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Negligence, And Other Shortcomings Of The NHS.

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,852
    Phantom66 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    bbMike said:

    Ok Haysie, the first person to claim to be a victim wins the argument. I concede.

    You should probably just accept the thread is a bit of a car crash. Most of the nitpicking is trying to work out what your actual point or angle is. There was no mention of your surprise, or whether you agreed or disagreed with the article you copied and pasted in the original post. You didn’t gives your thoughts linking it to other wastage you think there is, just later on start talking about expensive creams.

    You can be surprised at a headline or a number, but when set against other numbers you can make more sense of what you’re looking at. The ‘Our Year In Numbers’ information you posted gave a great rundown as to why you shouldn’t be so surprised, and gave a clue as to how the original headline was misleading.

    If you can’t understand why the thread has gone the way it has, I’m not going to explain it to you.

    I am still surprised by the number of cases that they regularly settle.

    I am particularly surprised by the value of outstanding claims.

    Unless they dont plan on settling the outstanding claims in the next 50 years, then the current annual figure will shoot up at some point very soon.

    Most of the stuff I have mentioned wouldnt be tolerated by the private sector.
    So are you in favour of NHS privatisation then @HAYSIE ?
    Even someone with my idiotic point of view would think that much of the below could be addressed quite easily.


    Every year, close to £1.3 billion is defrauded from the NHS. It is a shocking attack on an organisation that needs every penny for patient care. What may surprise those who don’t know about the scale of fraud against the health service is how much of that money is stolen by insiders....

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/nhs-fraud-squad-catching-medical-insiders-stealing-13-billion/


    Drug wastage is costing the NHS millions

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13042794


    Colluding drug firms 'cost the NHS millions of pounds'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48377232

    Missed hospital appointments in Kent is costing the NHS £13m
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00mjynp

    'Too many children' have tonsils removed unnecessarily

    Based on these findings, the researchers estimate that 32,500 of the 37,000 child tonsillectomies in 2016-2017 in the UK were unnecessary, costing the NHS £36.9m.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46095462

    Shropshire baby deaths: NHS trust was paid £1m for good care

    An interim report into what has become the largest inquiry into maternity care in the history of the NHS, leaked last month, found a toxic culture had contributed to the avoidable deaths of babies and mothers as well as dozens of instances of significant harm.

    An NHS trust at the centre of England's largest inquiry into baby deaths was paid almost £1m for providing good maternity care, the BBC has learned.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-50877640

    'Lessons learned' over £24m Altrincham health hub failings
    Health bosses have planned an overhaul of leadership following to "catastrophic" failings at a £24m health hub in Greater Manchester.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-48450554


    Missed GP appointments 'cost NHS England £216m'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46732626


    Dental patients' A&E visits 'cost NHS up to £18m a year'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38542033


    Ms Frith said the £1.25bn was probably on the conservative side - previous estimates by experts have put it even higher.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41824180


    NHS 'wasting millions on supplies'
    To give a couple of examples:

    A few hospital trusts were paying £9.60 for 100 clinical waste bags while others were paying £18.
    And while one paid just 34p per face mask, a few were prepared to shell out £1.22 each.
    Perhaps most worryingly, one trust was paying just over £20 for a pack of A4 paper while another was getting a deal at £4.49.
    With the NHS spending of about £100bn a year, savings can make a difference - especially if they appear easy to achieve just by getting smarter with procurement.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28427295

    Hospital bed-blocking 'costs' NHS England £900m a year
    Lord Carter identified the issue in a wider look at how £5bn could be saved by 2020.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35481849

    Fraud and errors 'costing NHS £7bn a year'
    Fraud is costing the NHS £5bn a year, with a further £2bn lost to errors, the former head of its anti-fraud section, Jim Gee, has suggested.

    The amount lost to fraud alone could pay for nearly 250,000 new nurses, according to a report he co-authored that has been seen by Panorama.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-26711455/fraud-and-errors-costing-nhs-7bn-a-year
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,852
    Phantom66 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    bbMike said:

    Ok Haysie, the first person to claim to be a victim wins the argument. I concede.

