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FLOS LAS (TRIAL RUN) JACKPOT. WE WOULD HAVE WON IT, BUT LOW DIVIDEND.STILL A PROFIT

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  • bearacebearace Member Posts: 133
    edited April 2017
    Following with interest. If this was for real I think I might be getting a bit excited by now! Part of me thinks it would be best we did not win this trial  - lets save or luck for the real thing!
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Well the favourite "Rocky's Treasure" wins the 5th leg, which has pretty much guaranteed a low dividend.

    So, even if we do win in the 6th leg, we'd struggle to cover the cost of the perm. There were just too many fancied horses that came in.

    Still, at least we haven't peaked too soon. :=)

    It will be interesting to see if we would of won, and how much of our stake we'd get back.

    But no need to worry about it being a missed opportunity anyway, we wouldn't have won big here.

    Cheers,

    G


  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Our 6th leg selections in perm two are:
    5:00 01 - ROCKNROLLRAMBO 15/8
    2/1 2/1
    5:00 04 - SHUIL TEACHT ANIAR 6/1
    11/2 11/2
    5:00 06 - THE LAST BRIDGE 5/1
    4/1 4/1
    5:00 08 - TRY IT SOMETIME 12/1
    9/1 9/1
    5:00 09 - BENNYS GIRL 15/2
    13/2 13/2
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    112.36 UNITS left into leg 6:

    Provided/If one of our 5 come in, the best result for us (in order) would be:

    Try it Sometime (10 units)
    Benny's Girl (13.5 units)
    Shuil Teacht Aniar (16.5 units)
    The Last Bridge (19.5 units)
    Rocknrollrambo (34.36 units + 2.5 fav units)
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Our total "would be" stake for the two perms would have been £915.00:

    So the dividend would need to be  /> £2K to make a potential profit (assuming we get it)

    We have favourable equity at this stage, but not by much.
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Favourite wins again, was a shame, as dividend will be low, but probably over the £2K mark, so we wouldn't have lost anything. We just needed a couple of those close finishes where the favourite won to have been the other way around, and it could have been a nice dividend.

    Anyhow, we can notch it up as a "partial success" as we did get the Jackpot up.

    Cheers,

    G
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Thanks to all for the support with this, and particularly to Roger for his help with the spreadsheets.
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    Dividend £2,173.30.
     
    So we'd collect £1,086.65 for a slight profit.

    Had the two photo finishes gone the other way, we probably would have been looking at an £8-10K cash.

    All hypothetical anyway, but a good trial non the less, and will have hopefully given some of you an idea of the processes involved.

    Cheers,

    G
  • zadoczadoc Member Posts: 3,402
    edited April 2017


      Good work Graham, you have put in a lot of effort & have proved it can work.

      Well done.

      i will keep a watch on web site to get a feel for when they advertise following days meeting

      Roger
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: FLOS LAS (TRIAL RUN) JACKPOT. WE WOULD HAVE WON IT, BUT LOW DIVIDEND. BUT STILL A PROFIT:
      Good work Graham, you have put in a lot of effort & have proved it can work.   Well done.   i will keep a watch on Totesport web site to get a feel for when they advertise following days meeting   Roger
    Posted by zadoc
    Cheers Roger, and thanks so much for doing the initial spreadsheets.

    Did my comments re using the Racing Post prices summarised at the bottom of the race card, rather than the "bookmaker" prices on the same line of the horses name, make sense?

    It really was a big help, that you put it together for me. From my experience the Jackpot meeting is available online usually between 9pm and 10pm.

    Ideally I would like the spreadsheets by 11pm, so that I can start work on the market movers.

    I'm going to chill for a few days, and I will be busy the last two weeks of April, so I will probably do just one more trial run if/when there is a big roll over.

    All the best,

    Graham
  • zadoczadoc Member Posts: 3,402
    edited April 2017


      ok that's fine, if you want to give me the nod when you're ready i will put the spreadsheet togather.

      Hope you run good with the Poker.

      Regards

      Roger
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: FLOS LAS (TRIAL RUN) JACKPOT. WE WOULD HAVE WON IT, BUT LOW DIVIDEND. BUT STILL A PROFIT:
      ok that's fine, if you want to give me the nod when you're ready i will put the spreadsheet togather.   Hope you run good with the Poker.   Regards   Roger
    Posted by zadoc


    That's great, TY!
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited April 2017
    As the first live bet will likely be on the flat, someone may need to become very familiar with the draw bias on different tracks and variable going conditions.May save time on the day.
  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: FLOS LAS (TRIAL RUN) JACKPOT. WE WOULD HAVE WON IT, BUT LOW DIVIDEND. BUT STILL A PROFIT:
    As the first live bet will likely be on the flat, someone may need to become very familiar with the draw bias on different tracks and variable going conditions.May save time on the day.
    Posted by chilling


    Yes Chill, I'm already aware of this, but glad you are pointing these things out.

    I regularly use the website below for this:


    Although, one does also have to be aware of starting stall position too (they are variable on some tracks)

    Of course in bets like the Placepot and Jackpot, understanding and "getting right" draw bias, can be a wonderful edge to have, so you are spot on in pointing it out.

    Some draw biases are so well know, Chester and Beverly for example, that there is not much of an edge to be had. But the really useful ones are where the draw bias differs based on ground conditions, this link points us in that direction.

    Cheers,

    Graham


  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited April 2017
    Well done Graham and partner for all your hard work. Looking good 
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