 

    Poor decsision and poor wording of the decision.
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  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited November 2015

    +1

    i think that this is a big mistake, if true. 

    you will remember the employment laws that were introduced to stop workers being paid in vouchers that could only be spent in the factory shop.






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  • ommomm Member Posts: 444
    edited November 2015
    I think it's a lot easier with this sort of thing if it is all planned and known in advance if the seats are coming out of the prizepool (and not added as additional prizes at the last minute). Don't think it will stop many people playing but at least the choice is there and bigger than this is the fact that people will be aware, as it stands the majority will not realise, of course they may not care anyway! Apart from the 25k £11 tournaments I'm sure the mains have not had overlay so saying the guarantee has increased is really just a marketing trick at best and skullduggery at worse. 
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  • Sky_SamTSky_SamT Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 984
    edited November 2015
    Hi All,

    I have taken all the comments onboard and realised this is too late in the day to make the change for an event such as the UKOPS main. Therefore the guarantee will revert back to 40k and the seat awarded as a complete bonus to the winner.

    I can assure no "skullduggery" was intended here it was purely seen on my part as a bonus. I can see however from feedback here and sepereately from Tikay that this was a mistake. 

    So back to 40k and good luck tonight, it promises to be a good one.

    Sam
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited November 2015
    Thanks Sam, nice work. We appreciate the quick response to the issue :)
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  • ommomm Member Posts: 444
    edited November 2015
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.:
    Hi All, I have taken all the comments onboard and realised this is too late in the day to make the change for an event such as the UKOPS main. Therefore the guarantee will revert back to 40k and the seat awarded as a complete bonus to the winner. I can assure no "skullduggery" was intended here it was purely seen on my part as a bonus. I can see however from feedback here and sepereately from Tikay that this was a mistake.  So back to 40k and good luck tonight, it promises to be a good one. Sam
    Posted by Sky_SamT

    Probably shouldn't have put that as you guys seem genuinely honest, I retract the last sentence and my apologies if it caused offence. Top work for the quick response and how you have dealt with it. 

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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited November 2015
    Thanks Sam appreciate the help in resolving this.
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  • Sky_SamTSky_SamT Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 984
    edited November 2015
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.:
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today. : Probably shouldn't have put that as you guys seem genuinely honest, I retract the last sentence and my apologies if it caused offence. Top work for the quick response and how you have dealt with it. 
    Posted by omm
    No offence taken, this was a discussion Tikay and I had on Friday. I thought it was a fantastic idea and he wasn't so sure. Looks like he was right on this one. Happy to admit he is right occasionally. 
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited November 2015
    In Response to Re: oioi, a £1,100 Sky Poker UKPC seat is on offer today.:
    Hi All, I have taken all the comments onboard and realised this is too late in the day to make the change for an event such as the UKOPS main. Therefore the guarantee will revert back to 40k and the seat awarded as a complete bonus to the winner. I can assure no "skullduggery" was intended here it was purely seen on my part as a bonus. I can see however from feedback here and sepereately from Tikay that this was a mistake.  So back to 40k and good luck tonight, it promises to be a good one. Sam
    Posted by Sky_SamT
    Good work for listening and changing it Sam. 
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  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited November 2015

    well done, sam, correcting this and correcting it promptly


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  • MilitantGMilitantG Member Posts: 204
    edited November 2015
    Much kudos to Sky and Tikay for sorting this out, a lot of class shown.
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