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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    Labour warned against ‘betraying’ members as party admits it may not back fresh Brexit referendum
    Exclusive: Party says it will only back Final Say vote on Theresa May’s deal and could support softer Brexit without public being given a say




    Labour has admitted it will not support a new referendum on Brexit in all circumstances, in a major blow to those in the party campaigning for one.
    Sources close to the Labour leadership confirmed that the party is not advocating a referendum on anything other than a “damaging Tory Brexit” and will not support one if Britain leaves the EU on terms that Labour backs.


    The Independent has learnt that the issue was the subject of a row between Mr Corbyn’s shadow ministers that pitted Keir Starmer and Emily Thornberry against Brexit-backing frontbenchers led by Jon Trickett.


    As it dawned on Labour Remainers today, a prominent MP who backs the People’s Vote campaign warned that a failure of the party to follow through on the pledge to back a new referendum would be seen as a “betrayal”.


    It comes as deputy leader Tom Watson is in the process of forming a new “social democrat” group within the party, while eight MPs have quit the party, in large part over Brexit policy, to form the new Independent Group.
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    Brexit talks deadlocked as pressure mounts on May to secure deal
    Labour said last week that it would support a vote on any “credible” exit plan passed by parliament, and shadow ministers took to the airwaves to promise to demand a “confirmatory referendum” on “whatever deal may or may not pass through parliament”.



    However, sources have now told The Independent that the party will only support a referendum on a “damaging Tory Brexit” deal. Crucially, it is understood that Labour does not consider this to include the type of arrangement being proposed by former Conservative ministers Sir Oliver Letwin and Nick Boles, who Mr Corbyn held talks with yesterday. Their plan would keep the UK in the single market and a customs union with the EU.




    The revelation will prompt speculation that Mr Corbyn’s priority remains building Commons support for a softer Brexit deal that and refusing to allow the public a Final Say vote.




    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-brexit-eu-referendum-members-deal-jeremy-corbyn-theresa-may-a8813041.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,400
    BRILLIANT!- @HAYSIE

    Thanks for taking the time to generate a funny start to the day! (oh, just realised it's talking about a serious, real issue...eeeeek)
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,522
    Never mind all this Brexit nonsense.
    Where can I go see Esther McVey World? :)
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    Arron Banks Told Leave.EU To 'Keep Pumping' Brexit Ads In Wake Of Jo Cox Murder, Probe Claims

    Millionaire Brexit backer Arron Banks ignored a ban on campaigning in the wake of Jo Cox’s murder, telling the Leave.EU team to “keep pumping” an ad on Facebook, an investigation has claimed.
    According to emails seen by Channel 4 News, Banks – who co-founded the pro-Brexit Leave.EU campaign – urged the social media team to take advantage of the lull in campaigning the day after the Labour MP’s killing.
    In an email to Leave.EU CEO Liz Bilney and other staff on June 17, 2016, Banks allegedly said they should “boost” an existing sponsored social media advert.



    Banks: “Keep pumping the McKenna video... and up the Spend A”.
    Bilney: “Yes that’s starting to get traction now and with paid advertising and no active campaigning could get a lot of take up today.”
    Banks: “Exactly - press it harder.”
    He added later: “Boost it more.. The ban is on new stuff and activity not the sponsored page..”
    Meanwhile, the probe claims to have revealed how a press officer paid by Leave.EU drafted a press release in the name of the campaign group Labour Leave attacking the media for politicising Cox’s murder.
    The release – dated June 17 – condemned reporters for making the death of the Batley and Spen MP into “political mileage for Remain”.
    The draft reportedly read: ”... blackmailing Brexiteers to tone down their campaign is a new low”.

    According to the investigation, one Leave.EU figure suggested altering the wording: “I think it also needs more about being a time for showing respect,” he writes… “and drawing unsubstantiated inferences about motive or causes at such a time is disrespectful to Jo Cox’s memory”.
    But Leave.EU’s Andy Wigmore then replied: “NO – don’t need to say this – her husband has already made it political… the tone is about right.”
    Labour Leave condemned the release, claiming it had been issued falsely in its name.
    Labour MP Alison McGovern told Channel 4 News that the thought of such a discussion going on “makes me feel sick”, calling the day Cox was killed “one of the worst days of my life”.
    “It’s horrific,” she said.
    Meanwhile, Labour’s Jo Stevens told reporters: “I haven’t got any words to describe how I feel about that. That Brendan would make political capital about his wife being murdered on the street, immediately after her death.
    “Why would anybody suggest that?

