That just proves Boris is a liar and a hypocrite like most of the other members. It was obvious that concessions had to be made to have any chance of leaving with a deal. Is there anybody in the U.K. that doesn’t know there will be a downside to leaving the EU? How long that will last is anybody’s guess. Any type of deal will affect certain people’s jobs and wealth. I’d expect people to fight their corner, obviously, but upholding democracy is far more important. It seems that everyone has their own agenda, including newspapers, of which I haven’t purchased for 25years. Remember Murdock sidling up to Blair because he was after control of Sky ? So his papers had a relentless onslaught of the Tories. Then , as he doesn’t get a result from Blair, he switches his onslaught in his papers towards Labour. I think it’s best to think and draw your on conclusions, than to take in any media hype and sensationalism. And I still think those members that have left the parties with which they were elected to represent, shouldn’t be allowed in the chamber. They were elected to represent a party and not themselves.
I would agree that when an MP voluntarily leaves one party in order to join another, a by-election should automatically be triggered. Where I have reservations, is when PMs could use this to alter the make up of Parliament to suit their own ends. I think we gain from the fact that our main parties usually include a broad range of views. I think that we would lose out if all the Labour MPs were Jeremy Corbyns, and all the Tories were like Mark Francois. So in the case of the 21 Tory rebels, automatic by-elections might have resulted in another 21 like Mark Francois, if Boris had instructed the party to bias the selection of their replacements.
If there were by-elections around the time those members jumped ship, swapped sides etc, then that would surely give a good indication as to the public’s opinion?
If there were by-elections around the time those members jumped ship, swapped sides etc, then that would surely give a good indication as to the public’s opinion?
Possibly, although many Tory voters haven't got it in them to vote Labour.
The front pages focus on Boris Johnson's final attempt to force Brexit through by Halloween. "Now it really is crunch time", says the Daily Mail, which predicts a "Titanic Tuesday" in Parliament. The Financial Times says the prime minister is hoping to secure a "significant breakthrough" in his battle to deliver Brexit and predicts he could scrape home, by 320 to 315, when the Commons votes on the second reading of the bill. But the paper adds that the move to fast-track the deal through the Commons in just three days has prompted a "furious" response from a number of MPs, with some claiming they are being asked to "vote blindly" on the agreement. The Times says the DUP has joined protests over the tight timetable, which it describes as an "ominous" sign for Mr Johnson. The Guardian, meanwhile, quotes independent unionist MP Sylvia Hermon calling on Mr Johnson to visit Northern Ireland. She says he should explain to people there why they deserve "just three days' consideration" of major changes that will affect them. The Daily Mirror accuses Number 10 of trying to "ram" the measures through. But an editorial in the Sun urges readers not to be duped by what it calls "weasel politicians", warning that any Labour amendment to keep the UK in a customs union would be a vote not to soften Brexit, but to stop it. Such an amendment would prompt the prime minister to abandon his Brexit legislation, the Daily Telegraph predicts, and then demand an immediate election.
Probably the biggest mistake with the referendum was the lack of a super majority requirement, for such an important change. I think that those that blame our politicians for the current impasse are ignoring the facts. If the general public had been able to vote on all the options like, a customs union, second referendum, closer ties, no deal, etc, etc, I see no reason to suggest that the results would have been any different. Parliament in my view just reflects the narrow split in the country. If anything the number of lies since the referendum campaign have increased. No UK PM could ever consider an Irish Sea Border, yet, exactly that is now the plan. Scotland would prefer the same conditions as NI, but that is not possible. NI has to wait 5 years to amend their terms and conditions, however badly they are affected, although the alternative appears to be a land border. There seems to growing support for "getting it done" amongst MPs, and the general public. This view would seem to ignore the fact that this is the most important decision in a generation, and details matter. Also ignored is the fact that trade negotiations will go on for years. Those members of the general public that expect that leaving at the end of October puts an end to this matter, are sadly deluded. We could end up back here next Summer, where it will be impossible to have concluded a trade deal, but possible, yet again, to leave without a deal. Those in favour of remaining are unlikely to forgive the opposition leaders, for not getting a referendum through. Labours slump in the polls, despite the ineffectiveness of the Tories over the last three and a half years, is a reflection of Corbyns leadership, as is his own popularity. The electorate will have a long time to figure out who is to blame for the outcome, and who was lying about what. Boris cant get his deal through without Labour support. Any repercussions for these MPs? That will be interesting. Its a shame that Brexit is likely to lead to the break up of the union. There is a growing majority in favour of an independence referendum in Scotland. The effect of the deal on NI, may well lead to a united Ireland. Under these circumstances it is difficult to predict the future of Wales. How long before a huge majority realise that it was a huge mistake?
