Mini.

HAYSIE

Is there any reason why there are no re-entries in the mini.

The prize pools in the main have benefitted from the one re-entry rule.

I just wondered why this was not the case in the mini.

Tikay10

Hi @HAYSIE

I have no idea, to be honest.

I'm not entirely sure it would be a move welcomed by many though.

Anyone else got a view?

I'm sure it could be arranged easily enough, but I'm really not convinced it would prove popular with those who can't afford re-entries.

HAYSIE

Tikay10 said:

Hi @HAYSIE

I have no idea, to be honest.

I'm not entirely sure it would be a move welcomed by many though.

Anyone else got a view?

I'm sure it could be arranged easily enough, but I'm really not convinced it would prove popular with those who can't afford re-entries.

Ok, I was just thinking about prize pools, the fact it is a fairly low buy in, and a good prize pool for the money.

The rebuy on a Friday does really well.

I wouldn't want to create a feeling of unfairness.

HAYSIE

I just had a look at Thursdays main.
There were 192 entries and 36 re-entries.
So less than 20% of the players spent any more that the buy in.
Without the re-entries the guarantee would have been missed.
I don't think that you could argue that being allowed to re-enter affected the 80% that didn't.
The percentage might increase on a lower buy in tourney, and wouldn't do any harm to the prize pool.

Tikay10

I don't really have a strong view either way Tony, and I know Sky Poker could easily make the change, but I just have a feeling that many players would be uncomfortable with this.

Let's see if any come on here & make their views known.

HAYSIE

Tikay10 said:

I don't really have a strong view either way Tony, and I know Sky Poker could easily make the change, but I just have a feeling that many players would be uncomfortable with this.

Let's see if any come on here & make their views known.

Ok, no probs.
I am not going to die, either way.
It was merely a suggestion.

MattBates

HAYSIE said:

I just had a look at Thursdays main.
There were 192 entries and 36 re-entries.
So less than 20% of the players spent any more that the buy in.
Without the re-entries the guarantee would have been missed.
I don't think that you could argue that being allowed to re-enter affected the 80% that didn't.
The percentage might increase on a lower buy in tourney, and wouldn't do any harm to the prize pool.

Of course it has an effect on those that cant afford to re enter. If you can re enter then you can play in a lot more aggressive manner compared to someone that cannot.

You say the mini is a fairly low buy in I imagine for quite a lot of players it is the biggest buy in tournament they play.

Tikay10

HAYSIE said:

Tikay10 said:

I don't really have a strong view either way Tony, and I know Sky Poker could easily make the change, but I just have a feeling that many players would be uncomfortable with this.

Let's see if any come on here & make their views known.

Ok, no probs.
I am not going to die, either way.
It was merely a suggestion.

What, ever?

HAYSIE

MattBates said:

HAYSIE said:

I just had a look at Thursdays main.
There were 192 entries and 36 re-entries.
So less than 20% of the players spent any more that the buy in.
Without the re-entries the guarantee would have been missed.
I don't think that you could argue that being allowed to re-enter affected the 80% that didn't.
The percentage might increase on a lower buy in tourney, and wouldn't do any harm to the prize pool.

Of course it has an effect on those that cant afford to re enter. If you can re enter then you can play in a lot more aggressive manner compared to someone that cannot.

You say the mini is a fairly low buy in I imagine for quite a lot of players it is the biggest buy in tournament they play.

I am not clever enough to get into a detailed argument.
I also don't have access to a great deal of stats.
However the mini with the biggest prize pool and most entries, seems to be the rebuy on Friday.
This would seem to go against your affordability argument.
I was proposing one re-entry, as per the main.
The Friday mini has rebuys and add ons.
In yesterdays tourney there were 446 runners, 345 rebuys, and 193 add ons.

HAYSIE

Tikay10 said:

HAYSIE said:

Tikay10 said:

I don't really have a strong view either way Tony, and I know Sky Poker could easily make the change, but I just have a feeling that many players would be uncomfortable with this.

Let's see if any come on here & make their views known.

Ok, no probs.
I am not going to die, either way.
It was merely a suggestion.

What, ever?

Not soon I hope.

Tikay10

HAYSIE said:

Tikay10 said:

HAYSIE said:

Tikay10 said:

I don't really have a strong view either way Tony, and I know Sky Poker could easily make the change, but I just have a feeling that many players would be uncomfortable with this.