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/arron-banks-told-leaveeu-to-keep-pumping-brexit-ads-in-wake-of-jo-cox-murder-probe-claims/ar-BBUxGQU?ocid=spartanntp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    'A slap in the face': Barnier sets May on course for Brexit defeat



    “European leaders tell me they worry that time is running out and that we only have one chance to get it right. My message to them is: now is the moment for us to act.”
    But Barnier immediately appeared to rebuff the prime minister, by responding with an offer of reverting to his original plan, the Northern Ireland-only backstop, which May repeatedly said no prime minister could accept, because it risked creating a border in the Irish Sea.
    The EU’s chief negotiator said in a series of tweets that the EU was committed “to give the UK the option to exit the single customs territory unilaterally, while the other elements of the backstop must be maintained to avoid a hard border. [The] UK will not be forced into a customs union against its will.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/a-slap-in-the-face-barnier-sets-may-on-course-for-brexit-defeat/ar-BBUxO1h?ocid=spartandhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    The papers hold out little hope that Theresa May's Brexit deal can get through the Commons next week - after what the Spectator website describes as Friday's "non-concession" by the EU's chief negotiator, Michel Barnier.
    Britain and the EU have publicly locked horns, according to the Independent website. The Telegraph says a last-minute breakthrough appears doomed as Brussels refuses to budge on the Irish backstop: "Barnier leaves May facing Brexit humiliation", is the paper's front page headline.
    The Sun's commentator, James Forsyth, quotes a minister as saying: "We're at the 'what the **** do we do' time".
    Without a change to the backstop, he adds, Mrs May's deal is going down to another heavy defeat on Tuesday.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-47504503
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    BREXIT SHOCK: Two thirds of Northern Ireland voters REJECT DUP's stance on EU exit
    NORTHERN Ireland voters overwhelmingly reject Arlene Foster’s party’s handling of Brexit, a shock new poll shows



    In a stinging rebuke, 67 per cent of voters surveyed in the Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI poll believe the DUP is doing a bad job of representing Northern Ireland at Westminster. The figure was higher among Catholic nationalist voters, with 83 per cent blasting the DUP’s Brexit performance at Westminster. A majority of Protestants - 52 per cent - who traditionally support the DUP, also said they aren’t happy with how the DUP’s 10 MPs are representing Northern Ireland in the Brexit process.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1097610/brexit-news-dup-northern-ireland-ipsos-mrbi-new-poll-exit
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    REVEALED: Cabinet minister warns Kuenssberg UK may 'lose control' of Brexit next week
    A CABINET minister has told BBC’s Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg the Government may “lose control” of Brexit next week in the critical House of Commons votes.

    Theresa May urged MPs to back her Brexit agreement on Friday during a speech in Grimsby where she warned the UK “may never leave at all” if the withdrawal agreement is rejected. MPs will vote in the House of Commons in a meaningful vote on the Prime Minister’s agreement, and if rejected will vote on a no deal or the possible extension of Article 50. Speaking on BBC’s Brexitcast, Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg claimed a Cabinet minister told her about their fears of the Government “losing control” of Brexit next week in the critical votes.


    She said: “We are so far in the world of speculation here it’s bonkers.
    “I just wanted to say in the last couple of hours I have been with a Cabinet minister, and he said two really profound things I want Brexitcasters to hear.
    “‘What happens next? Whoever tells you is lying’.
    “The other thing they said was that ‘we really are at the critical moment now, I am very worried that we might lose control next week’. They might, and they might not.”
    BBC's Kuenssberg later added: “You have Parliament kind of notionally in charge of this, but I can’t say this thought, Parliament does not have a consensus for anything at the
    moment.”

    If that fails, MPs will be offered two separate votes - one on a no-deal Brexit, and the other on requesting an extension to the two-year Article 50 negotiation process to delay EU withdrawal beyond March 29.
    On Friday, the Prime Minister used her speech in Leave-supporting Grimsby to urge both the European Union to give ground on the Northern Ireland backstop and call on Tory Eurosceptics to recognise that failure to back the deal could result in a softer Brexit or another referendum.
    She said: “Next week, MPs in Westminster face a crucial choice: Whether to back the Brexit deal or to reject it,



    “Back it and the UK will leave the European Union. Reject it and no-one knows what will happen. We may not leave the EU for many months, we may leave without the protections that the deal provides. We may never leave at all."
    Rejection of the deal would be a "moment of crisis".
    On Friday afternoon, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator claimed he had offered Britain a choice where the UK will "not be forced into a customs union against its will”.
    The EU proposal gives the UK the chance to leave the full UK-wide customs union of the Irish backstop and return to the Northern Ireland-only arrangement, which Mrs May rejected has already.
    After a meeting with EU27 ambassadors, Mr Barnier tweeted: “I briefed EU27 Ambassadors and EP today on the ongoing talks with #UK. Following the EU-UK statement of 20 Feb, the EU has proposed to the UK a legally binding interpretation of the #Brexit Withdrawal Agreement.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1097650/Brexit-news-UK-EU-BBC-Theresa-May-Laura-Kuenssberg-European-Union
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    Tory chairman accused of repeatedly ignoring Islamophobia complaints
    Brandon Lewis didn't respond to complaints according to reports



    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-chairman-accused-repeatedly-ignoring-14102766
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    Phantom66 said:
    Will Self launched the row when he said: “Your problem really, Mark, is not that you have to be a racist or an anti-Semite to vote for Brexit, it’s just that every racist and anti-Semite in the country did."

    Mr Francois replied: “I think that’s a snide and outrageous thing to say.”
    “Ah well you seem to find a lot of things outrageous, don’t you,” replied Self.

    “Are you saying that 17.4 million people are… are racists and bigots because they voted to leave the European Union?” asked Francois.