Probably the biggest mistake with the referendum was the lack of a super majority requirement, for such an important change. I think that those that blame our politicians for the current impasse are ignoring the facts. If the general public had been able to vote on all the options like, a customs union, second referendum, closer ties, no deal, etc, etc, I see no reason to suggest that the results would have been any different. Parliament in my view just reflects the narrow split in the country. If anything the number of lies since the referendum campaign have increased. No UK PM could ever consider an Irish Sea Border, yet, exactly that is now the plan. Scotland would prefer the same conditions as NI, but that is not possible. NI has to wait 5 years to amend their terms and conditions, however badly they are affected, although the alternative appears to be a land border. There seems to growing support for "getting it done" amongst MPs, and the general public. This view would seem to ignore the fact that this is the most important decision in a generation, and details matter. Also ignored is the fact that trade negotiations will go on for years. Those members of the general public that expect that leaving at the end of October puts an end to this matter, are sadly deluded. We could end up back here next Summer, where it will be impossible to have concluded a trade deal, but possible, yet again, to leave without a deal. Those in favour of remaining are unlikely to forgive the opposition leaders, for not getting a referendum through. Labours slump in the polls, despite the ineffectiveness of the Tories over the last three and a half years, is a reflection of Corbyns leadership, as is his own popularity. The electorate will have a long time to figure out who is to blame for the outcome, and who was lying about what. Boris cant get his deal through without Labour support. Any repercussions for these MPs? That will be interesting. Its a shame that Brexit is likely to lead to the break up of the union. There is a growing majority in favour of an independence referendum in Scotland. The effect of the deal on NI, may well lead to a united Ireland. Under these circumstances it is difficult to predict the future of Wales. How long before a huge majority realise that it was a huge mistake?
Barrage of Brexit red tape exposed for British firms selling to Northern Ireland The government's own impact assessment of the Brexit deal confirms firms will have to pay fees, fill out forms and face border inspections when sending goods within the UK
British firms selling into Northern Ireland will be hit with a barrage of red tape and higher costs under Boris Johnson's Brexit deal, government documents confirm. Analysis slipped online late tonight confirms British firms will have to fill out at least two customs forms for goods traded west across the Irish Sea.
This will lead to "additional administrative costs" on goods moving from east to west - estimated at around £15 to £56 per customs declaration. Separately firms will also face fees of at least 55 Euros (£47) at border inspection posts when sending "products of animal origin" from Britain to Northern Ireland. In other developments the government admitted the deal itself will cost £167m a year; other costs simply couldn't be worked out due to a lack of data; and a new public body will cost millions of pounds per year. The revelations - contained in a 69-page impact assessment of Boris Johnson's Withdrawal Agreement Bill - is likely to enrage his allies in the DUP, who slammed the deal for creating a border in the Irish Sea.
A weaker economy with a good deal of inflation is the likely outcome. Like the stock market that crashes, you rebuild. Best not to carry too much personal debt.
The papers are dominated by Tuesday's momentous votes on Boris Johnson's Brexit deal. Several of them are critical of MPs - after they backed the prime minister's withdrawal agreement, but rejected his plan to get the legislation through Parliament this week. The Daily Mail has a photograph of Mr Johnson addressing the Commons alongside the headline "Trust this lot to turn triumph into disaster!" The Daily Express is also dismayed, arguing the "historic" deal was "soured by fresh parliamentary skulduggery from Remainers... on an evening of high farce at Westminster". "Defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory in 15 minutes," according to the Daily Telegraph. There's widespread agreement that Tuesday's defeat has ended Mr Johnson's hopes of leading the UK out of the EU at the end of the month. The Mirror insists he "doesn't stand a ghost of a chance of leaving on Halloween after a nightmare in the Commons". But the Guardian suggests Mr Johnson could continue to try to steer his deal through parliament, rather than push for an election as he threatened. It says he may be "swayed" by the larger-than-expected government majority in the vote on the principle of his deal.
Several papers call for an election. According to the Sun, Westminster turned into a "tragic roundabout" last night as politicians got trapped in a never-ending circle, leaving the nation "stuck in limbo". "Voters", it says, "are desperate to fire this abysmal parliament". For the Telegraph, "this parliament has forfeited its right to remain in existence", given its inability to resolve the greatest political issue of recent times. The paper's leader column argues that any credibility Jeremy Corbyn has left "will be shredded" if he refuses an election for a third time, given that the Labour leader has consistently demanded the opportunity to challenge the government at the ballot box.
A weaker economy with a good deal of inflation is the likely outcome. Like the stock market that crashes, you rebuild. Best not to carry too much personal debt.
Brexit: Who were the 19 Labour MPs who backed the deal at second reading? Boris Johnson's bid to get his deal approved passed the first hurdle, but it wouldn't have done without the votes of 19 Labour MPs
I may purchase the book ‘ 52 Times Britain was a Bell End’ to see if Brexit is in there.
Below is an excerpt explaining why we Slaughtered the Vikings.
The Danes made themselves too acceptable to English women by their elegant manners and their care of their person,” one 13th century chronicle read, justifying why the slaughter took place.
“They combed their hair daily, according to the custom of their country, and took a bath every Saturday,”
I know you already want to find their graves, dig up their skeletons and burn them one more time for this, but wait, there’s more.
“And even changed their clothes frequently, and improved the beauty of their bodies with many such trifles, by which means they undermined the chastity of wives.”
Yes, as well as bathing four times a month, like the Queen or a high-end dog, these bastards were changing their clothes.
