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Jackpot syndicate NAPs table for July

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  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited July 2017
    3.35: CORINTHIA KNIGHT
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  • SnufferSnuffer Member Posts: 3,057
    edited July 2017
    2.25: WHAT ABOUT CARLO
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  • zadoczadoc Member Posts: 3,402
    edited July 2017

    4.45:  LINCOLN ROCKS
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited July 2017
    It is Newbury and non runners so far are

    1.50 Early Morning

    2.25 SPARK PLUG  & Toulson

    3.00 Glass Office and Windfast

    3.35 Snazzy Jazzy

    4.10 Usher

    4.45 sante
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited July 2017
    3.00: VISIONARY
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  • mkgunnermkgunner Member Posts: 3,032
    edited July 2017
    2.25: WHAT ABOUT CARLO
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  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,556
    edited July 2017
    3.35 Maggie's Angel
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited July 2017
    I have removed my initial post as SPARK PLUG is a Non Runner, my new choice is:

    3.35: MAGGIES ANGEL


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  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited July 2017
    1.50: STRAIGHT RIGHT
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited July 2017
    WELL DONE SNUFFER AND MK GUNNER
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  • SnufferSnuffer Member Posts: 3,057
    edited July 2017
    In Response to Re: Jackpot syndicate NAPs table for July:
    WELL DONE SNUFFER AND MK GUNNER
    Posted by vaigret
    Cheers V, backed it at 13/2 this morning but rule 4 took a whopping 55p in a pound so 5/2 a fair price I guess.

    EDIT: paid me out nearer 9/2 so can't complain.
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,620
    edited July 2017



    3.35: TIME TRAIL
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  • jordz16jordz16 Member Posts: 2,253
    edited July 2017
    3.35: DECLARATIONOFLOVE
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited July 2017
    In Response to Re: Jackpot syndicate NAPs table for July:
    In Response to Re: Jackpot syndicate NAPs table for July : Cheers V, backed it at 13/2 this morning but rule 4 took a whopping 55p in a pound so 5/2 a fair price I guess. EDIT: paid me out nearer 9/2 so can't complain.
    Posted by Snuffer

    perhaps G can help with this, I also backed it at 15-2 and got paid out at about 5.25 to one cant understand how I got better pay out than you. 
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  • SnufferSnuffer Member Posts: 3,057
    edited July 2017
    Might be wrong with my calculations, I had it at £5 e/w and it returned £38.45 after the rule 4. (1/4 odds on e/w). Also well done you as well!
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  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited July 2017
    In Response to Re: Jackpot syndicate NAPs table for July:
    Might be wrong with my calculations, I had it at £5 e/w and it returned £38.45 after the rule 4. (1/4 odds on e/w).
    Posted by Snuffer

    ok
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  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,320
    edited July 2017

    3.35:  CORINTHIA KNIGHT
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  • zadoczadoc Member Posts: 3,402
    edited July 2017

    LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER ROLLOVER
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,620
    edited July 2017
    SYNDICATE NAP SELECTIONS AND RESULTS FOR SUNDAY  23RD JULY 2017 
    AT REDCAR: 


    1) JORDZ16:

    3.30: PRINCE OF CLAPPERS - LOST 

    2) MAXALLY:

    3.00: THE DUKKERER - LOST

    3) MICKYBLUE:



    4) MISTY4ME:



    5) MKGUNNER:

    4.00: MYSTERIAL - LOST
    6) PHANTOM66:

    2.30: LETHAL LADY - LOST

    7) RABDENIRO:

    4.30:  MUSCIKA - 2ND

    8) SNUFFER:

    4.00: ATTAIN - LOST

    9) STAYORGO:

    3.30: ROYS DREAM - LOST

    10) VAIGRET:

    3.00: SOOQAAN - LOST

    11) WYNNE1938:

    2.30: MOLLY MAYHEM - LOST

    12) ZADOC:

    3.00:  MR SUNDOWNER - WON (5/1)

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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo Member Posts: 12,181
    edited July 2017
    In Response to Re: Jackpot syndicate NAPs table for July:
    Might be wrong with my calculations, I had it at £5 e/w and it returned £38.45 after the rule 4. (1/4 odds on e/w). Also well done you as well!
    Posted by Snuffer

    Hi Snuffer/Vaigret.

    Rule 4 often causes confusion as unlike in a dead heat, the rule 4 is only applied to winnings not stake.

    Also when there are multiple non runners, depending on when your bet is placed, only some of the rule 4 may be applicable. It looks as if Snuffer's bet was after some withdrawals but before others, as despite saying the rule 4 was 55p in the pound the bet has been settled with a rule 4 of just 30p in the pound.

    The calculation is made as follows:

    WIN PART = STAKE * ((1 + ODDS) - (ODDS * R4))

    PLACE PART =  STAKE * ((1 + (ODDS/4)) - (ODDS/4 * R4))

    FOR SNUFFER £5 E/W AT 13/2 AND 1/4 ODDS WITH 30P RULE 4 DEDUCTION THIS IS CALCULATED AS FOLLOWS:

    WIN PART = £5 * ((1 + 6.5) - (6.5 * 0.3)) = £5 * (7.5 - 1.95) = £27.75

    PLACE PART: £5 * ((1 + (6.5/4)) - (6.5 / 4 * 0.3)) =  £5 * (2.625 - 0.4875) = £10.6875

    TOTAL RETURN = £27.75 + £10.6875 = £38.4375 rounded up to £38.44 (So definitely settled as 30p rule 4 despite what it may say)

    I had to do all these manually to pass my bookmaking exams (one needs to be careful with the brackets), but obviously nowadays you'd just use an online odds calculator.

    Anyhow, I have no doubt that Snuffer's bet was settled at 30p in the pound based on the time of bet placement being before some withdrawals but after others.

    Cheers,

    G
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