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Most profound political comment ever?

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  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,565
    edited June 2020
    HENDRIK62 said:

    Cammykaze said:

    Tikay10 said:

    This is the problem with democracy. If the people in charge were good enough to make the best decision every time and not cave in to public demand then that would not be a democracy.

    Countries like Sweden do it better because they have better people/culture. We are horribly deluded and misinformed by propaganda in the uk e.g. if i scroll through my facebook feed every other post is a meme or some sjw posting something that is short on all the facts and often just plain incorrect and extraordinarily narrow minded.


    Had to look up "sjw".

    Social Justice Warrior. Ha, there are plenty of those.
    This has a bit of potential to go down like a led balloon and may get shot for this. :lol:

    This is about extreme feminists. Not the majority, say the top 1% of extreme feminists to be safe ;)




    tip for the next time you're going to denigrate a portion of the populace make the text in white so its easier to read........
    Is it either of these? -

    'DAD, YOU MUST CALL ME THEN!!!'

    'DID YOU JUST CULL ME A HEN!!!'

    Also, the multiple use of exclamation marks is insulting to all Tikays.
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    Enut said:

    HENDRIK62 said:

    Cammykaze said:

    Tikay10 said:

    This is the problem with democracy. If the people in charge were good enough to make the best decision every time and not cave in to public demand then that would not be a democracy.

    Countries like Sweden do it better because they have better people/culture. We are horribly deluded and misinformed by propaganda in the uk e.g. if i scroll through my facebook feed every other post is a meme or some sjw posting something that is short on all the facts and often just plain incorrect and extraordinarily narrow minded.


    Had to look up "sjw".

    Social Justice Warrior. Ha, there are plenty of those.
    This has a bit of potential to go down like a led balloon and may get shot for this. :lol:

    This is about extreme feminists. Not the majority, say the top 1% of extreme feminists to be safe ;)




    tip for the next time you're going to denigrate a portion of the populace make the text in white so its easier to read........
    Is it either of these? -

    'DAD, YOU MUST CALL ME THEN!!!'

    'DID YOU JUST CULL ME A HEN!!!'

    Also, the multiple use of exclamation marks is insulting to all Tikays.
    Guess it's open to interpretation on what the text is in the speech bubble

    Cammy
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    edited June 2020
    HENDRIK62 said:

    Cammykaze said:

    Tikay10 said:

    This is the problem with democracy. If the people in charge were good enough to make the best decision every time and not cave in to public demand then that would not be a democracy.

    Countries like Sweden do it better because they have better people/culture. We are horribly deluded and misinformed by propaganda in the uk e.g. if i scroll through my facebook feed every other post is a meme or some sjw posting something that is short on all the facts and often just plain incorrect and extraordinarily narrow minded.


    Had to look up "sjw".

    Social Justice Warrior. Ha, there are plenty of those.
    This has a bit of potential to go down like a led balloon and may get shot for this. :lol:

    This is about extreme feminists. Not the majority, say the top 1% of extreme feminists to be safe ;)




    tip for the next time you're going to denigrate a portion of the populace make the text in white so its easier to read........
    It was a risk however a bit of background on this picture first.

    It's a well known 'triggered' meme about feminists and ones on the very extreme end. I was not the creator of the meme and had sent this to a friend about 2 months ago and we had a good chuckle about it.

    For clarity,

    I am a massive supporter on equality for all humans. This was a little joke on the extremists of one particular branch.

    Any extremism is not a good thing.

    Discussion and debate with a bit of a giggle would be nice. I did acknowledge this post could be a little risqué. If it's offensive to you then I am sorry you seem to be offended.

    I do not know you however that would be my interpretation you are not happy with the post. This is the first interaction between us as well.

    If this is not the type of posts that are welcome on the forum by the admins then at least I will know where the line is.

    Humour is humour, you may find something I don't. I can always look the other way or quickly dismiss and move on with my day.

    Funniest thing is, years ago (even 5 or so ago) this would have got a laugh from most forum members. Even pro-feminists would be able to see a bit of humour in this perhaps?

    Understand things are tough out there and humour is never a bad thing in general and feel it's a premium commodity at the moment.

    Have a good week!

    Cammy
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,461
    Cammykaze said:


    madprof said:

    Could be worse....imagine being sent to Robin Barry Island and finding that @HAYSIE was the only jailer to talk to? :#

    Am I the only guy on the forum that would be happy to listen to Haysie IRL........



    .......... for 5 mins :lol:

    Sorry Haysie :neutral::)
    Used to it.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,461

    I would go to Barry Island with Haysie. I miss it that much.

    Arent Gavin and Stacey making a comeback?
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    HAYSIE said:

    Cammykaze said:


    madprof said:

    Could be worse....imagine being sent to Robin Barry Island and finding that @HAYSIE was the only jailer to talk to? :#

    Am I the only guy on the forum that would be happy to listen to Haysie IRL........



    .......... for 5 mins :lol:

    Sorry Haysie :neutral::)
    Used to it.
    I was joking of course Haysie.

    Maybe an hour or so :)

    To be serious for a minute, I have enjoyed reading your posts in the Rail and guess about 60% of the time I would disagree with your opinion or interpretations.