I may purchase the book ‘ 52 Times Britain was a Bell End’ to see if Brexit is in there.
Below is an excerpt explaining why we Slaughtered the Vikings.
The Danes made themselves too acceptable to English women by their elegant manners and their care of their person,” one 13th century chronicle read, justifying why the slaughter took place.
“They combed their hair daily, according to the custom of their country, and took a bath every Saturday,”
I know you already want to find their graves, dig up their skeletons and burn them one more time for this, but wait, there’s more.
“And even changed their clothes frequently, and improved the beauty of their bodies with many such trifles, by which means they undermined the chastity of wives.”
Yes, as well as bathing four times a month, like the Queen or a high-end dog, these bastards were changing their clothes.
Photographs of the white refrigerated container in which 39 bodies were found appear on many of Thursday's front pages. The Daily Mirror calls it "The tomb of steel". The Daily Telegraph says police are investigating a suspected Irish people-smuggling ring in connection with the deaths. "Why were warnings ignored?", asks the Daily Mail in its headline. The paper says the National Crime Agency had warned three years ago that people smugglers were switching to Purfleet - the port in Essex thought to have been used by the container. The Times says officials had failed to heed repeated warnings about criminal gangs smuggling migrants in refrigerated containers. The metal-sided trailers are used, according to the Daily Mirror, because their human cargo cannot be detected by thermal imaging cameras used at ports. The paper suggests that checks on containers from ports such as Zeebrugge are "almost non-existent". The Telegraph describes "Belgium as the new battleground in the fight against illegal immigrants", while analysis in the Guardian blames government policy for the deaths, saying smugglers use life-threatening methods to reach Britain when safe and legal routes are shut down. The i says spot checks have now been increased on lorries arriving in the UK. Buts its editor asks: How long will these continue?
While the Financial Times and the Guardian report splits within Boris Johnson's cabinet over how to proceed with Brexit, both papers also suggest there are disagreements within Labour as well. The FT says 140 Labour MPs have signalled to whips they would not vote for an early election, even if ordered to. One backbencher explained they fear a "massacre" at the polls. According to the Guardian, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is facing "significant pressure" to resist any government calls for an election.
Responding to Wednesday's National Audit Office report that suggested fracking was "years behind schedule", the Sun declares it a "scandal that the fracking revolution was strangled at birth". The paper blames a green social media for terrifying the public, using what it calls "out-of-date and debunked US stories". The Telegraph reports that a cross party group of MPs will table an amendment to ban fracking in Thursday's Queen's speech debate. The paper says it is just one of a series of planned disruptive amendments. Several newspapers report that smart motorways - which have hard shoulders that should be used only at peak times - are "a bit too smart". The head of Highways England has admitted that drivers do not understand when to use them. The Mail says drivers have also been killed because of delays in installing technology to spot broken down vehicles. The extra kit is now being added on existing motorways. The FT reports that the UK will need to spend £240bn on installing an average of 4,000 electric vehicle charging points and heat pumps a day if the government is to meet its target to cut greenhouse gas emissions. Twenty-five million charging points are required.
The Telegraph suggests living near such a point boosts the value of properties nearby. And finally, The mystery of why the Bayeux Tapestry is so long and thin has finally been solved, according to the Telegraph. A professor of art history, Christopher Norton from the University of York, has found that the embroidery's measurements fit perfectly into a long forgotten area of Bayeux Cathedral. Prof Norton tells the Times his suggestion will rattle fellow historians. But another art historian backs the theory, saying it is hard to see how the tapestry could made far from the cathedral.
Certain words appear again and again as Friday's papers examine the prime minister's call for MPs to back a pre-Christmas general election. One of them is "gamble". The Financial Times says Boris Johnson is taking one by calling for a 12 December poll, rather than battling to get his Withdrawal Agreement Bill ratified by Parliament. It may appear to be one, the Sun concludes, but Mr Johnson has little choice. But privately, some Conservatives are concerned that it's one that could easily backfire if the electorate objects to a Christmas vote, says the Guardian. Another word that features, in both the Times and the Daily Telegraph, is "stalemate". Both papers urge Labour to break it by accepting an election.
Detectives investigating the 39 bodies found in a lorry in Essex are focusing on three suspected members of a criminal gang based in South Armagh, according to the Telegraph. The Sun suggests the three are known to police in connection with alcohol and cigarette smuggling. Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror says Chinese gangsters from the notorious Snakehead gang are feared to have played a part. The Times reports that residents near Purfleet - where the lorry arrived - say people-smuggling at the port is rife. They have found stacks of discarded passports and seen groups of migrants being loaded from lorries onto coaches.
Vaccines in supermarkets The Daily Mail takes credit for what it calls "a dramatic new MMR vaccine plan for children" following the paper's recent campaign on the issue. GPs, the paper explains, are to hold extra vaccination clinics at evenings and weekends. The Telegraph says the jabs could be offered in supermarkets, while the Sun suggests doctors will be offered bonuses to reverse what it calls the "alarming" fall in vaccination rates. The Daily Express shows a picture of a campaigner for people with cystic fibrosis hugging Health Secretary Matt Hancock. Carlie Pleasant speaks of her delight after NHS England announced on Thursday that it had reached a deal to ensure people with the disorder have access to what the paper calls two "wonder drugs". The Express suggests the medicines could help at least 5,000 people in England. Ms Pleasant, who has cystic fibrosis, says: "Thank you for giving my life back."
