In Response to Re: Slow play, Slow-playing and Slow-rolling. : Maybe but playing 30min or so levels take a few seconds dosen't really come into it. The 5 seconds are used for many reasons and help to reason how to play certain players, cards, draws etc etc Posted by j3ono
The level time is not the most important factor here.
On average, a hand of live poker in a full ring game lasts 2 minutes (as opposed to online, which is about 40 seconds). That is 9 people pre-flop, and varying amounts of people playing up to 3 streets thereafter.
Your gazing at other people before looking at your cards, then pausing, then examining them, then thinking, then pausing again is going to take nearly 30 seconds. Just pre-flop. Every single hand. Other tables will be playing on average 15 hands per level. your table will be playing 12, purely on your pre-flop pauses. If everyone did the same, it would be nearer 5-6 hands per level. That is why live poker would cease to exist-it would be very dull.
You have asked for honest opinions. That is mine. You are slowing your table significantly.
Nice thread Donald. When I play live I try and play every hand pre flop the same: Dealer would deal I would place cards under my protector sideways. I would then watch the action. When I'm to act I would count to 5, straighten up my cards and look at them, then count to 3 and make my decision. I've been told this is slow playing, I look at it as a rountine and hopefully it gives very little infomation away. Several times faster players to my left act out of turn, which of course gives me free information. I have noticed players can get very frustrated at my lack of speed. Thoughts? Posted by j3ono
Why would you wait until everyone's eyes are on you to look at your cards? I get the 3 seconds after looking, but the 5 seconds before looking is just slow play for the sake of it.
In Response to Re: Slow play, Slow-playing and Slow-rolling. : The 5 seconds are used for many reasons and help to reason how to play certain players, cards, draws etc etc Posted by j3ono
How can it be used to think about playing certain cards and draws when you haven't even looked at your hand yet?
yes i can explain that ITsover4u, sky poker tv years ago in a advert chubby faced fella ryan i think his name or scotty , he says its impossible to sit out in any sky poker game and cash , yet there was a discussion recently saying someone did just that hope that clarifies that for you Posted by rhino11
I think someone might have cashed in a freeroll recently whilst being 'away'. This isn't exactly news and can and does happen in FRs, albeit not very often at all.
No idea why you're fixated on something Scotty77 might or might not have said a few years ago? Generally speaking it won't happen, but it might slip through the next in specific FRs when the ratio of cash to players is quite high.
In Response to Re: Slow play, Slow-playing and Slow-rolling. : The level time is not the most important factor here. On average, a hand of live poker in a full ring game lasts 2 minutes (as opposed to online, which is about 40 seconds). That is 9 people pre-flop, and varying amounts of people playing up to 3 streets thereafter. Your gazing at other people before looking at your cards, then pausing, then examining them, then thinking, then pausing again is going to take nearly 30 seconds. Just pre-flop. Every single hand. Other tables will be playing on average 15 hands per level. your table will be playing 12, purely on your pre-flop pauses. If everyone did the same, it would be nearer 5-6 hands per level. That is why live poker would cease to exist-it would be very dull. You have asked for honest opinions. That is mine. You are slowing your table significantly. Posted by Essexphil
In Response to Re: Slow play, Slow-playing and Slow-rolling. : Why would you wait until everyone's eyes are on you to look at your cards? I get the 3 seconds after looking, but the 5 seconds before looking is just slow play for the sake of it. Posted by FCHD
In Response to Re: Slow play, Slow-playing and Slow-rolling. : How can it be used to think about playing certain cards and draws when you haven't even looked at your hand yet? Posted by FCHD
tbf I probably don't word this correctly.
I'm always processing previous hands played by XYZ so thinking about what they could have, not my hand.
I shared a table which had one point bit of slow play that was starting to annoy the opponent it happened on the turn the board itself was 109x Qsss, what happens is the villian do an AI leaving the hero with a decision to either call or fold, he held Q10 at the time. He was consistantly stating he has a good hand the trouble is the villian had over bet AI on the turn leaving him with the difficult decision of whether or not to call.his decision was taking forever and made the rest of the table annoyed especially the villian. The dealer was gonna call the general manager over to put him on a timer, he snap folded as soon as that was mentioned.
I only know what hand he had because he said afterwards, the villian himself held the flush.
when playing live you should look at your cards as soon as they are dealt to you imo,the reason for this is,everyone looks at the player whos turn it is,to see if they can spot a reaction as he/she looks at their cards,by looking at your own cards straight away,no one is watching you doing it,plus when its your time to act and the whole table looks towards you,theres nothing to see as you have already looked at your cards while their attention was elsewhere.
Oooooo madmonkey, if you see a hand you intend to fold , you may assume the posture of a foldee , if you have a hand your excited about,, you might ( 4 elephant) eye your chips.
Oooooo madmonkey, if you see a hand you intend to fold , you may assume the posture of a foldee , if you have a hand your excited about,, you might ( 4 elephant) eye your chips. Posted by mumsie
yes i can explain that ITsover4u, sky poker tv years ago in a advert chubby faced fella ryan i think his name or scotty , he says its impossible to sit out in any sky poker game and cash , yet there was a discussion recently saying someone did just that hope that clarifies that for you Posted by rhino11
I think Ryan should have this quote framed to look at for inspiration if he's ever losing self confidence
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On average, a hand of live poker in a full ring game lasts 2 minutes (as opposed to online, which is about 40 seconds). That is 9 people pre-flop, and varying amounts of people playing up to 3 streets thereafter.
Your gazing at other people before looking at your cards, then pausing, then examining them, then thinking, then pausing again is going to take nearly 30 seconds. Just pre-flop. Every single hand. Other tables will be playing on average 15 hands per level. your table will be playing 12, purely on your pre-flop pauses. If everyone did the same, it would be nearer 5-6 hands per level. That is why live poker would cease to exist-it would be very dull.
You have asked for honest opinions. That is mine. You are slowing your table significantly.
Why would you wait until everyone's eyes are on you to look at your cards? I get the 3 seconds after looking, but the 5 seconds before looking is just slow play for the sake of it.
How can it be used to think about playing certain cards and draws when you haven't even looked at your hand yet?
2 Elephants.