    Discussion and debating is healthy and expands minds. I have learned a lot from your and others Rail posts. Will continue to learn.......

    Cammy
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,461
    Cammykaze said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Cammykaze said:


    madprof said:

    Could be worse....imagine being sent to Robin Barry Island and finding that @HAYSIE was the only jailer to talk to? :#

    Am I the only guy on the forum that would be happy to listen to Haysie IRL........



    .......... for 5 mins :lol:

    Sorry Haysie :neutral::)
    Used to it.
    I was joking of course Haysie.

    Maybe an hour or so :)

    To be serious for a minute, I have enjoyed reading your posts in the Rail and guess about 60% of the time I would disagree with your opinion or interpretations.

    Discussion and debating is healthy and expands minds. I have learned a lot from your and others Rail posts. Will continue to learn.......

    Cammy
    Of course.
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,221
    Enut said:

    HENDRIK62 said:

    Cammykaze said:

    Tikay10 said:

    This is the problem with democracy. If the people in charge were good enough to make the best decision every time and not cave in to public demand then that would not be a democracy.

    Countries like Sweden do it better because they have better people/culture. We are horribly deluded and misinformed by propaganda in the uk e.g. if i scroll through my facebook feed every other post is a meme or some sjw posting something that is short on all the facts and often just plain incorrect and extraordinarily narrow minded.


    Had to look up "sjw".

    Social Justice Warrior. Ha, there are plenty of those.
    This has a bit of potential to go down like a led balloon and may get shot for this. :lol:

    This is about extreme feminists. Not the majority, say the top 1% of extreme feminists to be safe ;)




    tip for the next time you're going to denigrate a portion of the populace make the text in white so its easier to read........
    Is it either of these? -

    'DAD, YOU MUST CALL ME THEN!!!'

    'DID YOU JUST CULL ME A HEN!!!'

    Also, the multiple use of exclamation marks is insulting to all Tikays.
    @Enut

    'Did you just call me hen?' is the Scottish equivalent of 'did you just call me babe?'

    tbf I am being very sensitive @Cammykaze but the whole point of all these protests is stuff we take for granted and say without thinking has a meaning (as you say in your follow up a few years ago we would have all laughed).

    Having moved around a lot and seen how people say things in jest without realising the effect it has on the recipient has been really eye opening.

    I sat in a flat Hamburg with friends around the times of the Turkish problems there over 25 years ago. They complained about 'auslanders' (foreigners) then realised I was also a foreigner and they quickly pointed out that I was 'different'......the fact I still remember it is telling

    I also lived in London and was constantly refer to as jock etc and asked if we had televisions, why had I moved to the land of milk and honey etc

    Even going from Edinburgh to Glasgow where the humour is different

    As I have got older I am less likely now to just shrug and turn the other cheek, I am also a great believer in the Stephen Fry quote;

    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so **** what."

    So by that rationale just tell me to f%&k off :smiley:
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,461
    Tikay10 said:


    There was an interesting documentary about Mrs Thatcher & her rise to power on TV last night.

    It was so-so, but enlivened by one particular comment by Bernard Ingham, her Press Secretary for many years, & a true, gruff, blunt Yorkshireman.

    He said her greatest quality was that she did not want to be loved, & then followed it with....

    God save us from Prime Ministers who want to be loved


    And if you think back over recent PM's, & of course Mr Johnson, they were almost all guilty of that, making decisions that tried to appease rather than doing what was needed.

    If we can rise above the cheap shots - well she succeeded in not being loved - it's such a terrific comment. matters not whether we loved or loathed Mrs Thatcher, but it would be just great if we could find a politician who cared more about doing the right thing than being loved. And it matters not whether they are Labour, Tory, or anything else.
    We have recently had some good examples.

    Boris appears desperate to be loved.

    Although he didn't win an election, Jeremy Corbyn had a knack for not being loved.

    How could anyone love Nigel Farage.

    Others believe their own publicity, Jo Swinson renamed her party which became Jo Swinsons Liberal Democrats, on the side of a bus.
    She appeared on telly numerous times, warning the public that she would be the next PM.
    In the end she lost her seat, securing her place in history as Jo Who.

    The one thing that all the above have in common, is that they are unlikely to ever be accused of being loved.
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,565
    I think one of the biggest problems with how things are going at the moment is that we risk losing all humour for fear of offending someone. That's not too many steps from losing freedom of speech (IMO). To have a reasoned coherent debate you have to be able to at least sail very close to offending people, not least those you are debating with, after all you are taking a counter position to their beliefs.

    After years of putting my foot in it, I am now better at knowing which friends of mine can appreciate certain jokes as just jokes and those that would be offended, although it is very, very tempting to tell them to those that would be offended, just for a laugh!
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,565
    @HENDRIK62 I've just realised that my second quote I wrote as DID YOU JUST CULL ME A HEN, when I meant to type DID YOU JUST CALL ME A HEN. Now I'm unsure which one is better. Neither are as good as DID YOU JUST CALL ME HEN though.