Emotional support animals Air passengers, says the Times, are used to thick fog or industrial action delaying their flights - but perhaps not French bulldogs wearing tutus. The dogs, on a flight from Gatwick to the United States, were meant to be "emotional support animals". The paper says many pets, from pigs to birds of prey, have claimed this title to get on passenger flights. The Sun has a picture of one of the dogs, complete with orange skirt. The paper says the pair were taken off the plane after they began "barking wildly in the cabin". The Times suggests the dogs were struggling to "contain their emotions".
'Huw grit' Several papers, including the Guardian, report on figures which suggest a record 75% of mothers are in work in the UK. The paper notes that while fathers are more likely to work, there has been a slight decline to 92.6%. But the head of the Young Women's Trust tells the paper that many women are sidelined in low paid, insecure work with few prospects of promotion. And finally, the BBC television newsreader, Huw Edwards, appears on the front of the Sun. The paper says the presenter chased a burglar out of his home and into the street in his pyjamas. A source tells the paper that he was a whisker too late to stop the intruder taking his Mercedes. And the paper's headline? Huw Grit!
Probably the biggest mistake with the referendum was the lack of a super majority requirement, for such an important change. I think that those that blame our politicians for the current impasse are ignoring the facts. If the general public had been able to vote on all the options like, a customs union, second referendum, closer ties, no deal, etc, etc, I see no reason to suggest that the results would have been any different. Parliament in my view just reflects the narrow split in the country. If anything the number of lies since the referendum campaign have increased. No UK PM could ever consider an Irish Sea Border, yet, exactly that is now the plan. Scotland would prefer the same conditions as NI, but that is not possible. NI has to wait 5 years to amend their terms and conditions, however badly they are affected, although the alternative appears to be a land border. There seems to growing support for "getting it done" amongst MPs, and the general public. This view would seem to ignore the fact that this is the most important decision in a generation, and details matter. Also ignored is the fact that trade negotiations will go on for years. Those members of the general public that expect that leaving at the end of October puts an end to this matter, are sadly deluded. We could end up back here next Summer, where it will be impossible to have concluded a trade deal, but possible, yet again, to leave without a deal. Those in favour of remaining are unlikely to forgive the opposition leaders, for not getting a referendum through. Labours slump in the polls, despite the ineffectiveness of the Tories over the last three and a half years, is a reflection of Corbyns leadership, as is his own popularity. The electorate will have a long time to figure out who is to blame for the outcome, and who was lying about what. Boris cant get his deal through without Labour support. Any repercussions for these MPs? That will be interesting. Its a shame that Brexit is likely to lead to the break up of the union. There is a growing majority in favour of an independence referendum in Scotland. The effect of the deal on NI, may well lead to a united Ireland. Under these circumstances it is difficult to predict the future of Wales. How long before a huge majority realise that it was a huge mistake?
Probably the biggest mistake with the referendum was the lack of a super majority requirement, for such an important change. I think that those that blame our politicians for the current impasse are ignoring the facts. If the general public had been able to vote on all the options like, a customs union, second referendum, closer ties, no deal, etc, etc, I see no reason to suggest that the results would have been any different. Parliament in my view just reflects the narrow split in the country. If anything the number of lies since the referendum campaign have increased. No UK PM could ever consider an Irish Sea Border, yet, exactly that is now the plan. Scotland would prefer the same conditions as NI, but that is not possible. NI has to wait 5 years to amend their terms and conditions, however badly they are affected, although the alternative appears to be a land border. There seems to growing support for "getting it done" amongst MPs, and the general public. This view would seem to ignore the fact that this is the most important decision in a generation, and details matter. Also ignored is the fact that trade negotiations will go on for years. Those members of the general public that expect that leaving at the end of October puts an end to this matter, are sadly deluded. We could end up back here next Summer, where it will be impossible to have concluded a trade deal, but possible, yet again, to leave without a deal. Those in favour of remaining are unlikely to forgive the opposition leaders, for not getting a referendum through. Labours slump in the polls, despite the ineffectiveness of the Tories over the last three and a half years, is a reflection of Corbyns leadership, as is his own popularity. The electorate will have a long time to figure out who is to blame for the outcome, and who was lying about what. Boris cant get his deal through without Labour support. Any repercussions for these MPs? That will be interesting. Its a shame that Brexit is likely to lead to the break up of the union. There is a growing majority in favour of an independence referendum in Scotland. The effect of the deal on NI, may well lead to a united Ireland. Under these circumstances it is difficult to predict the future of Wales. How long before a huge majority realise that it was a huge mistake?
The MPs only had 69 days of Referendum campaigning. I never once heard of an issue with Northern Ireland. What were they doing? On my patch,Woking, the Tory MP voted for Brexit, whereas most of his supporters voted remain. My local forums are a great read, hope that applies to everybody else's..
