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  • webby234webby234 Member Posts: 1,781
    edited March 2010
    its a bounty hunter blackfish, tend  to play different, he was small stack, if he had qq or kk i think he shoves them in pre flop, must have had 777 or 444 imo or a worse ace and got lucky, nothing wrong with the bet after flop
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: serious advice:
    its a bounty hunter blackfish, tend  to play different, he was small stack, if he had qq or kk i think he shoves them in pre flop, must have had 777 or 444 imo or a worse ace and got lucky, nothing wrong with the bet after flop
    Posted by webby234
    yes there was... it was too small imo... you do that to me and i find it difficult not to shove you.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,831
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: serious advice:
    webby you c bet 56% of the pot... that looks very weak imo on that sort of flop... although you are probably beat, you did open yourself up to the check raise bluff by advertising your weakness. I don't know how you could contemplate calling with just 2 overs though... you have 44.5BBs left!!!
    Posted by BlackFish3
    yeah but them 44.5 bbs dont look that good when somebody is shoving every other hand imho
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: serious advice:
    In Response to Re: serious advice : yeah but them 44.5 bbs dont look that good when somebody is shoving every other hand imho
    Posted by stokefc
    I would love to have someone shoving every hand on my table... with 44BBs you have soooo much time to wait for a hand to call them with, just gota be patient. When you get below 20BBs it starts to go downhill imo... anything over that and there is no need to worry.
  • webby234webby234 Member Posts: 1,781
    edited March 2010
    blackfish give over now mate, with the bet i put in i defo got the information i needed, he only had 1100, so when he shoves the lot in i now know i am behind, never realised you were a mtt expert though mate, well done
  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited March 2010
    I think your oppo definatly had a big part of that. I have to disagree with you here blackfish m8. If the pot is 800ish and he has 1100 left, there is no way an check raise is a bluff, he would be expecting webby to bet around 600 which then commits him to having to call the 1100 shove. If oppo bets out on flop he has a risk of losing his opponent if he hasn't hit, so to me it looks like he has left the rope there for webby to hang himself.... That being said, the 1/2 pot bet is good because its 1/3 of your oppo's stack to call and there is no way he can call without a big hand... Think you both played it right.
  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited March 2010
    Webby, playing mtts has huge fluctuations in win/lose ratios. Like you I'm married with a job and (here comes the scary bit) kids. I don't play cash for two reasons. 1. It's very time consuming. 2. I'm rubbish at cash. If you want to have an interest that might be profitable as well as enjoyable then mtt's are great, and as you say the returns for a relatively small outlay can be huge. If you want to make a living from your poker then forget mtts.

    I don't have the time, commitment or ability to make a living at poker so I enjoy my nightly mtts. You need to determine first of all what you want from poker. If, as with me, it's something to run second to your family etc. then mtts are fine. Making a living means playing predominantly cash and takes a massive amount of dedication and commitment.

    From what I've seen, you have a lot of ability, you just need to decide what you want from that ability.
  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited March 2010
    May I ask a foolish Question,  Why change the habit of a life time I hear you say.

    When you guys are talking about "NL20"  or "NL30",  what value are you talking about here.  are you taking about tables with BB of 20p or 30p  OR  £20 or £30.  I am assuming the former but just wanted to check.  I see a lot of posts talking about, for example NL30, and just wanted to be clear about it

    Hope this isn't too stupid.

    Cheers
  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: serious advice:
    May I ask a foolish Question,  Why change the habit of a life time I hear you say. When you guys are talking about "NL20"  or "NL30",  what value are you talking about here.  are you taking about tables with BB of 20p or 30p  OR  £20 or £30.  I am assuming the former but just wanted to check.  I see a lot of posts talking about, for example NL30, and just wanted to be clear about it Hope this isn't too stupid. Cheers
    Posted by JockBMW
    Assuming some1 sits with the maximum every time then that means what the table sitdown is... i.e NL30 = 15p/30 as max sitdown is £30 NL = No Limit I presume
  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: serious advice:
    May I ask a foolish Question,  Why change the habit of a life time I hear you say. When you guys are talking about "NL20"  or "NL30",  what value are you talking about here.  are you taking about tables with BB of 20p or 30p  OR  £20 or £30.  I am assuming the former but just wanted to check.  I see a lot of posts talking about, for example NL30, and just wanted to be clear about it Hope this isn't too stupid. Cheers
    Posted by JockBMW
    Not stupid at all.
    NL30 has a BB of 30p on this site.

    The slight problem when comparing with posts on other forums about levels is that generally the standard unit of currency is US$ as opposed to pounds sterling so Sky Poker levels are not quite the same as other sites.
  • Headup2Headup2 Member Posts: 40
    edited March 2010
    LOL @ MTTs being the hardest part of poker. Funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
  • Seagull158Seagull158 Member Posts: 1,100
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: serious advice:
    thanks for all the advice and comments guys, i know that mtt wins are gonna be few and far between but hopefully some cashes along the way and i can be successful at it, am thinking of playing the 8 o clock tournie tonight, gonna check the entry fee and hopefully i can enter and do ok. in the mean time may try the cash level dohhhh suggested
    Posted by webby234
    Play the £3 and £5 deepstacks. They are great fun, a chance to play some good poker over a decent period of time with a resonable chipstack, and you normally win between £20 and £100 if you cash I don't know if these are "proper" poker but they feel like it compared to the low BI donkfests..
  • KnackersYaKnackersYa Member Posts: 468
    edited March 2010
    In Response to Re: serious advice:
    thanks for all the advice and comments guys, i know that mtt wins are gonna be few and far between but hopefully some cashes along the way and i can be successful at it, am thinking of playing the 8 o clock tournie tonight, gonna check the entry fee and hopefully i can enter and do ok. in the mean time may try the cash level dohhhh suggested
    Posted by webby234

    Try the satellites mate. You are more than good enough to get in the top 20% of most fields.
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