    You should probably just accept the thread is a bit of a car crash. Most of the nitpicking is trying to work out what your actual point or angle is. There was no mention of your surprise, or whether you agreed or disagreed with the article you copied and pasted in the original post. You didn’t gives your thoughts linking it to other wastage you think there is, just later on start talking about expensive creams.

    You can be surprised at a headline or a number, but when set against other numbers you can make more sense of what you’re looking at. The ‘Our Year In Numbers’ information you posted gave a great rundown as to why you shouldn’t be so surprised, and gave a clue as to how the original headline was misleading.

    If you can’t understand why the thread has gone the way it has, I’m not going to explain it to you.

    I am still surprised by the number of cases that they regularly settle.

    I am particularly surprised by the value of outstanding claims.

    Unless they dont plan on settling the outstanding claims in the next 50 years, then the current annual figure will shoot up at some point very soon.

    Most of the stuff I have mentioned wouldnt be tolerated by the private sector.
    So are you in favour of NHS privatisation then @HAYSIE ?
    How many other CV conmen are still out there? Questions raised after former builder who used fake CVs to become an NHS boss and make £1million (which a judge says he can keep because he earned it)


    Jon Andrewes, 67, told 'staggering lies' on his CVs to become an NHS boss. Considering how easily he fooled his bosses, the question is: How many other CV conmen are still out there?
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,852
    HAYSIE said:

    Phantom66 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    bbMike said:

    Ok Haysie, the first person to claim to be a victim wins the argument. I concede.

    You should probably just accept the thread is a bit of a car crash. Most of the nitpicking is trying to work out what your actual point or angle is. There was no mention of your surprise, or whether you agreed or disagreed with the article you copied and pasted in the original post. You didn’t gives your thoughts linking it to other wastage you think there is, just later on start talking about expensive creams.

    You can be surprised at a headline or a number, but when set against other numbers you can make more sense of what you’re looking at. The ‘Our Year In Numbers’ information you posted gave a great rundown as to why you shouldn’t be so surprised, and gave a clue as to how the original headline was misleading.

    If you can’t understand why the thread has gone the way it has, I’m not going to explain it to you.

    I am still surprised by the number of cases that they regularly settle.

    I am particularly surprised by the value of outstanding claims.

    Unless they dont plan on settling the outstanding claims in the next 50 years, then the current annual figure will shoot up at some point very soon.

    Most of the stuff I have mentioned wouldnt be tolerated by the private sector.
    So are you in favour of NHS privatisation then @HAYSIE ?
    Even someone with my idiotic point of view would think that much of the below could be addressed quite easily.


    Every year, close to £1.3 billion is defrauded from the NHS. It is a shocking attack on an organisation that needs every penny for patient care. What may surprise those who don’t know about the scale of fraud against the health service is how much of that money is stolen by insiders....

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/nhs-fraud-squad-catching-medical-insiders-stealing-13-billion/


    Drug wastage is costing the NHS millions

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13042794


    Colluding drug firms 'cost the NHS millions of pounds'
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48377232

    Missed hospital appointments in Kent is costing the NHS £13m
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00mjynp

    'Too many children' have tonsils removed unnecessarily

    Based on these findings, the researchers estimate that 32,500 of the 37,000 child tonsillectomies in 2016-2017 in the UK were unnecessary, costing the NHS £36.9m.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46095462

    Shropshire baby deaths: NHS trust was paid £1m for good care

    An interim report into what has become the largest inquiry into maternity care in the history of the NHS, leaked last month, found a toxic culture had contributed to the avoidable deaths of babies and mothers as well as dozens of instances of significant harm.