My thoughts on what has just happened. Johnson and Macron had this arranged as the last resort. The EU are as bored of this as most of the UK are. Now the heats on Corbyn to go for an election, otherwise Corbyn will look responsible for a no deal Brexit.Another Referendum is out of the equation. When the election occurs,Boris has his deal voted for ( although not passed)so it will likely be a hung Parliament. The Lib dems are now in the mire,with clashes between them and labour on the horizon.
A near global recession looms. Trade wars, China slowing down big time, unrest all over the place. Keep an eye on the Banks. They're going to get hit again down the line, as there are so many flakey businesses that barely make any profit, but carry far too much debt.
I thought I'd post this as I'm off again. I have the feeling some will say good. Each to their own.
Most of the front pages feature the same image of Pham Thi Tra My - the Vietnamese woman who is thought to be one of the people whose body was found in the back of a lorry in Essex. The The Times' headline highlights what the paper calls a "series of desperate messages" she sent to her family. "I'm dying because I can't breathe. I'm sorry Mum." The Daily Telegraph says the texts were sent at 22:30 BST on Tuesday - three hours before the lorry was opened and 39 bodies were discovered inside. The The Guardian says "heartbreaking" appeals for information by Vietnamese families "appear to contradict" the initial suggestion by police that all of those who died were Chinese - but adds it is understood that some of the Vietnamese victims may have been using Chinese passports.
Immigration sources have told the Daily Mail that British checks at ports used to smuggle people into the UK have been "scaled back" over the past 18 months as manpower was diverted to the migrant crisis in the Channel. Workers rights A leaked paper has raised fears over workers' rights after Brexit, according to the Financial Times. The document - drafted by the Brexit department - is said to show the government plans to diverge from Brussels on regulations, despite pledging to maintain a level playing field. The FT says the paper also "appears to contradict" comments by Boris Johnson on Wednesday - when he said the UK was committed to the highest possible standards for workers' rights. The shadow Brexit minister, Jenny Chapman, is quoted as saying the document confirms Labour's "worst fears". The Brexit department has declined to comment.
A book, which sets out how Theresa May was "surly" and a "terrible campaigner" during the last election, is featured on the front page of the Times. The book entitled "May At Ten", which is being serialised by the paper, says the former prime minister was "so prickly" that one of her advisors had to become a full-time minder. Written by the historian, Sir Anthony Seldon, the book also describes Mrs May as having "tears in her eyes" as she "banged her fist on the table" to insist that the social care reform, later dubbed the dementia tax, was included in her manifesto.
'Establishment fudge' Sir Anthony concludes that the campaign "cruelly exposed" what he calls Mrs May's "unusually inflexible and introverted character". Survivors and families of those who died in the Grenfell Tower disaster have told the Guardian that they fear next week's official report on the fire will be an "establishment fudge" that will become "drowned out by Brexit". The paper says they've urged the chairman of the public inquiry, Sir Martin Moore-Bick, to "be as hard-hitting" as the Macpherson report into the murder of Stephen Lawrence and include "strong criticism" of the leadership of the London Fire Brigade. But they are concerned he will "go soft on the authorities". "I hope Moore-Bick sees his place in history", says one man who witnessed people falling from the burning building.
An analysis of charity donations on self-assessment tax forms has led the Times to conclude that the richest Britons are "failing to do their bit" for those who are less fortunate. The paper found that nearly two thirds of people earning more than £250,000 "gave nothing" to good causes last year and reports that the average donation made by those high earners is only 1.7% of their income, compared with 3.1% by people who earn less than £50,000. Campaigners have told the Times the figures underline why Britain needs "a revolution in philanthropic giving".
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Where I have reservations, is when PMs could use this to alter the make up of Parliament to suit their own ends.
I think we gain from the fact that our main parties usually include a broad range of views.
I think that we would lose out if all the Labour MPs were Jeremy Corbyns, and all the Tories were like Mark Francois.
So in the case of the 21 Tory rebels, automatic by-elections might have resulted in another 21 like Mark Francois, if Boris had instructed the party to bias the selection of their replacements.
The front pages focus on Boris Johnson's final attempt to force Brexit through by Halloween.
"Now it really is crunch time", says the Daily Mail, which predicts a "Titanic Tuesday" in Parliament.
The Financial Times says the prime minister is hoping to secure a "significant breakthrough" in his battle to deliver Brexit and predicts he could scrape home, by 320 to 315, when the Commons votes on the second reading of the bill.
But the paper adds that the move to fast-track the deal through the Commons in just three days has prompted a "furious" response from a number of MPs, with some claiming they are being asked to "vote blindly" on the agreement.
The Times says the DUP has joined protests over the tight timetable, which it describes as an "ominous" sign for Mr Johnson.
The Guardian, meanwhile, quotes independent unionist MP Sylvia Hermon calling on Mr Johnson to visit Northern Ireland.
She says he should explain to people there why they deserve "just three days' consideration" of major changes that will affect them.
The Daily Mirror accuses Number 10 of trying to "ram" the measures through.
