to be fair its not unusual to request identification on the majority of sites these days (excluding sky) there are sites which are reputable and offer better rkback deals than sky do (presently) however you have to balance this with the fact these sites dont generally attract as many recreational players and are often table after table full of grinders playing tight abc poker. swings and roundabouts really Posted by barnsie
Correct........but in this case, the Player never Deposited any money on the Site! (Thank God).
to be fair its not unusual to request identification on the majority of sites these days (excluding sky) there are sites which are reputable and offer better rkback deals than sky do (presently) however you have to balance this with the fact these sites dont generally attract as many recreational players and are often table after table full of grinders playing tight abc poker. swings and roundabouts really Posted by barnsie
Including sky, they asked me to photocopy both sides of my bank card and send it into them, as well as some other details
When players add funds to their gaming account ***Cruise covers any commissions charged by the payment system.
During a withdrawal of funds from the gambling portal to third-party payments systems, a 10% house fee will be taken from the player's net winnings. There is no house fee on winnings from casino games that do not offer equal odds. Players can gamble for a long time on equal odds casino games and rake free poker, or make sports bets without any house fee. The house fee will only be charged on a withdrawal of net winnings.
During a withdrawal of funds, first the sum of the deposit is returned, and then the winnings, from which a house fee will be taken.
Example: a player makes a €100 deposit, wins €50 and then requests a withdrawal of €120. Under this scenario, the net winnings exceed the deposit by €20, i.e. a 10% house fee equals €2.
sorry i misread post ok fair to say before you deposited is a bit weird, however would have to be sent in the end anyway if anybody is in doubt to the validity of any of these sites there are a couple of sites that "rate" the sites on secureness e.t.cand as tikay says if it looks to good to be true it probably is Posted by barnsie
here is what the site says about it.... When players add funds to their gaming account ***Cruise covers any commissions charged by the payment system. During a withdrawal of funds from the gambling portal to third-party payments systems, a 10% house fee will be taken from the player's net winnings. There is no house fee on winnings from casino games that do not offer equal odds. Players can gamble for a long time on equal odds casino games and rake free poker, or make sports bets without any house fee. The house fee will only be charged on a withdrawal of net winnings. During a withdrawal of funds, first the sum of the deposit is returned, and then the winnings, from which a house fee will be taken. Example: a player makes a €100 deposit, wins €50 and then requests a withdrawal of €120. Under this scenario, the net winnings exceed the deposit by €20, i.e. a 10% house fee equals €2. confused.com Posted by crow01
So.......................it is NOT Rake-Free Poker!
In Response to Re: RAKE FREE POKER : yes and no.... i explained this on the first post you dont pay rake at the table, you pay a fee upon withdrawel either way they are still making the money.... Posted by crow01
It does not matter WHAT you call it - Rake, "Commission" (lol!), or "skim". It comes to the same thing.
You cannot get something for nothing in many things, & deffo not in Online poker. Most especially on a poker site "regulated" in Belize, or Mauritius.
Our internet gambling portal is licensed by the government of the Netherland Antilles. ***Cruise uses software developed by Gamesys N.V. in cooperation with an international assortment of companies. In conjunction with the hardware random number generator, our online casino uses unique Randomness Control technology based on the SHA-256 algorithm (the Secure Hsh Algorithm family).
netherland antilles and an assortment of companies lol, i wouldnt trust them with my piggy bank.....
i have an account with probably 90% of the major poker rooms, and it is amazing how much free money i have had/made through bonuses
the only ones to look out for are the "instant match" bonus', that you normaly need to earn a million points before a dollar of the bonus is released
In Response to Re: RAKE FREE POKER : No, no, no. No. No no. No. It's not negative, it's fact, based on experience. As recently as this year. And they will - can, & have - steal your deposits. You need to bear in mind something which I think you may have not taken into account. Most of the Sites which offer these unsustainable carrots are "regulated" in places like Belize, (where?) Mauritius, Antigua, & other such places where are completely beyond any reasonable legal jurisdiction. You have no legal redress, their offers are worthless, & then can scam you at will. And DO. But thry keep popping up, & gullible souls keep falling for it. It's very sad, but all I can do is warn people. Stick to reputable sites - & I'm not just saying Sky Poker, there are many. They do not offer unsustainable offers because it makes no sense, & is not do-able. Much of Internet Poker is un-regulated. I hope everybody understands that, but if they want to go the route you are suggesting, well gg them. Posted by Tikay10
nooooo i understand how bad some sites are, i was basically just attacking the phrase 'if its too good to be true then it probably is' and not just in the poker context... i think its better to look into something that sounds good but be careful because it COULD be bad... please please please could you do a blog on poker scams etc... anything like that you have experienced, i really enjoy reading your blogs.