    An NHS trust at the centre of England's largest inquiry into baby deaths was paid almost £1m for providing good maternity care, the BBC has learned.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-50877640

    'Lessons learned' over £24m Altrincham health hub failings
    Health bosses have planned an overhaul of leadership following to "catastrophic" failings at a £24m health hub in Greater Manchester.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-48450554


    Missed GP appointments 'cost NHS England £216m'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46732626


    Dental patients' A&E visits 'cost NHS up to £18m a year'

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38542033


    Ms Frith said the £1.25bn was probably on the conservative side - previous estimates by experts have put it even higher.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41824180


    NHS 'wasting millions on supplies'
    To give a couple of examples:

    A few hospital trusts were paying £9.60 for 100 clinical waste bags while others were paying £18.
    And while one paid just 34p per face mask, a few were prepared to shell out £1.22 each.
    Perhaps most worryingly, one trust was paying just over £20 for a pack of A4 paper while another was getting a deal at £4.49.
    With the NHS spending of about £100bn a year, savings can make a difference - especially if they appear easy to achieve just by getting smarter with procurement.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28427295

    Hospital bed-blocking 'costs' NHS England £900m a year
    Lord Carter identified the issue in a wider look at how £5bn could be saved by 2020.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35481849

    Fraud and errors 'costing NHS £7bn a year'
    Fraud is costing the NHS £5bn a year, with a further £2bn lost to errors, the former head of its anti-fraud section, Jim Gee, has suggested.

    The amount lost to fraud alone could pay for nearly 250,000 new nurses, according to a report he co-authored that has been seen by Panorama.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-26711455/fraud-and-errors-costing-nhs-7bn-a-year
    NHS chiefs’ plea: we need more cash for ‘winter risk’
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/nhs-chiefs-plea-we-need-more-cash-for-winter-risk/ar-BB180ujU?ocid=msedgdhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,852
    edited August 2020
    HAYSIE said:

    Phantom66 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    bbMike said:

    Ok Haysie, the first person to claim to be a victim wins the argument. I concede.

    You should probably just accept the thread is a bit of a car crash. Most of the nitpicking is trying to work out what your actual point or angle is. There was no mention of your surprise, or whether you agreed or disagreed with the article you copied and pasted in the original post. You didn’t gives your thoughts linking it to other wastage you think there is, just later on start talking about expensive creams.

    You can be surprised at a headline or a number, but when set against other numbers you can make more sense of what you’re looking at. The ‘Our Year In Numbers’ information you posted gave a great rundown as to why you shouldn’t be so surprised, and gave a clue as to how the original headline was misleading.

    If you can’t understand why the thread has gone the way it has, I’m not going to explain it to you.

    I am still surprised by the number of cases that they regularly settle.

    I am particularly surprised by the value of outstanding claims.

    Unless they dont plan on settling the outstanding claims in the next 50 years, then the current annual figure will shoot up at some point very soon.

    Most of the stuff I have mentioned wouldnt be tolerated by the private sector.
    So are you in favour of NHS privatisation then @HAYSIE ?
    How many other CV conmen are still out there? Questions raised after former builder who used fake CVs to become an NHS boss and make £1million (which a judge says he can keep because he earned it)


    Jon Andrewes, 67, told 'staggering lies' on his CVs to become an NHS boss. Considering how easily he fooled his bosses, the question is: How many other CV conmen are still out there?
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    Police charge 'fake psychiatrist' who worked for NHS for 22 years despite having no qualifications' with 13 fraud offences


    Zholia Alemi, 57, formerly from High Harrington, who worked for the NHS for 22 years despite allegedly not having any qualifications, has been charged with 13 fraud offences.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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    NHS managers told care homes to put blanket 'do not resuscitate' orders on ALL residents at height of Covid crisis, report shows
    Professor Alison Leary MBE authored the report on DNR orders in care homes
    One in 10 care home staff were told to change DNR orders for their residents
    Professor Leary is now calling for an inquiry to be held over the practice



    Professor Alison Leary MBE (pictured) wrote the report which found that one in 10 care home staff were told to change resuscitation orders for patients, in some cases without consulting family members first

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8656957/NHS-told-care-homes-not-resuscitate-orders-residents-height-Covid-crisis.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,852
    edited April 2023
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,852
    'Mafia code of silence' that gags the NHS whistleblowers: Care boss warns employees are discouraged from exposing neglect
    Even senior surgeons fear drawing attention to dangers to patients
    CQC chairman David Prior warns of 'chilling' culture in NHS hospitals
    Medics who wish to expose failing hospitals have to be 'very, very brave'
    Says senior doctors' career prospects were ruined after they spoke out



    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2472671/Mafia-code-silence-gags-NHS-whistleblowers.html
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