But an editorial in the Sun urges readers not to be duped by what it calls "weasel politicians", warning that any Labour amendment to keep the UK in a customs union would be a vote not to soften Brexit, but to stop it. Such an amendment would prompt the prime minister to abandon his Brexit legislation, the Daily Telegraph predicts, and then demand an immediate election.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50133561
I think that those that blame our politicians for the current impasse are ignoring the facts.
If the general public had been able to vote on all the options like, a customs union, second referendum, closer ties, no deal, etc, etc, I see no reason to suggest that the results would have been any different.
Parliament in my view just reflects the narrow split in the country.
If anything the number of lies since the referendum campaign have increased.
No UK PM could ever consider an Irish Sea Border, yet, exactly that is now the plan.
Scotland would prefer the same conditions as NI, but that is not possible.
NI has to wait 5 years to amend their terms and conditions, however badly they are affected, although the alternative appears to be a land border.
There seems to growing support for "getting it done" amongst MPs, and the general public.
This view would seem to ignore the fact that this is the most important decision in a generation, and details matter.
Also ignored is the fact that trade negotiations will go on for years.
Those members of the general public that expect that leaving at the end of October puts an end to this matter, are sadly deluded.
We could end up back here next Summer, where it will be impossible to have concluded a trade deal, but possible, yet again, to leave without a deal.
Those in favour of remaining are unlikely to forgive the opposition leaders, for not getting a referendum through.
Labours slump in the polls, despite the ineffectiveness of the Tories over the last three and a half years, is a reflection of Corbyns leadership, as is his own popularity.
The electorate will have a long time to figure out who is to blame for the outcome, and who was lying about what.
Boris cant get his deal through without Labour support.
Any repercussions for these MPs?
That will be interesting.
Its a shame that Brexit is likely to lead to the break up of the union.
There is a growing majority in favour of an independence referendum in Scotland.
The effect of the deal on NI, may well lead to a united Ireland.
Under these circumstances it is difficult to predict the future of Wales.
How long before a huge majority realise that it was a huge mistake?
The government's own impact assessment of the Brexit deal confirms firms will have to pay fees, fill out forms and face border inspections when sending goods within the
UK
British firms selling into Northern Ireland will be hit with a barrage of red tape and higher costs under Boris Johnson's Brexit deal, government documents confirm.
Analysis slipped online late tonight confirms British firms will have to fill out at least two customs forms for goods traded west across the Irish Sea.
This will lead to "additional administrative costs" on goods moving from east to west - estimated at around £15 to £56 per customs declaration.
Separately firms will also face fees of at least 55 Euros (£47) at border inspection posts when sending "products of animal origin" from Britain to Northern Ireland.
In other developments the government admitted the deal itself will cost £167m a year; other costs simply couldn't be worked out due to a lack of data; and a new public body will cost millions of pounds per year.
The revelations - contained in a 69-page impact assessment of Boris Johnson's Withdrawal Agreement Bill - is likely to enrage his allies in the DUP, who slammed the deal for creating a border in the Irish Sea.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/barrage-brexit-red-tape-exposed-20669292
Like the stock market that crashes, you rebuild.
Best not to carry too much personal debt.
The papers are dominated by Tuesday's momentous votes on Boris Johnson's Brexit deal.
Several of them are critical of MPs - after they backed the prime minister's withdrawal agreement, but rejected his plan to get the legislation through Parliament this week.
The Daily Mail has a photograph of Mr Johnson addressing the Commons alongside the headline "Trust this lot to turn triumph into disaster!"
The Daily Express is also dismayed, arguing the "historic" deal was "soured by fresh parliamentary skulduggery from Remainers... on an evening of high farce at Westminster".
"Defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory in 15 minutes," according to the Daily Telegraph.
There's widespread agreement that Tuesday's defeat has ended Mr Johnson's hopes of leading the UK out of the EU at the end of the month.
The Mirror insists he "doesn't stand a ghost of a chance of leaving on Halloween after a nightmare in the Commons".
But the Guardian suggests Mr Johnson could continue to try to steer his deal through parliament, rather than push for an election as he threatened.
It says he may be "swayed" by the larger-than-expected government majority in the vote on the principle of his deal.
Several papers call for an election.
According to the Sun, Westminster turned into a "tragic roundabout" last night as politicians got trapped in a never-ending circle, leaving the nation "stuck in limbo".
"Voters", it says, "are desperate to fire this abysmal parliament".
For the Telegraph, "this parliament has forfeited its right to remain in existence", given its inability to resolve the greatest political issue of recent times.
The paper's leader column argues that any credibility Jeremy Corbyn has left "will be shredded" if he refuses an election for a third time, given that the Labour leader has consistently demanded the opportunity to challenge the government at the ballot box.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50147563
Boris Johnson's bid to get his deal approved passed the first hurdle, but it wouldn't have done without the votes of 19 Labour MPs
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-who-were-19-labour-20701935
Below is an excerpt explaining why we Slaughtered the Vikings.
The Danes made themselves too acceptable to English women by their elegant manners and their care of their person,” one 13th century chronicle read, justifying why the slaughter took place.
“They combed their hair daily, according to the custom of their country, and took a bath every Saturday,”
I know you already want to find their graves, dig up their skeletons and burn them one more time for this, but wait, there’s more.