In Response to Re: RAKE FREE POKER : nooooo i understand how bad some sites are, i was basically just attacking the phrase 'if its too good to be true then it probably is' and not just in the poker context... i think its better to look into something that sounds good but be careful because it COULD be bad... please please please could you do a blog on poker scams etc... anything like that you have experienced, i really enjoy reading your blogs. Posted by BlackFish3
I will, though it seems few people realise how bad, or seriously "sharp", these unregulated sites are, especially when folks only see $$ signs instead of common-sense.
Wow i don't beleive that this question generated debate. I assumed everybody would just not this is not ronseal - (Doesn't do what it says on the tin)
This is not a good thing lol - as TK says the only type of site that could be calssed as "Rake Free" would be if the site charged No Fees - Anywhere - Ever.
Like i say if you win big in any tournies etc you personally are paying the rake on the WHOLE first prizr rather than your contribution to it.
Wow i don't beleive that this question generated debate. I assumed everybody would just not this is not ronseal - (Doesn't do what it says on the tin) This is not a good thing lol - as TK says the only type of site that could be calssed as "Rake Free" would be if the site charged No Fees - Anywhere - Ever. Like i say if you win big in any tournies etc you personally are paying the rake on the WHOLE first prizr rather than your contribution to it. NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH Posted by ACESOVER8s
Sanity, at last!
It seems that people try to justify the mickey-mouse sites, well, good luck to them. As some of you know, I have bitter personal experience of this.
I'm not even saying "stick to Sky Poker", I'm saying stick to names you can trust, on Sites which are properly regulated, within traditional legal juridstictions.
In Response to Re: RAKE FREE POKER : I've no idea, they currently do "Cash for Points", which, many might say, amounts to the same thing. Posted by Tikay10
i see your point, there are a lot of sites that do offer rakeback deals with the big poker rooms though..... have you ever had any experience with these because 30% rakeback sounds pretty good to me.... especialy if your grinding all day long.... or is this just another scam??? not that i would revert to another site of course....
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When players add funds to their gaming account ***Cruise covers any commissions charged by the payment system.
During a withdrawal of funds from the gambling portal to third-party payments systems, a 10% house fee will be taken from the player's net winnings. There is no house fee on winnings from casino games that do not offer equal odds. Players can gamble for a long time on equal odds casino games and rake free poker, or make sports bets without any house fee. The house fee will only be charged on a withdrawal of net winnings.
During a withdrawal of funds, first the sum of the deposit is returned, and then the winnings, from which a house fee will be taken.
Example: a player makes a €100 deposit, wins €50 and then requests a withdrawal of €120. Under this scenario, the net winnings exceed the deposit by €20, i.e. a 10% house fee equals €2.
confused.com
if anybody is in doubt to the validity of any of these sites there are a couple of sites that "rate" the sites on secureness e.t.c
and as tikay says if it looks to good to be true it probably is
you dont pay rake at the table, you pay a fee upon withdrawel
either way they are still making the money....
You cannot get something for nothing in many things, & deffo not in Online poker. Most especially on a poker site "regulated" in Belize, or Mauritius.
netherland antilles and an assortment of companies lol, i wouldnt trust them with my piggy bank.....
i have an account with probably 90% of the major poker rooms, and it is amazing how much free money i have had/made through bonuses
the only ones to look out for are the "instant match" bonus', that you normaly need to earn a million points before a dollar of the bonus is released
but there is a lot of free money out there.....
caveat emptor
"Rake-Free Poker" by definition, means rake (or "commission") is not charged on what are known as "raked hands".
This is not a good thing lol - as TK says the only type of site that could be calssed as "Rake Free" would be if the site charged No Fees - Anywhere - Ever.
Like i say if you win big in any tournies etc you personally are paying the rake on the WHOLE first prizr rather than your contribution to it.
NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH
It seems that people try to justify the mickey-mouse sites, well, good luck to them. As some of you know, I have bitter personal experience of this.
I'm not even saying "stick to Sky Poker", I'm saying stick to names you can trust, on Sites which are properly regulated, within traditional legal juridstictions.
have you ever had any experience with these because 30% rakeback sounds pretty good to me....
especialy if your grinding all day long....
or is this just another scam???
not that i would revert to another site of course....