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HUFA II - Thoughts?

Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
edited May 2016 in Poker Chat
If you don't know what HUFA I was see here...

https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a57795ac2-1793-4377-b4cf-e124b0f555f4Forum%3adf77f82c-151f-4bea-aae1-fb423dcae1faDiscussion%3aaefb758d-5b87-42f3-9bb0-f601d181065a&plckCurrentPage=0

It will be a few weeks before I launch HUFA II but just confirming I intend to do just that.

Churchy can bask in the glory of reigning champion for a while yet.

This IS NOT a registration thread.

Just wondering if anyone has observations/suggestions for improvement.

E.g.

Restricting no of entrants say to 64
Shorter time allowed per round
Longer lasting matches
Shorter matches
Is "home advantage" worth keeping or just make them all turbo / speed?

Any other suggestions welcome.

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  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited March 2016
    Sounds good
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,189
    edited March 2016
    Thought you did a great job with the last one Phantom!

    I liked the home advantage twist.

    A little less time between fixtures would make it even better imo.

    Mind you I can be an impatient so and so sometimes, so it might just be me. :=)

    Cheers,

    Graham
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  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,215
    edited March 2016
    I think hufa 1 worked just fine.

    There was no pressure on fixtures to be played and deadlines were relaxed.

    Just my view obv, its not broke so it doesnt need fixing.


    Oh, and its a winter sport, to have a 2nd fa cup coming into the summer would seem, err, tacky. We are British.
    Theres only one HuFa, Bovril and hot meat and tata pies.
    There should be 1 HUfa cup a year. The rest of th world is watching. 


    Maybe have a summer cup of some kind i suppose . But a lesser event than the famous Hufa.

    Youll have to buy another RNG for another event and a new carpet , you do realise this.



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  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited March 2016
    how about a  league system before knockout? say home and away  
    1 week for fixtures to be played should be enough for all to play there games imo
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,566
    edited March 2016

    I thought the last one was as near perfect as its possible to get, & of you plan to do it again, I'd suggest you rinse repeat, it was superb.

    We can arrange some prizes, similar to last time, too, if you are agreeable.        
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  • shakinacesshakinaces Member Posts: 1,590
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: HUFA II - Thoughts?:
    I think hufa 1 worked just fine. There was no pressure on fixtures to be played and deadlines were relaxed. Just my view obv, its not broke so it doesnt need fixing. Oh, and its a winter sport, to have a 2nd fa cup coming into the summer would seem, err, tacky. We are British. Theres only one HuFa, Bovril and hot meat and tata pies. There should be 1 HUfa cup a year. The rest of th world is watching.  Maybe have a summer cup of some kind i suppose . But a lesser event than the famous Hufa. Youll have to buy another RNG for another event and a new carpet , you do realise this.
    Posted by mumsie
    What about shifting things to a World Cup/European Championships, group stages into KO games... means you only need to do one draw as all entrants would have a clear path to the final?
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  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited March 2016
    The original was great.

    Personally, I would start with Best of 5 & increase from there.

    Maybe consider a league as well.

    Also, people start taking holidays more from April so shortening time for games might be an issue across the summer.
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  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited March 2016

    Couldn't play the last one, as i was going on my hols, so good point by Tiger lad.  Will endeavour to participate in this one.
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  • gerardirlgerardirl Member Posts: 1,299
    edited March 2016
    How about a European Championships instead, since its the summer approaching.Initially put people into qualifying groups (everyone plays each other once) and top so many qualify from each group for the Euro finals (depending how many you want that to be 32 or 24) then like the Euros have groups and then last 16 knockout.
    Just an idea has its pros and cons but thought I'dthrow it out there!

    I loved your format the last time but like stayorgo probably reduce the timeframe for fixtures to be played.

    Goodluck either way.

    Ger
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  • gerardirlgerardirl Member Posts: 1,299
    edited March 2016
    Sorry I just read the previous posts and looks like other have suggested this too! 
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  • Any2SuitedAny2Suited Member Posts: 1,240
    edited March 2016
    I didn't play the last one because of laptop issues but did watch with interest and thought the original format was pretty much spot on... But if i had been the winner (Churchy18?), i would like my bragging rights to last longer! 
     
    So, if as has been suggested; You were to title/name this next comp as a different entity from the last, then the winner of each different comp would have a few months bragging rights until defending there crown. Maybe also have like Wimbledon, the previous winner/defending champion plays the 1st match at home(centre court!) and then see if any early round upsets occur.

    Great comp, well done.

    Dave.
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  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited March 2016

    hi phanto,

    what you do with this competition is excellent.  little can improve things. 

    one idea is to reduce the duration of each round as the tournament progresses.  even consider a semi-finals and finals weekend.

    good work.





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  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited March 2016
    Thanks all - some good ideas so far.