    “No, that’s not what I said,” came the reply.
    The exchange ended with the pair locked in an awkward and icy stare down.


    I am not a fan of either of them, and particularly dislike Mark Francois.

    He came in for a lot of criticism recently with his we won the war pitch, in response to the Airbus boss warnings on Brexit.

    Will Self was clearly saying that not all the people that voted to leave were racists and bigots, but all those that are probably did.

    Seems pretty logical to me.

    Mark Francois seemed a little slow on the uptake.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V7FF7ldDVs

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    Labour amendment supporting second referendum put on hold
    MPs who support a people’s vote asked to hold fire until fate of May’s Brexit deal is known



    An amendment proposing a second referendum from two backbench Labour MPs will not now be put to a vote when Theresa May brings her Brexit deal back to parliament next week.
    Labour’s leadership wants attention on Tuesday to focus on May’s deal – but the party has not ruled out a second referendum motion later in the week if the prime minister fails to win MPs’ backing.
    Campaigners for a second referendum believe they can only a win a majority in the Commons if it is seen as the sole option to break the deadlock preventing any Brexit deal passing through parliament.
    Writing in the Guardian, former Labour communications chief Alastair Campbell, who is involved with the People’s Vote campaign, said that Tuesday “must belong to Mrs May being made to see her deal will not – and cannot – fly” and called on the backbenchers to hold fire.



    Labour MPs Peter Kyle and Phil Wilson had been pushing an amendment that would allow May’s Brexit deal to pass through the Commons on condition that its approval was subject to a second referendum.
    They believed their offer could be attractive to some Conservatives because it would at least allow the Brexit deal to pass through parliament, thus ending what could otherwise be months and months of political wrangling.



    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/09/labour-amendment-supporting-second-referendum-put-on-hold
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

    I'm guessing Mr Francois's constituency is nowhere near the Broughton or Filton Airbus plants?

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    Phantom66 said:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

    I'm guessing Mr Francois's constituency is nowhere near the Broughton or Filton Airbus plants?

    No its in Essex.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
    edited March 2019
    Corbyn couldn't have done it.



    Mauricio Pochettino's half-time team talk 'one of the best things I have witnessed in football', says Danny Rose



    Danny Rose described Mauricio Pochettino’s half-time team talk in Saturday’s north London derby as “one of the best things I have witnessed in football” as he revealed how the Tottenham Hotspur manager sent his players “to war” in the second half.
    Spurs were trailing to Aaron Ramsey’s early goal for Arsenal and facing a third consecutive defeat before a Harry Kane equaliser and a late Hugo Lloris penalty save rescued a crucial point.
    Pochettino had stormed down the tunnel towards the dressing room before the first half had finished, and Rose revealed that the Spurs manager exchanged his usually calm team-talk for a more “passionate” approach.
    “We were on the back of a really difficult week,”...



    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/03/03/mauricio-pochettinos-half-time-team-talk-one-best-things-have/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_pdis-oath_registration_regeditorial-awar_feed_sport_A155_A940_C008444&utm_source=tmgoff&utm_medium=tmgoff_pdis-oath&utm_content=registration_regeditorial&utm_campaign=tmgoff_pdis-oath_registration_regeditorial-awar_feed_sport_A155_A940_C008444

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,055
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    This is interesting >>>
    Driving after Brexit: What you need to know

    At the moment, UK driving licences may be used to drive anywhere in the EEA (this is the EU plus Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway).

    If Theresa May's withdrawal agreement is passed, UK licences will still be valid for visiting EEA countries.

    If the UK leaves the EU without a deal, then the situation gets complicated.

    The government will try to do deals allowing UK licences to be recognised for visits to Europe. But if it doesn't manage to do so, then drivers will need an International Driving Permit (IDP) for all EEA countries except the Republic of Ireland. IDPs can be bought at Post Offices for £5.50. You may also need to carry your UK driving licence.

    There are three different types of IDP, known as the 1926, 1949 and 1968 IDPs - the numbers refer to the dates of the conventions on road traffic that established them.

    The 1926 IDP will be needed for drivers wanting to visit Liechtenstein
    The 1949 permit covers Spain, Iceland, Malta and Cyprus
    The 1968 permit allows driving in all other EU countries, plus Norway and Switzerland
    There will also be changes to the types of IDP you need to be able to drive in countries outside the EEA. For example, if you want to visit Turkey by car before 29 March, you will need a 1949 IDP - but after 29 March, you will need a 1968 IDP. You can find the full list of which IDP you need on this page.

    IDPs apply only for visiting other countries. If you are a UK licence-holder living in another EU country, then you need to exchange your UK licence for a licence issued by an EU country, before the UK leaves. If you wait until after the UK leaves, then you may need to take another driving test.

    EU and EEA licenses will continue to be accepted in the UK for visitors and residents.

    If the UK leaves the EU without a deal, you will also need to get a Green Card from your insurer to prove your car is covered.

    The Green Card is only proof of a minimum level of third-party cover - it will not necessarily match the level of cover that you pay for in the UK. Check with your insurer to find out what level of cover you will get.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47459859
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