  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    edited June 2020
    Enut said:

    I think one of the biggest problems with how things are going at the moment is that we risk losing all humour for fear of offending someone. That's not too many steps from losing freedom of speech (IMO). To have a reasoned coherent debate you have to be able to at least sail very close to offending people, not least those you are debating with, after all you are taking a counter position to their beliefs.

    After years of putting my foot in it, I am now better at knowing which friends of mine can appreciate certain jokes as just jokes and those that would be offended, although it is very, very tempting to tell them to those that would be offended, just for a laugh!

    I hear this Enut. Worse when drinking.....

    Don't drink nearly as much now as it was getting a little silly at times.

    Cammy
  • CammykazeCammykaze Member Posts: 1,397
    HENDRIK62 said:

    Enut said:

    HENDRIK62 said:

    Cammykaze said:

    Tikay10 said:

    This is the problem with democracy. If the people in charge were good enough to make the best decision every time and not cave in to public demand then that would not be a democracy.

    Countries like Sweden do it better because they have better people/culture. We are horribly deluded and misinformed by propaganda in the uk e.g. if i scroll through my facebook feed every other post is a meme or some sjw posting something that is short on all the facts and often just plain incorrect and extraordinarily narrow minded.


    Had to look up "sjw".

    Social Justice Warrior. Ha, there are plenty of those.
    This has a bit of potential to go down like a led balloon and may get shot for this. :lol:

    This is about extreme feminists. Not the majority, say the top 1% of extreme feminists to be safe ;)




    tip for the next time you're going to denigrate a portion of the populace make the text in white so its easier to read........
    Is it either of these? -

    'DAD, YOU MUST CALL ME THEN!!!'

    'DID YOU JUST CULL ME A HEN!!!'

    Also, the multiple use of exclamation marks is insulting to all Tikays.
    @Enut

    'Did you just call me hen?' is the Scottish equivalent of 'did you just call me babe?'

    tbf I am being very sensitive @Cammykaze but the whole point of all these protests is stuff we take for granted and say without thinking has a meaning (as you say in your follow up a few years ago we would have all laughed).

    Having moved around a lot and seen how people say things in jest without realising the effect it has on the recipient has been really eye opening.

    I sat in a flat Hamburg with friends around the times of the Turkish problems there over 25 years ago. They complained about 'auslanders' (foreigners) then realised I was also a foreigner and they quickly pointed out that I was 'different'......the fact I still remember it is telling

    I also lived in London and was constantly refer to as jock etc and asked if we had televisions, why had I moved to the land of milk and honey etc

    Even going from Edinburgh to Glasgow where the humour is different

    As I have got older I am less likely now to just shrug and turn the other cheek, I am also a great believer in the Stephen Fry quote;

    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so **** what."

    So by that rationale just tell me to f%&k off :smiley:
    HENDRIK62 said:

    Enut said:

    HENDRIK62 said:

    Cammykaze said:

    Tikay10 said:

    This is the problem with democracy. If the people in charge were good enough to make the best decision every time and not cave in to public demand then that would not be a democracy.

    Countries like Sweden do it better because they have better people/culture. We are horribly deluded and misinformed by propaganda in the uk e.g. if i scroll through my facebook feed every other post is a meme or some sjw posting something that is short on all the facts and often just plain incorrect and extraordinarily narrow minded.


    Had to look up "sjw".

    Social Justice Warrior. Ha, there are plenty of those.
    This has a bit of potential to go down like a led balloon and may get shot for this. :lol:

    This is about extreme feminists. Not the majority, say the top 1% of extreme feminists to be safe ;)




    tip for the next time you're going to denigrate a portion of the populace make the text in white so its easier to read........
    Is it either of these? -

    'DAD, YOU MUST CALL ME THEN!!!'

    'DID YOU JUST CULL ME A HEN!!!'

    Also, the multiple use of exclamation marks is insulting to all Tikays.
    @Enut

    'Did you just call me hen?' is the Scottish equivalent of 'did you just call me babe?'

    tbf I am being very sensitive @Cammykaze but the whole point of all these protests is stuff we take for granted and say without thinking has a meaning (as you say in your follow up a few years ago we would have all laughed).

    Having moved around a lot and seen how people say things in jest without realising the effect it has on the recipient has been really eye opening.

    I sat in a flat Hamburg with friends around the times of the Turkish problems there over 25 years ago. They complained about 'auslanders' (foreigners) then realised I was also a foreigner and they quickly pointed out that I was 'different'......the fact I still remember it is telling

    I also lived in London and was constantly refer to as jock etc and asked if we had televisions, why had I moved to the land of milk and honey etc

    Even going from Edinburgh to Glasgow where the humour is different

    As I have got older I am less likely now to just shrug and turn the other cheek, I am also a great believer in the Stephen Fry quote;

    “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so **** what."

    So by that rationale just tell me to f%&k off :smiley:
    Fan of Stephen Fry, very intellectual man.

    Good to hear the other side of things.

    Sister lives in Edinburgh and moved there about 6/7 years ago. The people are very different to people from Glasgow. She likes it up there and will likely stay there.

    Glasgow and Edinburgh from the banter boys :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkhtpYIRHAU
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