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Brexit
Great quote on the telly last night.
"If we all knew what we were voting for in the referendum 2 years ago, why does no one know what it is now?
"If we all knew what we were voting for in the referendum 2 years ago, why does no one know what it is now?
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More than likely a bit of each tbh.
The majority of the voting public probably didn't know the intricacies of what they were voting for, why would they, they are regular people, not those that understand what is best for the county and wider world.
It was a bit like asking my Mother on the best way to play a Poker hand. She has never played Poker in her life, but her opinion via a referendum would carry the same weight as Phil Ivey or Phil Helmuth.
Some decisions we should leave for the elected "experts", that's why we have a government.
Anyway this is just a lighthearted tongue in cheek response, not something I'd go back and forth on. The referendum took place, and we should try and get as close to what was expected by the people. Although different "leave voters" had different expectations, so it's not clear.
FWIW, I don't think most people did know what they were voting for, beyond, "Leaving the EU", so the first part of the above statement, for a lot of voters, isn't quite true.
It is a scandal that 2 years after the referendum, we still haven't a clue as to what will happen.
I am not sure that many people would have voted to leave if it had been clear that this would mean many job losses, and people becoming poorer.
It is undoubtedly true that Immigration was the key issue-however, people seem incapable of recognising that immigration from outside the EU is completely unaffected by whether we are in or out of the EU. There was nothing stopping us introducing a points system for anyone from outside the EU before Brexit.
I love the idea that the UK can negotiate better trade deals than the EU (1 country being SO much more attractive than 27)-and in breaking news, Waitrose can buy stuff cheaper than Tesco
Democracy has its good points, but the general public should never have been tasked with such a monumental decision, the people “in power” had/have no idea what Brexit means for the country, so how should the people know what impact on our lives this will have.
Wouldn't the best of both worlds be, leaving the EU, staying in the customs union and the single market, whilst improving the trade we do with other countries, without doing trade deals.
If you want true democracy then everybody who is eligible to do so must vote by law (how many people complain about everything and yet never go to the ballot box) and each vote must count (proportional representation). Anything else is a corruption of true democracy.
I await my invitation from Mr. Dimbleby.
yours in politics
Mark.
It was nothing to do with democracy.
This complacency probably led to such a poor campaign for staying in.
We pay the MPs to do what’s best for the country.
The referendum on in or out was similar to employing a financial adviser, paying him vast sums of money, then he rings you up and asks what stocks and shares to buy....
Been around long enough,to realise politicians don't deserve my vote.
No matter what happens with brexit, it will have little or no effect on me or my lifestyle.
Whats disappointing for me is that quite a number of politicians are forcing the government into making choices that suit them rather than whats best for the country.
Also the complete lack of progress in the negotiations, in the 2 years since the referendum is worrying.
Any problem seems to have been kicked down the road.
Also its no coincidence that many of the countries with appalling records on human rights, freedom of the press, and indoctrination are Marxist communist regimes, remember Stalin murdered more people than Hitler.
Still awaiting my invitation from question time
yours in politics
Mark
So the ordinary folk came out in record numbers to show them how we feel
If there were more detailed discussions way before the referendum people may have been wiser sadly there was nothing
Although I think that the vast majority don't take any real interest in politics. What we tend to do in this Country if things are going well, is reelect the current government, and if things are going badly elect the opposition.
I think this reasoning may have been applied to the referendum. Where things were not going well and we were in the EU, so perhaps we ought to try being out of it. This was despite the fact that the reasons we were doing badly had nothing to do with being members of the EU.
The fact that we will not be allowed to get the same deal as non members, as we got when we were, means that we will definitely be worse off.
Many manufacturers have set up in this Country to easily access Europe, not just to sell to Brits.
The Government admitted on Sunday that a failure to sort out the Customs mess would result in job losses in car manufacturing. If the foreign car manufacturers moved their factories to Europe this alone would result in the loss of thousands of jobs. These are good jobs as the average wage in the car industry is £36k.
I cant believe that the British public would have knowingly voted to become poorer.
The Toff's believe that they are invincible.
However, the old adage "the bigger they are the harder they fall" could be a most unsatisfactory ending for the Country.
I am not saying that all that voted leave come under the above bracket, but there were enough that did to sway the vote.
Just my opinion of course. :=)
I voted out and I'm not prejudice I may be ignorant I don't do politics I just wanted out hoping to upset the Applecart
Plus when you've got nowt how much worse can it get