“And even changed their clothes frequently, and improved the beauty of their bodies with many such trifles, by which means they undermined the chastity of wives.”
Yes, as well as bathing four times a month, like the Queen or a high-end dog, these bastards were changing their clothes.
Photographs of the white refrigerated container in which 39 bodies were found appear on many of Thursday's front pages.
The Daily Mirror calls it "The tomb of steel".
The Daily Telegraph says police are investigating a suspected Irish people-smuggling ring in connection with the deaths.
"Why were warnings ignored?", asks the Daily Mail in its headline. The paper says the National Crime Agency had warned three years ago that people smugglers were switching to Purfleet - the port in Essex thought to have been used by the container.
The Times says officials had failed to heed repeated warnings about criminal gangs smuggling migrants in refrigerated containers.
The metal-sided trailers are used, according to the Daily Mirror, because their human cargo cannot be detected by thermal imaging cameras used at ports.
The paper suggests that checks on containers from ports such as Zeebrugge are "almost non-existent".
The Telegraph describes "Belgium as the new battleground in the fight against illegal immigrants", while analysis in the Guardian blames government policy for the deaths, saying smugglers use life-threatening methods to reach Britain when safe and legal routes are shut down.
The i says spot checks have now been increased on lorries arriving in the UK. Buts its editor asks: How long will these continue?
While the Financial Times and the Guardian report splits within Boris Johnson's cabinet over how to proceed with Brexit, both papers also suggest there are disagreements within Labour as well.
The FT says 140 Labour MPs have signalled to whips they would not vote for an early election, even if ordered to. One backbencher explained they fear a "massacre" at the polls.
According to the Guardian, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is facing "significant pressure" to resist any government calls for an election.
Responding to Wednesday's National Audit Office report that suggested fracking was "years behind schedule", the Sun declares it a "scandal that the fracking revolution was strangled at birth".
The paper blames a green social media for terrifying the public, using what it calls "out-of-date and debunked US stories".
The Telegraph reports that a cross party group of MPs will table an amendment to ban fracking in Thursday's Queen's speech debate.
The paper says it is just one of a series of planned disruptive amendments.
Several newspapers report that smart motorways - which have hard shoulders that should be used only at peak times - are "a bit too smart".
The head of Highways England has admitted that drivers do not understand when to use them.
The Mail says drivers have also been killed because of delays in installing technology to spot broken down vehicles. The extra kit is now being added on existing motorways.
The FT reports that the UK will need to spend £240bn on installing an average of 4,000 electric vehicle charging points and heat pumps a day if the government is to meet its target to cut greenhouse gas emissions.
Twenty-five million charging points are required.
The Telegraph suggests living near such a point boosts the value of properties nearby.
And finally, The mystery of why the Bayeux Tapestry is so long and thin has finally been solved, according to the Telegraph.
A professor of art history, Christopher Norton from the University of York, has found that the embroidery's measurements fit perfectly into a long forgotten area of Bayeux Cathedral.
Prof Norton tells the Times his suggestion will rattle fellow historians. But another art historian backs the theory, saying it is hard to see how the tapestry could made far from the cathedral.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50161996
It seems like some Labour MPs do believe you can polish a tu rd.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/brexit-migrant-lorry-grays-essex-farage-lebanon-a9167906.html
Certain words appear again and again as Friday's papers examine the prime minister's call for MPs to back a pre-Christmas general election.
One of them is "gamble".
The Financial Times says Boris Johnson is taking one by calling for a 12 December poll, rather than battling to get his Withdrawal Agreement Bill ratified by Parliament.
It may appear to be one, the Sun concludes, but Mr Johnson has little choice.
But privately, some Conservatives are concerned that it's one that could easily backfire if the electorate objects to a Christmas vote, says the Guardian.
Another word that features, in both the Times and the Daily Telegraph, is "stalemate". Both papers urge Labour to break it by accepting an election.
Detectives investigating the 39 bodies found in a lorry in Essex are focusing on three suspected members of a criminal gang based in South Armagh, according to the Telegraph.
The Sun suggests the three are known to police in connection with alcohol and cigarette smuggling.
Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror says Chinese gangsters from the notorious Snakehead gang are feared to have played a part.
The Times reports that residents near Purfleet - where the lorry arrived - say people-smuggling at the port is rife.
They have found stacks of discarded passports and seen groups of migrants being loaded from lorries onto coaches.
Vaccines in supermarkets
The Daily Mail takes credit for what it calls "a dramatic new MMR vaccine plan for children" following the paper's recent campaign on the issue.
GPs, the paper explains, are to hold extra vaccination clinics at evenings and weekends.
The Telegraph says the jabs could be offered in supermarkets, while the Sun suggests doctors will be offered bonuses to reverse what it calls the "alarming" fall in vaccination rates.
The Daily Express shows a picture of a campaigner for people with cystic fibrosis hugging Health Secretary Matt Hancock.
Carlie Pleasant speaks of her delight after NHS England announced on Thursday that it had reached a deal to ensure people with the disorder have access to what the paper calls two "wonder drugs".
