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£5 DYM - OP Facing Big Over-Jam
Lambert180
Member Posts: 12,197
What it says on the tin really ^
£5 DYM, still very early stages, I've played a few hundred DYMs at this stake over the last month or so and not seen this guy once so almost certainly not a reg. Too early for me to have any info on him really as we've all just folded lots mostly.
Pretty standard open and c-bet, and then he just bombs.
We block a lot of the OESD, and some of the bigger FDs. There is of course they other factor that we've already doubled early and so I expect to cash a vvv high % of the time now. If I call and win I'd expect to cash near 100% of the time, but if we call and lose it's game on again and we're back to cashing about as often as we would from the very start of a new game.
WWYD and more importantly what kinda range are you giving him?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EVADNEY | Small blind | 15.00 | 15.00 | 1705.00 | |
| elal25 | Big blind | 30.00 | 45.00 | 1945.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| Dunplannin | Fold | ||||
| Lambert180 | Raise | 90.00 | 135.00 | 3995.00 | |
| dave457 | Fold | ||||
| EVADNEY | Fold | ||||
| elal25 | Call | 60.00 | 195.00 | 1885.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| elal25 | Check | ||||
| Lambert180 | Bet | 100.00 | 295.00 | 3895.00 | |
| elal25 | All-in | 1885.00 | 2180.00 | 0.00 | |
| Lambert180 | |||||
Comments
I'm folding, why get involved?
He CAN have the 9, he CAN have JJ (albeit played badly or oddly), but we don't need to take the risk, do we?
We are 5 handed with almost 4,000 chips, with 3 paid.
Fold & move on, it's not an MTT.
I don't wanna be pedantic but ranges are all that matter, if we could say categorically that we have 80% equity v his range then I think we should call, I'm not saying we do (or even close) but whether we call or not has to be about his range.
I'm not really in a position to be dogmatic here, nor do I claim any great expertise at any form of poker on this site with the possible exception of DYM's, but I could not disagree more with this statement;
"I don't wanna be pedantic but ranges are all that matter, if we could say categorically that we have 80% equity v his range then I think we should call"
In my opinion, no, no, & then no again. We should not even call with 90% equity v his range. (Note we are GUESSING his range).
It does not matter if his range is quads, or a complete & utter airball. We should fold.
We have no interest whatsoever in his range IN THIS SPOT. We don't care what he has. We should fold.
I can't think of a single credible reason why anyone would get involved here. We should fold.
You are a competent player. You have 4,000 chips 5 handed, & as we later discover, one of our oppos is a maniac.
It's a DYM, not an MTT. We don't need all the chips, we can happily finish 3rd.
What price a competent player with 4,000 chips 5 handed to cash in a small ball DYM? 1/5, 1/6?
It's EGO that makes us want to get involved here.
One of the guys I love to bits in the O8 DYM's cannot grasp this. He regularly gets 4,000, 5,000 even 6,000 chips early doors & fails to cash.
"But they are taking advantage of me & my blinds tikay".
So what? LET THEM.
We get a tick if we cash. The same tick whether we have 8,000 chips or 1 chip. The clever ones sit quietly at the back & let Team Gung Ho cut each other's throats.
I may well be talking out of my rear end here, but this is not about ranges, hands, "what might he have?", not at all. It's about solid DYM strategy.
We are as near locked as we can be. It'd be criminal to put our entire stack at risk.
We are folding.
ALL IMO, of course.
It is a great example of how this Poker clinic can help players though.
It's not always about cards & ranges, in DYM's strategy is just as important, maybe more important.
If my NLH coach says it's a call, it's a call.
With 2,000 chips? Different case entirely. It would depend on a lot of things.
I'd not call here in a month of Sundays.
Not enough upside, too much downside. It's that simple.
PS - It's a DYM, not an MTT. All three winners get paid exactly the same.