    I kind of like the thought of keeping the HUFA a once a year thing with its own special characteristics and a straight knockout anyone can play anyone.

    I won't start registration until September for HUFA II and Churchy wiill forever be THE 2015/16 Champion.

    But we dont want to wait until then for more Heads Up action do we?

    A Euro championship themed event with mini league and knock out sounds a great idea.

    Will be limited in numbers, I wont wait until June like the Euros as more people likely to be away and may not want to actually play while the footie is on. So will look at running it April/May.

    Take the point on best of 5 from round 1 - it makes sure there is more play - but will it put the pure recs off? Or even some regs if it's seen as taking too much time away from their normal grind? Maybe the competitive streak in the regs prefer more games to maximise their "edge"?

    For the Euros could play 4 games in 1st round so draws are possible, 5 in knockouts and more for SF and Final?

    Plenty of time for more suggestions for either event.
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  • churchy18churchy18 Member Posts: 1,850
    edited March 2016
    think the way the comp was run was brilliant not because i won but it ran smoothly and was well organised think if you try a league format it will be more hassle arranging fixtures and so on than just a straight heads up game with only 2 people having to agree a time and date to play whereas what if say player a plays 2 games out of 3 winning 1 then disappears with the 1 game to go not really fair awarding the last player a walkover when that could put someone who played his 3 games out.

    Do like the idea of a league format but do feel it may become problematic and adding games may impact on entries and of course will give the more accomplished h/up players more of an edge than they already have which may also put some off

    But either way im looking forward to it and know  you will do the same excellent work you did in the 1st competition and make it be a success again.

    all the best churchy18 the sky poker h/u F.A.cup 2015/16 champion
    Do agree with this post as well from Any2Suited
    I didn't play the last one because of laptop issues but did watch with interest and thought the original format was pretty much spot on... But if i had been the winner (Churchy18?), i would like my bragging rights to last longer!

    Just 1 thing why the ? mark after my name? :@P if you fancy a best of 5 games just leave a reply and we can have a go but believe me im rotten but what does that say about my opponents :@}
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  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,215
    edited March 2016
    LOL, great reply Churchy +1 ?
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  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited March 2016
    a league system with winner and runner up progressing, 4 players per league playing home and away, with home player having advantage of game selection.

    1 week to play the fixture 

    players not completing games in 2 weeks are booted with points won removed.

    winners to be drawn against runners up and 2 knockouts drawn at same time ie winner of game a plays winner game b to give players option to get it done quicker if not available following week.

    no tennis to be mentioned ever.

    ps ill need 2 aways in my league :)
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,482
    edited March 2016
    Mixed formats for each round?

    EG
    Round 1 - Holdem
    Round 2 - Omaha
    Round 3 - PLO8
    etc.

    OR

    Home player gets the choice of format?
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  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,215
    edited March 2016
    ^^^^^
    Hmph
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  • Any2SuitedAny2Suited Member Posts: 1,240
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: HUFA II - Thoughts?:
    think the way the comp was run was brilliant not because i won but it ran smoothly and was well organised think if you try a league format it will be more hassle arranging fixtures and so on than just a straight heads up game with only 2 people having to agree a time and date to play whereas what if say player a plays 2 games out of 3 winning 1 then disappears with the 1 game to go not really fair awarding the last player a walkover when that could put someone who played his 3 games out. Do like the idea of a league format but do feel it may become problematic and adding games may impact on entries and of course will give the more accomplished h/up players more of an edge than they already have which may also put some off But either way im looking forward to it and know  you will do the same excellent work you did in the 1st competition and make it be a success again. all the best churchy18 the sky poker h/u F.A.cup 2015/16 champion Do agree with this post as well from Any2Suited I didn't play the last one because of laptop issues but did watch with interest and thought the original format was pretty much spot on... But if i had been the winner (Churchy18?) , i would like my bragging rights to last longer! Just 1 thing why the ? mark after my name? :@P if you fancy a best of 5 games just leave a reply and we can have a go but believe me im rotten but what does that say about my opponents :@}
    Posted by churchy18

    The ? mark after your name was because i couldn't remember whether you were Churchy118 or Churchy18 and as i'm typing this from my phone didn't want to lose the long post.

    Cheers for the offer of a game, but at the moment i've only got the phone to play from and i find that far to taxing with my dexterity levels to play poker on.
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  • churchy18churchy18 Member Posts: 1,850
    edited March 2016
    In Response to Re: HUFA II - Thoughts?:
    In Response to Re: HUFA II - Thoughts? : The ? mark after your name was because i couldn't remember whether you were Churchy118 or Churchy18 and as i'm typing this from my phone didn't want to lose the long post. Cheers for the offer of a game, but at the moment i've only got the phone to play from and i find that far to taxing with my dexterity levels to play poker on.
    Posted by Any2Suited
    Either way i got your number :@} cheers mumsie 
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