The Express suggests the medicines could help at least 5,000 people in England. Ms Pleasant, who has cystic fibrosis, says: "Thank you for giving my life back."
Emotional support animals
Air passengers, says the Times, are used to thick fog or industrial action delaying their flights - but perhaps not French bulldogs wearing tutus.
The dogs, on a flight from Gatwick to the United States, were meant to be "emotional support animals".
The paper says many pets, from pigs to birds of prey, have claimed this title to get on passenger flights.
The Sun has a picture of one of the dogs, complete with orange skirt.
The paper says the pair were taken off the plane after they began "barking wildly in the cabin".
The Times suggests the dogs were struggling to "contain their emotions".
'Huw grit'
Several papers, including the Guardian, report on figures which suggest a record 75% of mothers are in work in the UK.
The paper notes that while fathers are more likely to work, there has been a slight decline to 92.6%.
But the head of the Young Women's Trust tells the paper that many women are sidelined in low paid, insecure work with few prospects of promotion.
And finally, the BBC television newsreader, Huw Edwards, appears on the front of the Sun.
The paper says the presenter chased a burglar out of his home and into the street in his pyjamas.
A source tells the paper that he was a whisker too late to stop the intruder taking his Mercedes.
And the paper's headline? Huw Grit!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50177210
I never once heard of an issue with Northern Ireland.
What were they doing?
On my patch,Woking, the Tory MP voted for Brexit, whereas most of his supporters voted remain.
My local forums are a great read, hope that applies to everybody else's..
Johnson and Macron had this arranged as the last resort.
The EU are as bored of this as most of the UK are.
Now the heats on Corbyn to go for an election, otherwise Corbyn will look responsible for a no deal Brexit.Another Referendum is out of the equation.
When the election occurs,Boris has his deal voted for ( although not passed)so it will likely be a hung Parliament.
The Lib dems are now in the mire,with clashes between them and labour on the horizon.
A near global recession looms. Trade wars, China slowing down big time, unrest all over the place.
Keep an eye on the Banks. They're going to get hit again down the line, as there are so many flakey businesses that barely make any profit, but carry far too much debt.
I thought I'd post this as I'm off again. I have the feeling some will say good. Each to their own.
Most of the front pages feature the same image of Pham Thi Tra My - the Vietnamese woman who is thought to be one of the people whose body was found in the back of a lorry in Essex.
The The Times' headline highlights what the paper calls a "series of desperate messages" she sent to her family. "I'm dying because I can't breathe. I'm sorry Mum."
The Daily Telegraph says the texts were sent at 22:30 BST on Tuesday - three hours before the lorry was opened and 39 bodies were discovered inside.
The The Guardian says "heartbreaking" appeals for information by Vietnamese families "appear to contradict" the initial suggestion by police that all of those who died were Chinese - but adds it is understood that some of the Vietnamese victims may have been using Chinese passports.
Immigration sources have told the Daily Mail that British checks at ports used to smuggle people into the UK have been "scaled back" over the past 18 months as manpower was diverted to the migrant crisis in the Channel.
Workers rights
A leaked paper has raised fears over workers' rights after Brexit, according to the Financial Times.
The document - drafted by the Brexit department - is said to show the government plans to diverge from Brussels on regulations, despite pledging to maintain a level playing field.
The FT says the paper also "appears to contradict" comments by Boris Johnson on Wednesday - when he said the UK was committed to the highest possible standards for workers' rights.
The shadow Brexit minister, Jenny Chapman, is quoted as saying the document confirms Labour's "worst fears". The Brexit department has declined to comment.
A book, which sets out how Theresa May was "surly" and a "terrible campaigner" during the last election, is featured on the front page of the Times.
The book entitled "May At Ten", which is being serialised by the paper, says the former prime minister was "so prickly" that one of her advisors had to become a full-time minder.
Written by the historian, Sir Anthony Seldon, the book also describes Mrs May as having "tears in her eyes" as she "banged her fist on the table" to insist that the social care reform, later dubbed the dementia tax, was included in her manifesto.
'Establishment fudge'
Sir Anthony concludes that the campaign "cruelly exposed" what he calls Mrs May's "unusually inflexible and introverted character".
Survivors and families of those who died in the Grenfell Tower disaster have told the Guardian that they fear next week's official report on the fire will be an "establishment fudge" that will become "drowned out by Brexit".
The paper says they've urged the chairman of the public inquiry, Sir Martin Moore-Bick, to "be as hard-hitting" as the Macpherson report into the murder of Stephen Lawrence and include "strong criticism" of the leadership of the London Fire Brigade. But they are concerned he will "go soft on the authorities".
"I hope Moore-Bick sees his place in history", says one man who witnessed people falling from the burning building.
An analysis of charity donations on self-assessment tax forms has led the Times to conclude that the richest Britons are "failing to do their bit" for those who are less fortunate.
The paper found that nearly two thirds of people earning more than £250,000 "gave nothing" to good causes last year and reports that the average donation made by those high earners is only 1.7% of their income, compared with 3.1% by people who earn less than £50,000.
Campaigners have told the Times the figures underline why Britain needs "a revolution in philanthropic giving".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50189799