Let's see if any come on here & make their views known.

Ok, no probs.
I am not going to die, either way.
It was merely a suggestion.

What, ever?

Not soon I hope.

Well I certainly hope you have many healthy decades ahead of you, but even Welsh people pass away eventually.

HAYSIE

MattBates said:

HAYSIE said:

I just had a look at Thursdays main.
There were 192 entries and 36 re-entries.
So less than 20% of the players spent any more that the buy in.
Without the re-entries the guarantee would have been missed.
I don't think that you could argue that being allowed to re-enter affected the 80% that didn't.
The percentage might increase on a lower buy in tourney, and wouldn't do any harm to the prize pool.

Of course it has an effect on those that cant afford to re enter. If you can re enter then you can play in a lot more aggressive manner compared to someone that cannot.

You say the mini is a fairly low buy in I imagine for quite a lot of players it is the biggest buy in tournament they play.

Some players may be happy with a number of players playing aggressively, with a re-entry in mind, throwing chips around.
All players would benefit from increased prize pools, and more head prizes.

HAYSIE

Tikay10 said:

HAYSIE said:

Tikay10 said:

HAYSIE said:

Tikay10 said:

I don't really have a strong view either way Tony, and I know Sky Poker could easily make the change, but I just have a feeling that many players would be uncomfortable with this.

Let's see if any come on here & make their views known.

Ok, no probs.
I am not going to die, either way.
It was merely a suggestion.

What, ever?

Not soon I hope.

Well I certainly hope you have many healthy decades ahead of you, but even Welsh people pass away eventually.

You are very kind.

HAYSIE

HAYSIE said:

MattBates said:

HAYSIE said:

I just had a look at Thursdays main.
There were 192 entries and 36 re-entries.
So less than 20% of the players spent any more that the buy in.
Without the re-entries the guarantee would have been missed.
I don't think that you could argue that being allowed to re-enter affected the 80% that didn't.
The percentage might increase on a lower buy in tourney, and wouldn't do any harm to the prize pool.

Of course it has an effect on those that cant afford to re enter. If you can re enter then you can play in a lot more aggressive manner compared to someone that cannot.

You say the mini is a fairly low buy in I imagine for quite a lot of players it is the biggest buy in tournament they play.

I am not clever enough to get into a detailed argument.
I also don't have access to a great deal of stats.
However the mini with the biggest prize pool and most entries, seems to be the rebuy on Friday.
This would seem to go against your affordability argument.
I was proposing one re-entry, as per the main.
The Friday mini has rebuys and add ons.
In yesterdays tourney there were 446 runners, 345 rebuys, and 193 add ons.

That's an average of around £11 per runner.

freeatlast

As somebody who mainly plays £5.50 bounty hunters I wouldn’t mind having one re-buy but I wouldn’t satterlite in the £33 and £55 bounty hunters for the reason Matt Bates eluded to

HAYSIE

freeatlast said:

As somebody who mainly plays £5.50 bounty hunters I wouldn’t mind having one re-buy but I wouldn’t satterlite in the £33 and £55 bounty hunters for the reason Matt Bates eluded to

I think a lot of players might like a second bite.

goldnballz

Personally, I would be in favour of having the option of 1 re-entry to the minis

MasoniReef

Does it work well as it is if answer is yes= Dont mess with whats not broken
why should everything have to have rebuy or rentry option

HAYSIE

MasoniReef said:

Does it work well as it is if answer is yes= Dont mess with whats not broken
why should everything have to have rebuy or rentry option

We should have mobile phones as big as briefcases and stay in the EU then.

MasoniReef

there was once a poker site thriving with 100's of tables listened to players got rid of 20bb buyin made it 30 n 40 min
what happened its pratically deserted on cash and if you want over 1-2 even worse
ok for tours to a degree but cash is dead now

HAYSIE

goldnballz said:

Personally, I would be in favour of having the option of 1 re-entry to the minis

I can only see the positive side of this.
It obviously couldn't be compulsory.
If you genuinely didn't have the money you couldn't.
I don't see the difference between one player re-entering, or a different player late entering.
Its the same boat.
This seems to have worked well for the main.

Nothing wrong with bigger prize pools.