Just to add another question for peeps - how often do you rate that you 'played well/A game' when you have come off a session running extremely badly...?
Is it possible to rate your game as good, after showing a large loss?? I find that difficult must admit - as well as difficult to avoid throwing the computer out the window etc etc.....
Just to add another question for peeps - how often do you rate that you 'played well/A game' when you have come off a session running extremely badly...? Is it possible to rate your game as good, after showing a large loss?? I find that difficult must admit - as well as difficult to avoid throwing the computer out the window etc etc..... Posted by swanstu
It's quite easy
I played well in the dyms I played yesterday. I lost 4 out of 5
I played an mtt as well and was owned by Wacko every other hand. Didn't play well in that at all. I ran super well though and came 3rd for around £100
Just to add another question for peeps - how often do you rate that you 'played well/A game' when you have come off a session running extremely badly...? Is it possible to rate your game as good, after showing a large loss?? I find that difficult must admit - as well as difficult to avoid throwing the computer out the window etc etc..... Posted by swanstu
You need to seperate results and how well you played. Long term if you play well then results will come but short term you can play badly and win or play well and lose. Also if its MTTs sometimes you may play really well in one game but bad in others. It isnt an easy thing to do but you just need to try and be honest with yourself.
Thanks for the replies Matt/Jac - I can see the point, though still find it hard to rate my play when I've been hammered results wise.
I think the point is that I feel unsure whether I actually played well or not after a big losing session, even when I know I often got the chips in ahead of the opponents. Guess that is kind of 'playing well', but it feels foreshortened by getting knocked out early etc.
In Response to Re: poker the good the bad and the average : You need to seperate results and how well you played. Long term if you play well then results will come but short term you can play badly and win or play well and lose. Also if its MTTs sometimes you may play really well in one game but bad in others. It isnt an easy thing to do but you just need to try and be honest with yourself. Posted by MattBates
The problem I have even with ignoring results is evaluating if I played well or not. Any tips?
In Response to Re: poker the good the bad and the average : The problem I have even with ignoring results is evaluating if I played well or not. Any tips? Posted by jdsallstar
I have played quite a lot over the years so with the experience I have gained it really helps to analyse your game. Looking at hands played with friends can help even if it just reinforces your view that you played it well.
I think part of the problem is for me its kind of a feel thing.
I guess if you think about what you do when you are playing well/badly and then look to see if you have done those things during a session.
Is lots of different factors to consider and some will be more key than others.
I have played quite a lot over the years so with the experience I have gained it really helps to analyse your game. Looking at hands played with friends can help even if it just reinforces your view that you played it well. I think part of the problem is for me its kind of a feel thing. I guess if you think about what you do when you are playing well/badly and then look to see if you have done those things during a session. Is lots of different factors to consider and some will be more key than others. Posted by MattBates
Cheers matt and I know what you mean but I suppose it's the great mystery and challenge of poker that makes it such a great and frustrating game at the same time.
I too often have a feel if I've played well or not but of course that's just in my own eyes and if some of the better players experienced my good days play it would probably be a bad days play in their own eyes.
You can only be as good as your own ceiling i suppose I'm trying to say and without (as you say) others reviewing your play you can only be within your own range of good unless someone reviews your entire session.
Plus, as plays out many times in the clinic, you get many different views on how to play any particular hand so one man's good play is anothers not so good play. Once you get passed a semi decent standard those little incremental improvements are key but incredibly hard to measure and evaluate, especially in the short term.
Then at the end of it all for us mere mortals it's difficult not to equate return/loss with our standard of play.
Having the ability to be honest with yourself too - reckon that's prob a skill in itself.
There's several elements to that - knowing how you played is one, knowing your emotion is another, and prob more to add to those aspects when you look back at your play.
some great replies guys,i have just finnished reading the mental game of poker and the mental game of poker 2
not the easiest of reads but i think ive learned from them.
if anyone would like these two books let me know and i will post them on to you,then maybe when youve read them you can pass them on to another forum member,
some great replies guys,i have just finnished reading the mental game of poker and the mental game of poker 2 not the easiest of reads but i think ive learned from them. if anyone would like these two books let me know and i will post them on to you,then maybe when youve read them you can pass them on to another forum member, Posted by TheMadMonk
In Response to Re: poker the good the bad and the average : I would defo be interested in reading them after you bud...... and especially to see how they compare with 'The mental game of Golf' Posted by MISTY4ME
Waller will forward them on to you in 7 years when he's finally finished them.
In Response to Re: poker the good the bad and the average : I would defo be interested in reading them after you bud...... and especially to see how they compare with 'The mental game of Golf' Posted by MISTY4ME
No prob, I'll get in touch when I have read them and post them on to you
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