Mega deepstack poker is something that takes a certain mindset to play well. I love it at the Goliath or the GUKPT events watching players play a 25000 chip stack over 10 or 12 1 hour levels starting as low as 25 /50. The internet qualifiers all want to play it like a turbo and the local casino regs cant get past the 20 / 25 min level pace that theyre used to. consequently they become bored or distracted and that's when mistakes occur. Even at my local casinos many players start moaning about having to go to work in 4 hours etc (if you don't want to play then don't come guys) and all want to make a deal or even just chop it.
Personally I want a £25 buy in 10 /12 hour comp (instead of a low buy in "its only 2 quid" splash around for about 4 hours) that's worth winning but I guess Ill just have to keep playing (and cashing) live. Even Pokerstars has cut its deepstack clock to 15 min levels from the original 30.
I'm guessing the need for constant action / adrenaline will see the WSOP main event reduced to 20 min clock before long and EPT and WPT events as a sideshow turbo to the cash games.
"....I'm guessing the need for constant action / adrenaline will see the WSOP main event reduced to 20 min clock before long...."
I think the next major change in the WSOP Main will be to introduce re-entries. A terrible move, I'd say, but I'd bet good money it will happen within the next 5 years, or I would if I thought I'd be around long enough to collect.
If, say, 15% of the uniques re-entered, that'd be close to an extra million dollars in "rake", all of which goes into the pockets of WSOP/Caesars. (The WSOP Main Entry Fee is included within the $10,000, but they withhold around 9% or thereabouts as rake).
Mega deepstack poker is something that takes a certain mindset to play well. I love it at the Goliath or the GUKPT events watching players play a 25000 chip stack over 10 or 12 1 hour levels starting as low as 25 /50. The internet qualifiers all want to play it like a turbo and the local casino regs cant get past the 20 / 25 min level pace that theyre used to. consequently they become bored or distracted and that's when mistakes occur. Even at my local casinos many players start moaning about having to go to work in 4 hours etc (if you don't want to play then don't come guys) and all want to make a deal or even just chop it.
Personally I want a £25 buy in 10 /12 hour comp (instead of a low buy in "its only 2 quid" splash around for about 4 hours) that's worth winning but I guess Ill just have to keep playing (and cashing) live. Even Pokerstars has cut its deepstack clock to 15 min levels from the original 30.
I'm guessing the need for constant action / adrenaline will see the WSOP main event reduced to 20 min clock before long and EPT and WPT events as a sideshow turbo to the cash games.
Yours in poker. Mark
Many of us do, too.
However, think of it from the standpoint of the operator at the Venue. They get the same income (reg fees) on a deepstack as they do on a super quick turbo, but the running costs (dealers, table utilisation etc), are much less for the Turbo.
If you owned, say, Grosvenor or Genting B & M cardrooms, what would you prefer to offer? It'd have to be the turbo, as they get their money faster & incur far lower costs.
The Online model is different, of course, but the logic is similar. The quicker an MTT ends, the sooner the player registers for another, or goes play cash or whatever.
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Personally I want a £25 buy in 10 /12 hour comp (instead of a low buy in "its only 2 quid" splash around for about 4 hours) that's worth winning but I guess Ill just have to keep playing (and cashing) live. Even Pokerstars has cut its deepstack clock to 15 min levels from the original 30.
I'm guessing the need for constant action / adrenaline will see the WSOP main event reduced to 20 min clock before long and EPT and WPT events as a sideshow turbo to the cash games.
Yours in poker.
Mark
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"....I'm guessing the need for constant action / adrenaline will see the WSOP main event reduced to 20 min clock before long...."
I think the next major change in the WSOP Main will be to introduce re-entries. A terrible move, I'd say, but I'd bet good money it will happen within the next 5 years, or I would if I thought I'd be around long enough to collect.
If, say, 15% of the uniques re-entered, that'd be close to an extra million dollars in "rake", all of which goes into the pockets of WSOP/Caesars. (The WSOP Main Entry Fee is included within the $10,000, but they withhold around 9% or thereabouts as rake).
However, think of it from the standpoint of the operator at the Venue. They get the same income (reg fees) on a deepstack as they do on a super quick turbo, but the running costs (dealers, table utilisation etc), are much less for the Turbo.
If you owned, say, Grosvenor or Genting B & M cardrooms, what would you prefer to offer? It'd have to be the turbo, as they get their money faster & incur far lower costs.
The Online model is different, of course, but the logic is similar. The quicker an MTT ends, the sooner the player registers for another, or goes play cash or whatever.